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Updated: May 12, 2010
Hi..my name is Robert James Bartlett.
I worked at Irving Pulp And Paper since march 11 of 1987. In 2002 i had my hand pulled into a dullal press where we wrapp the paper.I crushed my hand and nervers and all 5 tindents. I've had 3 surgery's so far. I'm 85% loss of use of my arm.Back in 2008 i went to the cleveland clinic in cleveland ohio to see a dr staton Hicks.He put a stimulater in my chest to help with the two nerves that were crushs. Then Jan of 2009 i went back down to do anothe trial for the thrird nerve and whscc sent me down 2 times to see if it was going to work.it worked good enough for me to come down off my pills and patches I've been taking.Two weeks later i get a letter in the mail from work safe N.B.saying they were not going to cover me on that second surgery. But what i don't understand is why did they send myself and my wife down twice to see this doctor.Two weeks later i got a letter in the mail saying that work safe was not going to pay for this surgery that was coming up. The board made a decition that they were not going to pay for this surgery. I got my workers advocate and still never won my case. SO I neep help right away .I\'ve been living with chronic pain for almost 8 years.I got no life. They forced me on disability and now i can't go back to work. I need help RIGHT NOW...THANKS
Jamie Bartlett
jbartlett@nb.sympatico.ca
Updated: May 11, 2010
WSIB lied and said to my workers rep that they contacted my doctor twice for medical information. In order to contact my doctor for that they need written permission from me, which I was never asked for by them, no forms were ever sent to me and my doctor is willing to state in writing she was never contacted. Now I am being forced to go 2 hours from home for a mental health assessment because I have depression from the chronic pain I live with daily and my workers rep says if I don\'t go I will loose my benefits. How can they get away with lying. I rec\'d a 35% NEL award for my physical injury and even their medical doctors have told them I am not capable of doing LMR yet they continue to pressure me and cause havoc in my life to get me off my benefits. Anyone living with chronic pain knows what depression is as a result, some days I can\'t even dress myself..........WHAT IS WRONG WITH WSIB AND HOW THEY TREAT INJURED WORKERS!
Updated: March 25, 2010
Hi, I fell at work in 2007,the result was a fractured vertebrae,since then i have had a fusion surgery which, if anything made me worse.I am in constant pain,I am heavily medicated,and have very strict limitations. I went for an LMR program,and shortly after becoming involved with that I was told that maybe I should look into Canada Pension Disability (I guess they felt that I am too severe for retraining). I went for my NEL assessment a few months ago, finally i get the result of that appointment (which took about 5 minutes,and had no focus on any emotional damage) so,I get a 22% impairment rate, but at the same time I am too injured to get retrained, this is all very frustrating, some days I can't even tie my own shoes, or get out of bed for that matter, enough with my pitty party. I am wondering if someone can help me, give me some direction as to how I can appeal this NEL decision,I can not afford a lawyer, but I really feel I am getting the "shaft" here, I worked and payed in to WSIB my whole life, now I would just like to be treated fair, they will not pay for snow removal either, I am sorry to complain so much, any advice would be greatly appreciated,thanks.
name : Ken
Updated: March 24, 2010
Unfortunately,if the WSIB has allowed the appeal once the employer serves notice that they object to a decision they can wait years before proceeding to the next step. Not only that; the following quote from the Appeals System Practice and Procedures document also indicates that adherence to any time limits for appeals are ultimately at the discretion of the WSIB:
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Reconsidering Decisions after Expiry of Time Limits
The WSIB has the authority under Section 121 of the WSIA to reconsider any decision “at any time if it considers it advisable to do so”. This contemplates decisions being changed by the WSIB through reconsideration after the expiry of the statutory appeal period.
Authority to Grant Extensions
If reconsideration is not possible and the case has been brought forward for review after the expiry of the statutory time limit, the WSIB has the authority to extend the time limit in appropriate cases.
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This is from a new version which can be found at:
http://www.wsib.on.ca/wsib/wsibsite.nsf/public/ConsultationAppealsSystemDocument
http://www.wsib.on.ca/wsib/wsibsite.nsf/public/ConsultationAppealsSystemDocument Is it just me or does this seem like just another example of a condition that initially seems to be equally applicable to both injured workers and employers, but in practice, gives the employer yet another unfair advantage? Please note the section that deals with the time limits for finding representation and the options available if you cannot do so within the specified time. Anyone care to comment on how often the Board may be moved to grant time limit extensions to a worker, that would allow for more time to seek adequate representation? Make no mistake, now more than ever, while Ontario seems to enjoy some of the most comprehensive and thorough WCB legislation; in actual fact, an injured worker\'s ability to argue for and achieve the protections and benefits set out in that legislation has been steadily eroded. At the same time, the protection from the consequences of work related injuries and disablements, as well as the immunity from litigation offered to employers by the WSI Act, has never been stronger. Caveat emptor AND non illegitimi carborundum!
http://www.wsib.on.ca/wsib/wsibsite.nsf/public/ConsultationAppealsSystemDocument Is it just me or does this seem like just another example of a condition that initially seems to be equally applicable to both injured workers and employers, but in practice, gives the employer yet another unfair advantage? Please note the section that deals with the time limits for finding representation and the options available if you cannot do so within the specified time. Anyone care to comment on how often the Board may be moved to grant time limit extensions to a worker, that would allow for more time to seek adequate representation? Make no mistake, now more than ever, while Ontario seems to enjoy some of the most comprehensive and thorough WCB legislation; in actual fact, an injured worker\'s ability to argue for and achieve the protections and benefits set out in that legislation has been steadily eroded. At the same time, the protection from the consequences of work related injuries and disablements, as well as the immunity from litigation offered to employers by the WSI Act, has never been stronger. Caveat emptor AND non illegitimi carborundum!
Updated: March 23, 2010
Can someone please help answer this question for me. WSIB has approved my LOE until age 65 due to a very serious injury I sustained. My employer has disagreed with the WSIB and has met the deadline to appeal this decision within the six month time frame. However, how long does the employer now have to proceed with the next phase of the appeal. I realize they now can have access to my entire file and may decide not to proceed if the medical is heavily weighed in my favour. Wishful thinking I guess but I am also aware that the WSIB does not come to these decisions lightly and without long and hard scrutinizing of the medical evidence. Nevertheless, how long can an employer drag this next phase of appeal?? Is there a time line for this next step too or can they drag it on for years?? Please help.
Updated: March 23, 2010
Response to March 22 entry regarding LOE calculations. While the WSIB will look at the previous employment history of your partner when calculating a LOE they will also do the following if the earning periods are broken due to unrelated circumstances: If a worker has a wage loss upon completion of a LMR plan, the LOE benefit is based on the actual earnings of the worker in the SEB-identified job or
most recent wage information for the SEB earnings identified in the LMR assessment, if the worker is not working or is working in the SEB but is under-employed. Hope this helps.
name : Sound Advice
Updated: March 22, 2010
Having a documented, medically supported injury, that you have to continually defend, using, the correct \'terminology', makes an injured party feel like they are being punnished for speaking up and seeking insurance to protect them. I thought that insurance was just that, to protect a worker, not to give them continual grief. Early and safe return to work, includes an injured worker having to deal with minimal stress. How can they recover, if always put under a microscope and crushed with pressure. Furthermore, once you have been approved, why are WSIB always looking for loop holes to discredit you. Don\'t they realize the impact that they have on an 'early safe return to work'. It is all about money. Nobody at WSIB looks at the actual person, that is injured. Sad.
Updated: March 22, 2010
I am hoping someone can answer this question...perhaps not. My partner's LOE is going to be reviewed. The initial LOE was based on the prior 4 weeks of his employment. He went through the LMR plan , and his LOE was adjusted accordingly. His accident happened in 2007. He was employed as a AZ gravel hauler, but only in the position for 11 weeks (first job driving). WSIB is now asking for his gross income for the 12 months prior to the accident. He worked for 18 weeks for a drywall company, then was unemployed for 3 months, went to school for AZ for a month and a half, then started at his accident employer. Will they take his total gross income and divide that by 12 months, even with the break in employment? I\'ve read the policy section about employment patterns and breaks in employment, but it is pretty confusing and doesn\'t really give reference to when the person is not working. Any thoughts would be appreciated.
Thanks
Updated: March 17, 2010
I have called the Fair Practices Commission and the Ontario Ombudsman, who has had hundreds of complaints about the WSIB. Until the problems are exposed to the media you aren\'t going to get any results. Until they start reporting about some Canadian serious matters instead of someone stubbing their toe on a curb the Injured Canadain Citizens who made it possible for Governmennt officials to spend the taxpayers money,which we all have contributed to, are definatly not going to do anything and again the injured person who is or is not reemployable will be swept aside and treated like a second class citizen or worse!
March 16, 2010
The Fair Practices Commission has had some success in holding WSIB to treating claimants equally.If you believe that others have been treated better than you in regards to a common situation, you may have some success with a complaint.
Check out their website and see if any of it applies to your situation.
http://www.fairpractices.on.ca/
March 15, 2010
It has cost me over $1500 fighting the WSIB. After winning the case partially and getting into the LMR program have recently discovered with WSIB and their affiliates there are still certain rules for some people and other rules for others. This is unfair parctices against the Canadain people that have worked hard all thier lives and been injured on the job, only to be be treated as second class citizens!People receiving welfare get treated better!My advice to you is to contact W5 and have them investigate WSIB and thier affiliates as to thier practices. Since the politians of this country pass the buck and do nothing. Until this is brought out in the media to the country nothing will be done about it!Would like to remain anonymous
due to repercusions from WSIB
March 15, 2010
They are paid by the same master and they serve the same master they are put there to confuse and make you think they will help you. The one I had in BC wanted me to go to a meeting with the Wcb, and do a demonstration of what I did with drywall and other things in my trade. She stated she could not represent me at this meeting or be a witness for me, but she would be there for moral support turns out this so called meeting is listed in the Rehabilitation claims manual and apparently its set up to deny you its rigged according to my buddy Josh who can quote it chapter and verse. They took evidence that would have help him in one of his appeals, and held onto it for two years then gave it back to him and said they could not help him. So why do I think they cannot be trusted experience that’s why. I cannot speak for ONT. butI doubt they are any different.Good luck
name : drywallrocker
March 11, 2010
hello, I was injured in 2001. In 2004 I was terminated from my job by my employer. I have been trying to get my termination and severence from the employer who keeps telling me I am not eligible. I have tried my union also but they are not helping much. Am I entitled to termination and severence as the law has changed for workers injured on wsib and if so what should I do. I don't want to give up, I earned those years. I also don't want to wait too long and lose it to some type of time limit either.
March 10, 2010
Thanks for the heads-up on th WSIB/LABOUR BOARD conection. If indeed what you say is true-how come they sound so anti comp.
March 9, 2010
Do not waste your time with workers advisers they are in league with the WCB they will keep you in the appeal process and do nothing.If you can afford it get a lawyer.Or at the very least get a good advocate in your area.
name : drywallrocker
March 8, 2010
I worked 20 years in a mine. One day after getting to surface, I became covered with hives and found it found it hard to breath. I spent a week in hospital and I was told I had become allergic to something at work. For the next 9 months the mine gave me a crappy job to do until the doctors found out what I was allergic to. My new occupation at the mine was a surface cleaner and odd job man- I bit the bullet and did what I was told. This new job however, allowed me to take vacation whenever I liked, sometimes a phone call was all I gave for a week off. Anyways eventually the mine and wsib sent me to a big city hospital to get patch tested with stuff from the mine. The test concluded my injury was occupation related. I was told I could never go underground again. I called the mine and asked for a couple of days off so the hospital report could get to them. I didn’t want to tell them myself. Four days later when the test results got to the mine and wsib, I went back to work. However , I was fired at the door-for not filling out a holiday request form. I went home and called my wsib adjudicator she told me they where right and I was wrong-she told me I would get a small NEL award and advised me to go get EI.
I went to the workers advisers and i managed to get a mediation meeting at the mine with a wsib rep-my workers adviser rep and a big lawyer to rep the mine- My supervisor or anyone from the mine was not there! After we debated there was no doubt about it- I had been buggered by the mine. However, i lost the appeal, wsib cited the employer did no wrong blah blah blah. So my worker advisory rep requested an appeal which should be heard in about a year or so....What can I do? Or better still-What can I expect?
March 8, 2010
I was hurt 5 years ago. WSIB's doctor assessed me with having only 5% ROM in my back. I live in pain on a daily basis. My employer and WSIB determined I could not return to work. D/t the pain I suffer from depression and anxiety and at WSIB's request been seeing a psychiatrist for 3 years. They are now requesting another review for my suitability for LMR. I'm at the point I'm so fed up that even though I can't sit stand or walk for more then 15-30 minutes at a time just to say OK send me back to school. I was a nurse and when I did the LMR assessment last time I was deemed suitable for jobs like head waitress, or jail guard, etc........not physically possible. Do I not have a choice in what I return to school for? If I return to school I want to pursue a career. Are there any restrictions in what I choose or where I attend school? Why don't they discuss anything, why don't they provide detailed information. I give up! Anyone with answers please contact me.
thx
hockeysnapshot@gmail.com
March 3, 2010
Response to February 25th:
Reading Tribunal decisions from cases with similar issues can help in developing an effective argument; however, in Ontario at least, Tribunal decisions no longer set precedent. Appellate officers are free to rule as they please, regardless of past decisions. Two cases that appear to be quite similar can, unfortunately, have drastically different results.
March 1, 2010
In response to your entry on Feb 22. You don't owe your employer anything. You were retrained to continue to be active in the workforce and should not feel bad. Having said this you must return to work if your doctors are advising you to do so and if you are physically able. If there is no medical to substantiate you being off work then the WSIB will cut you off and remove your benefits accordingly. While you have a good relationship with your CA right now their allegiance is to the WSIB not you. They don't care how your relationship is between you and your employer. Their main concern is to get you back to active employment ASAP. Take it for what it's worth.
name : Sound Advice
March 1, 2010
Response to Feb. 17 entry. A NEL award does not necessarily need to be conducted in person. If there is sufficient medical evidence/documentation in your file then a NEL can be genereated based on that without having to be seen. Your NEL roster dr. probably had enough documentation sent to her/him from the WSIB and just needed a little more info from you for them to complete your NEL assessment.
Good Luck.
name : Sound advice
February 25, 2010
My advice to all of you regardless of your province is to do your own homework. Each provincial compensation board must post tribunal decisions online under the freedom of information act. Obviously worker names are omitted but the particulars of each case are there. Check out this site, select your province on the left and then enter key words or phrases into the text area which match your situation/condition and then read. This will help you all prepare for an appeal and understand how your respected comp boards work. Remember that these precedents are used in all decision and may help you. The site is: http://www.canlii.org/en/on/onwsiat/index.html
Also contact your provincial office of the worker advisor (Ontario site) www.owa.gov.on.ca
They are free and can lead you in the right direction. However, if you belong to a union they can not assist you. Good luck
Also contact your provincial office of the worker advisor (Ontario site) www.owa.gov.on.ca
They are free and can lead you in the right direction. However, if you belong to a union they can not assist you. Good luck
February 25, 2010
I've heard good things about represenatation from a Windsor, Ont. Company by the name of Durate and Lesperance Professional Co. I hear that this company's main job, once signed on, is to act as the client's exclusive representative in the WSIB matters.
Does anyone have anything to add in the form of information or actual experiences with this company.
Thanks.
February 22, 2010
I was seriously injured in a workplace accident two years ago, however, after 7 months of hospitalization, physio and Post-traumatic Stress interviews, I returned to light duties. I went on a LMR plan, with the same employer, but in a different role. Since my return to work and completion of my re-training with the same employer, I have now been active in my "re-trained" role for a year now, but the working relationship with my boss has deteriorated. I am currently off work (just for two weeks) as I had to have some corrective surgery done, am am back on WSIB benefits again for the duration of my accident. I seem to be very lucky with my case worker, but in this instance, I am very hesitant to return to work at all due to the post-accident working environment with my boss. How do you think it would go down should I opt to not return to work in one week, not because of my surgery, but only because of the polluted working environment I am subject to, considering I was retrained by WSIB with my current employer?
February 18, 2010
it seems that after years of checking,it is staringly obvious that no one! connected with any! wcb in any! way can/is acting in good faith,..not one!! person,..as wee see the law right now,..if this is so,and it certainly is!,..then all wcb are wide open to prosecution for their crimes,..the part of the "plan" that is relevent says this,..no prosecution,while acting in good faith,..that being so,..it seems they are wide open for prosecution and incarceration,..as it should be in fact!!...the rule of law applies to ALL!!...no exceptions!...none!!...since we have provided reams of data on bad faith to the proper authorities,..it is their! job to prosecute...not ours!...get on it people!...times a wasting and you! may be next!...and if we find even a sniff of collusion and or racketeering??...down they go!...and there is plenty of that isnt there??..no wonder all the crimes,..these crims have everything! to hide and will kill to do so,..dangerous freaks that they are!!...I can find not one instance of good faith in any! of my data,..not one!!..plenty of bad faith data though,..tons in fact!!..ha ha..yes,no wonder is it??.bloody criminals!!,..
name : r.c.lawson
February 17, 2010
hello all
I was wondering if anyone could give me info on the process of a nel award..mine is for pschotrumatic nel...I was seen by a psychiatrist and he only spent 20 minute talking to me, my guestion is this an average assessment for this type of nel award...I`ve seen many psycholoist before this and I always had at least 3 questionnaires followed by at very least a 1 1/2 interveiw......so I`m shocked by this incomplete handling of my nel...anyone give me insight please..
February 17, 2010
Do you want to change things help in the fight put your face up on youtube.Record all phone conversations you have with your MP,WCB rep,put it up on youtube the recorder costs about $40.00 and it plugs into your computor.Ask for everything in writing.Remember the Wcb RECORD all their calls and use only the parts of the conversation that suit them.While anyone that has a clue knows that there are WCB spies on these sites ,who cares we want them to know that their lives will be getting more difficult every day they continue to screw injured workers.This petition should be signed it would help all injured workers have an option of fighting these thugs in court http://www.gopetition.com/online/29449.html
name : I can tell you all one thing bitching and moaning will amount to nothing unless
February 16, 2010
I think it’s sad that a site like this has to exist
Trying not to be a sexist but I have no idea how to deal with my belligerent female case worker so when she recently became more and more ignorant and confrontational I asked for her supervisor’s name and made a complaint against her. He returned my call with her in the room on speaker phone and gave her his opinion after he thought he had hung up…apparently her piss poor attitude stretches beyond my case. She has since then cut me off my benefits because my employer can’t provide me modified duties I’m assuming. I am back to work half days and they are supposed to top up the other half but apparently when she freaked out on me because she doesn’t like the 3 dr’s and physiotherapist I am seeing she aggressively said I am cutting you off of benefits…..and she did. I have followed all dr’s orders all employers orders and everyone except this evil person claims I am doing exactly what I should be doing and my progress is encouraging and yet my income has gone from $3200.00 to $419.00 a month. I don’t want to have one working leg and I don’t want to have bill collectors calling every evening so why would I feel like these people think I’m milking the system (that would be like trying to extend a vacation in hell). These people investigate whether your injury is legit or not so why do they drive those unfortunate enough to be injured into complete desperation. I don’t know what to do besides quit and try and find something I can physically do until my knee heals but am not sure of what I risk in doing so as far as future treatment goes…….any advice folks?
It’s a sickening feeling being treated like this………my heart goes out to those suffering longer than I have as they cut me off after 5 weeks after tearing my medial collateral ligament and meniscus (apparently very long recovery period due to lack of blood flow)
Apparently walking 30 km’s a day through rough terrain is something everyone can do on one leg.
Just one last note to those who posted that wsib reads this site and you shouldn’t post on it….well I hope they do and I hope they one day have to deal with folks as ignorant as them who hold the future of their families in their hands. SHAME SHAME
February 16, 2010
As far as I been told I am the 1st in Canada to win a breach of privacy with an LMR provider using defaming info to have my benefits cut off... I am now being told regardless of this decision I must know reconsider signing with the same LMR provider or else be cut off again of my WSIB benefits by my case manager....Even after I won my case concerning this breach of privacy thru an ARO decision AND finding that my rights were ignored as of Feb 11 2010 I am now back at the same crap but I have told the board I will not sign this so called consent form they said I should move on and let by gones be by gones before I left this meeting I made it very clear there is no chance in hell I will sign a consent form that once again violates my right tio privacy.on the topic of MP`s..mp should stand for a Moron`s Position, my MP even lied about contacting someone on the inside of the wsib which was the same person I was in conflict with this jackass told me if I were you I`d sign this consent.......so goes to show not once was my MP acting in good faith
February 8, 2010
ANYONE INTERESTED IN PICKETING AT WCB IN SASKATCHEWAN;
MARCH 23 / 24 At the delta Inn were the WCB meeting is being held;
Sure would like to see you some support for injured and disabled workers;
downed worker
February 8, 2010
When are you people going to learn it does no good to write to MP'S.#1,It never makes it past the (garbage can) these people are not interested in your hard luck storys.
2#,Polititions bread and butter is big business and they do not want anything to change.3#,Do you really believe if you go above your wife's case workers head it will accomplish anything.4#,They are the ones that are giving the orders these people are thiefs its about the money not whether your wife is hurt or if she should get Wcb.5#,The only way to fight is put your story up on You tube show your face tell your story.6#,Do not vote take your name off the registration lists,do not fall for the line oh if you do not vote you do not have a say BS... you still pay tax's but the people are not voting and the scum are getting worried the party line is not working any longer.
name : drywallrocker
February 2, 2010
what we want from our! MP.s??..start asking the big questions...not sure what they are?? try asking us,..the victims!!,..do the job we pay you to do,..is that so complicated??..and please,spare us the excuses,..we have heard them all..over and over and over and over etc etc,..talk is cheap!...SHOW US!!
"REAL" ROB LAWSON
February 2, 2010
MP"s can help but they are so backlogged. It is best to get help from someone who has been there, someone who has been dealing wtih the crap from WSIB for many years and is not afraid to call them on something. I have made a lot of friends with people going through the same shit as me being an injured worker, I am glad that I was able to help so many get where they needed to be in their fight.and so happy to see them get their cases won and receive all the money they were supposed to receive since they got injured. DON'T GIVE UP.....they win if you give up
leneg778@hotmail.com
February 1, 2010
federally speaking we have been updating the MP,s etc for some time now and most?? have the goods on this dirty crime,..I suggest you all get faxes off to your MP asap!!,..he/she does not need the painfull details,what they do need is evidence,..and I am sure we all of us,have plenty of that,no??,when our politico,s were informed that the same crims who target us workers are also targetting our injured soldiers!![stripped clean in 2 years or less!!]...then they started to pay attention big time!,..rightly so too!!..re;caseworkers lies,..yes,well what did you expect from a psychopath??...the truth??...oh,..ha ha ha,..yeah...thats gonna happen...NOT!...this is why we need you to record ALL! conversations with ANY!! person in contact with any! wcb...CANADA WIDE!,..seamless lieing is one of the flags for psychopathy,..if you call the psychopath on the lie??..he.she will just drop another lie on you with a straight face,..do be carefull out there,..psychopaths and their networks tend to be extremely dangerous when cornered,..extremely!!,..its funny ya know,..we get action from the Yanks more or less instantly!!...they act!!...but here In Canada??.talk is all we get,..and more talk,..and then some more talk,..and so on,..if you watched Obama,s state of the union address,..you know what we mean,..the psychopath party is OVER! south of the line,..not here though,..not yet!!,..the message from Sicko has taken a while to filter through,but it is now out there in the mainstream and those with honour and courage are acting,..man,the corruption here in this! country,especially in the medical world,..is staggering! IN EXTENT AND DANGEROUS IN INTENT!!....very! dangerous!!..we asked about all those "lawyers" who work for wcb??..whats going on there that they need so many lawyers??..hmmm??..more than 9000 of the useless,dead meat,mouthpieces are busy creating situations so they can cash in big time,..again!...or is it still??..whatever,..that is the center of the criminal network at any! wcb,..the "legal"...dept!!,they cover the crimes and hire the crims,..and my,my! such crims they are!!,..behind the thin,very thin mask of sanity at all wcb,s is orginised crime in action,..nasty! druggish! brutes,..think it is.was medicine??..not a chance,..its a gravy train for losers,users and boozers!...rip off the mask and look what we see??.."le clubbe de psycho-path" in action!!drugs!,money laundering!...murder!!..as for these self appointed experts??..learn to say no! and mean it,..ask for credentials,..none or the wrong ones[lawyer for instance??],..then you need to say NO! and mean it,dont,ever! discuss medicine with anyone who is not qualified,..assertive not! aggressive,..thats the ticket!!
"real" rob lawson
February 1, 2010
My wife is on WSIB and was forced to go back to work with a myofacial strain while she waited to see a specialist. This was two weeks ago. The specialist report was sent to WSIB one week ago, and my wife called and talked to a WSIB secretary to confirm the information was added to her file. Supposedly with this report, the WSIB have to give her time off to heal properly. Well, after not hearing from her case manager for a week after the report had been sent, my wife tried to contact him, but he was always conveniently out of the office. When she finally did get a hold of him, he denied getting the specialist report (flat out lied) and when my wife called him on it, saying she talked to a receptionist who confirmed it was in her file, he made up more BS, saying it wasn't in her file. So fed up, she got a copy of the file herself, and hand delivered it to her caseworker. It will be interesting to see how he weasels out of this one. My wife wants to go above her case manager's head and talk to his boss about this, but I am not sure that is a good idea just yet. Any suggestions?
Also, we have been in contact with two separate MPs who have both been extremely eager to help us, and calling us for updates every few days. It pays to write your MP!
Jack
January 28th, 2010
I have been through a battle with WSIB since 1998, It was the worst thing that ever happend to me. I got myself some help and without this man I would probably be living on the street by now.He got me every dime that Comp tried to keep from me and it was the best day of my life. His business gave me the hand up and help I needed without selling my soul to the devil. IT is like dealing with the devil when you deal with comp. on your own. I got lots of horror stories , Maybe I will p0st some from time to time It is so nice to see these forums to talk to people. I wish I had them a few years back, but I did not own a computer then either. The support from others is great to have
lene
leneg778@hotmail.com
January 28th, 2010
Re: Jan.28/10 Lisa
You are going the wrong way for help for your husband. Iam an injured worker who has gained so much knowledge through my experience with the WSIB but when I read your post I knew the answer. I took the long , long road on things and learned the hard way. I saved all of my paperwork so if I can help you I will. I am a mother , alone , injured at work with two chidren and it has been hard for me but now I won my case and am feeling much better with my life now , My biggest and proudest saying is NEVER GIVE UP....Comp pushes one so they will just give up You can email me if you like I will do what I can to help you even if is only for support
lene
lene
leneg778
January 28th, 2010
RE Benefits: So who do I get ahold of to re-instate his benifits? His previous employer? Its been 3yrs since his injury and they JUST did surgery a couple months ago.....finally my husband is able to walk again. We haven't had benifits during this whole time, If I talk to his previous employer...how do I assure them I have a leg to stand on here? Thanks again so much, Lisa.
January 27th, 2010
People are asked all the time on a scale of 1-10,10 being the worst pain you have ever felt how much pain are you in? The problem with that question is if you are female with kids you could assume if you are a medical pro that having a child is the worst but if you are male what is it? They never ask that question when my husband was asked that I mentioned this to the doc. He said well then what is your worst pain my husband answered well the time I got electrocuted was very painful? I think this question is just a farce they don't care and don't think you have a notion of how much pain you are in. The other question I get all the time is you don't really need that medication do you? I answer of course or I wouldn't be on it, I am not an addict and what makes you think that I have enough control over the doctor who writes the prescriptions is willing to risk their medical license for me? That normally shuts them up. I went to pain management doc the first words out of his mouth was I don't give narcotics at all! Then when I didn't understand how he wanted me to take the drugs he gave me and refused to write it down how I was to take them nor would he send a letter to WSIB he told me to have them call as he was to busy to send a letter but the drugs cost more than I make a month. I never went back!
mytwocents
January 27th, 2010
Good Day all
I see that this message board is about the same as last year.
From a scale of 1 to 10 what is the most amount of pain that people are able to be subjected to. Once your injured you are asked that question all the time. But I'll bet that no will be able to find in legislation how much pain you are alowed to be in
Ask a friend corner your doctor, make them give you a number. Ask a politician, your case worker.
By Law how much pain is your employer able to force you to receive at work.
thats all for now.
have a great 2010 all you occupational impaired people out there. year of the tiger, gerrrr
d fisher
January 27th, 2010
I am currently on WSIB and enrolled in an LMR plan at college, I am worried about failing one of my courses. Does anyone know what happens if I don't pass. Will they let me try again next semester or do they cut me off?
Brad
bstanley@primus.ca
December 23, 2009
re;benifits [dental and othewise] they are required by law!! to continue when one is injured on the job,..and no,..wcb will most certainly not "help" you in any way,..they are not your freinds and are not docs in any way,..OC in action,..dont expect them to be "helpfull" and you will not be dissapointed,..their entire interest in the matter is CORRUPTION!,..period...they will eat you alive and spit out the bones,and they will!! eat your wife and kids right in front of you,..bet on it!!,..watch for the OC enforcers to appear,..nasty,dirty,druggish brutes,..it will happen!!,..best to be ready for it,..new net laws are in action,..party is over for the wcb crims,..we warned ya,..dont come whining at us,we dont want to hear it,..again!!,..losers!!,we asked this;"if these creatures are doing things like this to people like me,what else is going on there?...hmmm??"...seems some pretty nasty stuff,..of course!!,..well,.."if one is going to sup with the devil?best to shop for long handled eating utensils...before!! you dine"...they are not much use after are they??
r.c.lawson
@shaw.ca
December 23, 2009
Well WCB Alberta has done it again. My christmas present from them was to further reduce my income by another 50%. Listen to the doctors and the specialists and this is what I get. I did not ask to get hurt or lose the ability to earn an income but it happened and now I am cast aside as I am of no further use.I suffered a heart attack in late Sept and am trying to recover from that only to have my world come apart on Dec22 by WCB, they couldn't even leave it until after christmas.
Rudy
altasnow@telus.net
December 14, 2009
My husband is on WCB and just had his knee surgery 6 weeks ago. We lost our dental insurance when my husband went on WCB...now my question is(because I got a tooth thats killing me:( ...) will WCB help with dental costs? If anyone knows I would really appreciate it. Thanx in advace:)
Lisa
December 9, 2009
Get a lawyer right from the start - even if you have to beg borrow and steal to them. It's worth it.
Apply for CPP Disability as soon as you think you may qualify as 'severe and prolonged', you can always improve...but it's better to get this sooner than later because your benefits will be reduced the longer you wait, and you may 'time-out'. Do this even if it will be deducted from your WCB - they are a million times easier to deal with.
Look after yourself - do everything you can do to get as well as you can. I hope you recovery fully. Because God help you if you don't - I can guarantee you WCB/WSIB/Worksafe or whatever they want to call themselves have NOT got your back covered - they will attack you until you have nothing.
name : Too much experience in - learn from me!
December 8, 2009
so,we got the laws in place,now we wants some action please!!,..id theft[medical] .."white collar crimes"...that one has a lot of people crappin bullits,rightly so too!!,..and of course,..proceeds of crime,..and lets not forget the damages,..that alone will be substantial!!,..what we have learned this week,..orginised crime groups are/were? laundering their drug monies at wcb,s in exchange for harrassing and killing any "contentious"[their words!] injured person,..were talking millions of $$$ here people!!,..also,..the same crims that are used against us injured are targetting our injured soldiers as they come home for the same abuse!!,..I mean,it is bad enough what they do to us working types,..going after soldiers??..sick indeed!!...but then,thats psychopathy in action aint it??..no conscience at all!!...the story at the 5th estate on ptsd is an eye opener for sure!!,..know this people,...if your injury has any! psychological component at all,...it will! be used as a weapon against you at every opportunity!!...of course!!...they certainly went to town on mine and thatsa fact!!,..my god the criminal facts coming out right now are staggering in extent and very,very,evil! in intent!...very!!,..watch for patterns,they are there!!,this OC deal just keeps on growing and its universal and well entrenched in the medical world,..wcb,s are the conduit,they "run" the gangs here in Canada and b.latant c.orruption is by far the worst of the worst,I was warned and warned the mounties way back in 03 that what we are/will find will be;seriously criminal,very dangerous!,shocking in action and intent,...well,...yeah,..sure nuff!!,..thanx for the laws fella,s...lets get them in action pronto shall wee??...message for the "white collar crims" at wcb,s,..better learn to sing them blues my man!!...you will need them,..,Oh,my baby left me/havent got a dime/just got arrested,for doin white collar crimes!!...we warned ya!!,..ha ha...thats the thing about constantly dealing with psychopaths and their crim networks,..even if you tell them right up front that you are collecting evidence and its going to the top,..they will just shift gears a bit and do the crime anyways,..strange,not to say,odd!!,not to say...peculiar!!,..but very much the situation here in bc,..I mean one would think after a few shootings[them not I] and all the arrests and questions that these types would learn,..do they??..they do not!!...its like they have this plan in action and if you go off the track with them,they dont know what to do,..cant think "out of the box" at any time,..thanks be for us victims no??,be sure and research psychopathy,..what you learn will let you understand how and why you are getting abused and tortured and will give you some tools to set up the crims for prosecution,..know this,..they will!! go for it,...every time!!...this can be extremely usefull and also dangerous,..removing a psychopaths gravy train is a dangerous,dangerous move,..be prepared,..trust no one at any!! wcb and or anyone!! connected to them,,especially right now when they are running around looking for others to blame,..another psychopathic trait in fact,..."shift the blame"...they are so,so predictable at times,..right now we are "looking into"..hewitt associates here out west,..the "head of the beast" so to speak,..and the prems right hand men as well,..well,well,...aint that something,..the head guy was/is supposed to be dead,..and he turns up at the the premiers elbow feeding him and no doubt threatening him as well,..messsage for god/gord,.."if I wanted to take you out,it would have happened long ago"...engage whats left of those little grey cells and for gods sake,..get rid of the flakies,..."dead" men like hewitt/jewitt will drag you down with them,..if they can,..this is the oc connection at our legislature,..hewitt associates,..hmmm...seems "dead" ahem,men really do tell tales??...strange indeedy!!
name : "real" rob Lawson,..
November 30, 2009
2009 I have just been determined to be at my maximum recovery. The worse part of all this for me was making sure you get the point across to your doctor, any specialist you see, anybody you talk to at wsib what body part hurts or you have trouble with. Let them know even if you are having a good day one day the next day won't be so good.Getting dressed, making dinner,washing your hair,putting your shoes on, preparing dinner. If it hurts a bit, chances are it may be worse after an operation or a couple months from first being injured. Distinquish I said LEFT and RIGHT arm and hand, get copies of all notes from doctors in case they did miss something you said. I have both hands carpal tunnel, elbow forearm tendonitis and bulging disc Cervical. My adjudicator has been great to me, on the other hand Nurse Case Manager did not care for. No compassion. Tries to trick you up.Had Carpal Tunnel Operation. Took away night pain but strengh not 100%,still don,t have all dexterity back been 7 months, both hands. Problems have gotten progressively worse over 1 1/2 years.Work looking for a job for me as we speak. Good luck to me!
November 16th, 2010
WCB Sask has intentionally caused me further injury by denying me physicians requests for help. I am now permanently disabled due to WCB fraudulent claims administration. WCB is still denying me physicians requests for treatment of my multiple injuries suffered on the job. I am planning on filing a lawsuit and am considering filing a class action lawsuit if anyone else is interested.
The class action would have to be for negligence or fraudulent claims administration, if interested please reply to fixwcbcanada@gmail.com
this is only for Saskatchewan Injured workers who have been abused by Sask WCB.
Bruce
fixwcbcanada@gmail.com
October 27, 2009
Dean who do you mean by "board of referees"? WSIB is Ontario's version of WCB and if you disagree you can ask for a reconsideration or go to the Appeal Resolution Officer (ARO) stage; either you or your employer can go to Tribunal if they are still dissatisfied with the decisions and that is the final stage of the appeal process.
Did the decision to allow entitlement come from a reconsideration request or a formal appeal and how was it worded? If you got a favorable decision on appeal WSIB should be paying you regardless of what your employer says.
Without seeing the actual decision, no one can comment accurately on what is happening in your claim. If you cannot get help from a local source (union, legal clinic or injured workers group) try:
Office of the Worker Advisor
http://www.owa.gov.on.ca/home_eng.html
1-800-435-8980 or Industrial Accident Victims Group of Ontario (IAVGO) http://www.iavgo.org/
1-800-435-8980 Both of these organisations can help you and they will not charge for their services.
1-800-435-8980 or Industrial Accident Victims Group of Ontario (IAVGO) http://www.iavgo.org/
1-800-435-8980 Both of these organisations can help you and they will not charge for their services.
October 26, 2009
Hello everyone in 2005 I changed job's to make more money because I had a house and two cars to pay for,well one month after I started I had fallen and tore my left shoulder and hurt my lower back. After a few weeks of therapy my work started calling and asking me to come back to work but my doctor said I was nowhere near ready to return. I then phoned my adjucator and said that my work is horassing me to come back and I fear when I do go back they will fire me. Well guess what? They did send me back by saying if I do not go back they will drop me off of my WSIB benefits,. The second day back the owner of the company fired me! He said I told him to Foff which I did not, and 20 minuets later my adjudicator phoned me and cut me off my benefits because of a misconduct. I took the employer to the board of refferies and won a unanimus decision saying there was no misconduct and still fighting them since 2005 now I have no house no cars no wife and I can belive the way we are treated in this country. I was born and raised here and I can not find any government help how can they strip someone's life away and sleep at night?
Dean
skizz-64@live.com
October 26, 2009
Regarding your below post, you have 2 viable choices,
- seek help from the office of injured workers or
- hire a paralegal ( if you are in Ontario )
August 05, 2009
I got hurt at work back in 2007, I wrote up an accident report and followed all the rules from my supervisors,went to the doctors got the report done from him,sent it back to my job...I have done everything that wsib have told me to do,I've went to so many mri scans,ct scans,and all my results show that there is something wrong with my back...Its now 2009 and I have did an appeals in March 2009,and WON!!!!!And have recieved NOTHING from them.I work for the CITY and they are fighting me 100 percent..I have a son,and i'm loosing my house because they will not pay a cent to me,I had to go to welfare because WSIB will not pay for whats happened to me... So please tell what the hell am I to do!!!!!
October 26, 2009
Well lets just say I am an injured worker myself (2004 back injury)in Ontario, was let go by my employer in 2005 and was thrown into the LMR process. After a few arguments with the LMR provider I settled on a Paralegal course keeping in mind I would be able to help other injured workers. That is exactly what I did and continue to do so. WSIB is a scam and unless you have a Representative you will lose any right you have! I encourage all workers to find a rep before the problems start!
Dave
October 26, 2009
wondering what is the best way to approach a reconsideration, when they did not rule on the merits; what are the merits?
Thanks
October 22, 2009
Written Without bias or prejudice
“The unions “big businesses, Government have all been responsible for the pain and suffering that the injured worker has endured over these many years.
This is due to the never ending quest for money and power, profit.
Due to a lack of genuine interest by politicians and their parties in the workers’ Compensation issue in this country this has been proven by the fact that if you complain to much they simply call the police on you. People have lost faith in the parliamentary procedure. Why would you vote for a system that does not support you or your family in your hour of crisis?
The justice system has went in the same direction due to the lack of access to the legal system injured workers are now beginning to take the law into their own hands such as the case in Edmonton where the man took hostages and I would guess that it will not be the first or last they were lucky this time no one was hurt “will it end that way next time who knows”
When good men and women ask for justice and support and get nothing but abuse and deceit heaped upon them by the media and government and this vile act of provincial parliament do not be surprised when you create freedom fighters. Our country is at a crossroads our leaders speak eloquently of the rights of other people in foreign lands but deny the very rights to citizens of their own country.
People like Ed Broadbent a well known politician complains that people are no longer voting or supporting the democratic system. Well think about it Ed people are not uninformed any longer they recognize the lies and deceit the politicians spread with the help of the media. The “Workers’ Compensation issue” and many other issues that are being ignored by people of your ilk are festering in their very souls and will be addressed in one way or another.
The people are crying out from the wilderness give us justice give us the ability to earn a living , to live our lives and support a Constitution that at this moment does not support us .There must justice for all in any Democracy or it will sink into chaos and anarchy. And one just has to watch the news to see the fraud and corruption that seems to be taking over the government of this country “why the citizens would not be disillusioned and angry”.
Derrick Fernie drywallrocker@gmail.com
October 21, 2009
Thank you to the person that provided this link to the Ombudsman page on Facebook:
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Toronto-ON/Ontario-Ombudsman/54924015867
October 19, 2009
Posting removed to due discovering that this group charges a fee-for-service, which CIWA does not endorse.
October 13, 2009
surgical mistake, result in a condition that I cannot work. For years I tried to get CPP-LTD. Doctors have a code of secret between each other they just lie and are corrupt and the Canadian system does not care about their citizens when asked to help a proven medical screw-up, and are just as currupt. We look so good to the world. Underneath it all if they only know what is going on. Geraldine
wimbruck@telus.net
September 17, 2009
Frequently, I have heard injured workers stories about Worker Compensation Board (WCB) not keeping its promises and its mission. Working in a health care institution, I have to deal with unpredictable human weight and human will. Frequent lifting, pushing, pulling, positioning put my body and especially joints in perpetual stress. Unfortunately, I was a victim of repetitive injuries. Having heard the poor opinion of WCB in our community, I avoided filing incident reports and dealings with this mistrusted and unreliable agency. I continued to work to the point I hardly could move my arm. I sustained a serious shoulder injury with severe pain and decreased range of motion. It took months for the inflammation to subside and I had to go for subsequent shoulder surgery. Currently, I have been recovering after brutally painful surgery with a hope for improvement and a cure. To my dismay after initial improvement of this joint, my shoulder swelled up again, collected some free fluid, and became painful. As I already mentioned, considering WCB poor reputation with compensating injured workers, I worked as long as I could after the injury and of course, the case manager from the board disallowed my claim on this very ground. I appealed and with a great help of my union the claim was sent back to the board for reconsideration. Again, the case manager kept her grounds and refused compensation. I appealed again and this time the review officer decided that my claim was legitimate and I should be compensated. To my great astonishment and disbelief, my employer appealed this decision and wants my compensation to be overturned. From all these events, I would like to share with other injured workers how our tax payers’ money is being spent. My perception is that instead of compensating the poor, injured and sick workers the system often unfairly deprives these workers fair and deserved income but on the other hand this system pays lavishly to case managers and the review officers (already 2 in my case). The system will pay another review officer, perhaps a lot more expensive in the Workers Compensation Appeal Tribunal. On top of that, my employer agency is publicly funded and despite the numerous staffs that works in the disability department in the Corporate Office (quite a high number), this agency hires lawyers for each and every step of my appeal. I took some liberty and I am investigating these costs paid by tax payers. I would not be surprised if that the money spend by the government on this appeal would amount for more than my total compensation would be for the lost wages due to injury. And perhaps employer would have to pay only a fraction for the increased rate of insurance to the WCB. Last year the rate was 27 cents this year it will be 30 cents for my area of work compare to loggers or steel workers where the rates are 8-10 dollars per hour per worker. We all as ordinary citizens have to pay higher rates for any insurance if we have claims on our cars, houses and others. Fortunately, it is perhaps easier to get compensation for a crushed car or damaged house. Still it is perhaps near to impossible to get compensation for damaged human body due to nature of work the human did. In the end, I am aiming at a conclusion that probably the money belonging to the injured worker like myself and perhaps countless others are being spent to support the upper middle class white collar workers (review officers and lawyers, not even counting abundance of staff in the disability management of my employing agency). I would like to ask the legislature: Is this a mission of WCB? Is my appeal from my employer’s disability management department is a mission of this department? Does it have to be so many steps of appeals in just one case? If I have to hire a lawyer for each step I could be probably broke by now. I am genuinely afraid that most workers do not posses both the financial resources and the emotional stamina to withstand the system’s perpetual and never ending “oppression”. I think it would be simpler to go to the court just after the first step of the appeal and get a final fair review. And this way it perhaps would be simpler and cheaper for both me and the government. Is the system set to support the affluent or the injured? How many years and how many devastated lives, careers, and families you need to hear about to put the WCB business at the top of the legislative agenda? Why the system deprives or steals our (injured workers) money away? As an outcome how many families are slipping into poverty? How many kids have to grow up poor? Why are we allowing to be victimized? When the system is going to be revised and simplified? I would love to hear your comments at:
worker557@yahoo.ca
October 5, 2009
To all injured workers:
First of all the Meredith principle states that all moneys are to be paid out of the fund this includes the wages of the Board members and case workers adjudicators. Can you imagine our surprise? When we found out that the tax payer is really footing the bill this has been written in the Toronto star and several other publications and admitted to by a Toronto MP.
This tells us that the Government has broken the Meredith agreement and they cannot claim to be arms length away from the Workers Compensation boards any longer because they are direct stakeholders in it and have been committing fraud against the very public that pays the bills in reality they have made the public stakeholders in these boards as well.
Our relatives, the ones that are paying taxes are paying these caseworkers and adjudicators to torment and abuse injured workers.
And the employers that are paying into the fund are really getting ripped off because they are paying the bill twice because they all pay personal income taxes plus business taxes and they have to pay into the fund in order to do business.
But the real sad fact is we need to get our acts together and fight these people with every trick in the book. We have to sign petitions organize protest get t-shirts made up like Mike Beauchamp did dammed good idea. Whining and snivelling does no good I know your in pain and your life has been screwed up so has mine people have to get past the dark thoughts and focus on the light and that light is either reforming or destroying the WCB.
I have a petition to get rid of the privative clauses out of the Workers’ Compensation Acts’. The section of the act called (Jurisdiction Of The Board) now you may think what good will that do but as it now stands even if you take your case to the Supreme the only thing they can do is send it back to the WCB to look at it again but if we get rid of this clause where they are protected by a Provincial Act of the legislature then we have a chance.
I will be taking this petition not to the government because we know that they will ignore it but to the United Nations if we can embarrass these people on the world stage then maybe we will be able to force them to make a change.
This is my petition link
http://www.gopetition.com/online/29449.htmlSeptember 22, 2009
I want to express my strongest protest against the way WSiB is handling my case.
Agency established to assist General Public and protect / assist it in time of desperation /suffer and misfortune, become profit oriented identity placing well being of victims on back burner of its activity / objectives.
Criminal Corporations have substantial influence over WSiB's activities/processing of claims. WSiB acts from position of power (criminal immunity) and further victimizes already suffering people.
Through out duration of processing it does infringe on criminal and sadistic tendencies.
It is beyond comprehension, that individuals like me, with life threatening medical conditions (due to criminal negligence of employers) are deprived of/from urgent medical attention and financial support they deserve due to WSiB's investigation of victim's employment and medical records back to Stone Age (in chase for any and all excuses to limit victim's entitlements).
It is paradoxical, that diagnoses /conclusions are being made by some of WSiB's personnel with out any medical / investigative knowledge /skills. Victim's evidence submissions, Reports of WSiB's qualified and professional investigators are not enough to adjudicate obvious cases. Such untimely manner of claims processing further deteriorates victim's state of health.
It is outrageous, that WSiB investigation focuses on victims instead of denouncing and panelizing Corporations which violated all regulations of the civilized society and compromised lives of many people. This is very serious systemic problem and needs to be addressed immediately.
It is easy to be with out any compassion in cases involving other people, but in life any thing can happen to any one and corrupted, dysfunctional system may victimize the very people operating it (the system) at the very moment.
It is important for WSiB to become protector of Constitutional, Labor and Civil Rights in Ontario (with in its mandate). I expect WSiB to be fully compliant / accountable with Code of Ethics, Justice and Moral Values and with out further delays adjudicate my Claim in to my benefit.
During my awaiting for WSiB's help I am being with out any medications, any food and being repossessed from every thing I worked for trough my 35 + years of hard work. name : Andrew
September 17, 2009
Hello there.
First of all I would like to thank you for providing an opportunity for injured workers to share their stories and inevitably horrific experiences with WSIB.
In an initial effort to inflict change with the WSIB's policies and procedures I have decided to create a myspace account to share my experience and to make contact with other injured workers victimized by the WSIB. It is my goal to gain the support of injured workers in an attempt to launch a class action lawsuit against the WSIB and it's corporate shareholders. I am not a lawyer, I am an injured worker who has just had my appeal denied following a terribly one sided hearing and I am not going to lay down and die. I also intend to harass government officials, as high in the government structure as I can go, starting with my local MPP and MP. Also, once I have begun to accumulate a list of injured workers through my myspace page I intend to gain as much media coverage as I can, starting with a local television station.
If it is acceptable I would like to direct anyone using this forum to "vent", share stories, or seek out help to the myspace page I have created at http://www.myspace.com/wsib.on.ca
Thank you very much.
William Busby
wsib.on.ca@gmail.comAugust 27, 2009
August 27th,2009
I have just been provided with evidence that Saskatchewan Workers Compensation has been conducting assessments on Injured and disabled workers, using a doctor who has lost his license to operate due to nearly KILLING A PATIENT;
This retired Doctor, has conducted 2 assessments on me,and each time has missed the need for surgery, and of course has just opinioned that I needed physiotherapy; It is plain to see that Injured Workers are being CRIPPLED due to WCB hiring these kinds of physicians who ALWAYS miss the need for surgery; OR BLATANTLY TURN BLIND-EYE;
NO Diagnose Means - No Health Recovery - Poverty - Misery;
wcbclassaction@fastmail.fm
August 26, 2009
The Canadian people have become so Desensitised to the suffering and pain of others we no longer feel anything except when violence occurs then we wake up for a moment then we go back to our mundane lives not concerned with anything but our own selfish goals. I have tried to see the good in my fellow man and I find them sorely lacking I have begged politicians for help for the injured workers and got a pat on the back and the old line yes we know its bad but there’s nothing we can do. But I believe its time to start marching holding rallies protesting outside the parliament and all government offices. We must make that phrase just doing business Obsolete! We must come together under one banner. United we can fight this monster Divided we will surly fail. The people must do what they are good at not all people are born to lead I would follow a good foremen into hell but I would not follow a poor one across the street. We must organize if you’re a radio talk show host and you’re good at it you’re valuable to the movement that’s what you should do if your good at drafting letters and typing that’s what you should be doing if you’re a good researcher your valuable if you know a lot of big shots this can be useful. Information is key to any war and make no mistake this is a war for our very existence. I believe we should be trying to elect independent members into parliament federal and provincial that are sensitive to our cause and other social causes this very fact would scare the hell out of the main stream parties can you imagine having a independent voice in parliament.
We must have justice we will tolerate no less
dwr
August 05, 2009
I got hurt at work back in 2007, I wrote up an accident report and followed all the rules from my supervisors,went to the doctors got the report done from him,sent it back to my job...I have done everything that wsib have told me to do,I've went to so many mri scans,ct scans,and all my results show that there is something wrong with my back...Its now 2009 and I have did an appeals in March 2009,and WON!!!!!And have recieved NOTHING from them.I work for the CITY and they are fighting me 100 percent..I have a son,and i'm loosing my house because they will not pay a cent to me,I had to go to welfare because WSIB will not pay for whats happened to me... So please tell what the hell am I to do!!!!!July 07, 2009
did any of you get the story behind the gibsons shooting??..who were the rcmp acting for??..who was/is the shooter??..his dad??.[bad boy that one if the stories are true],and the net "chat" ahem,..that precluded the visit??.like I told them all,.."this aint the old days" we will get you!",..stupido,s!..morons!,..mental midgets!,..but fortuanatly for us,predicatable morons,..they just can not resist going for it,..usefull,..scary but usefull none the less!!,..ah,well,..so be it,..on the 21st I am going to be in supreme court speaking on the long term abuses and extortion/gang contacts[enforcers] that goes with being injured in canada,..and we will be concentrating on the murder attempts,..and the threats[especialy them],not to mention the effects on my kids and wife,..looking forward to it actually!!,..these idiots should know better by now than to poke a hornets nest with a stick,..or if you absolutly must??..use a very,very,long stick indeed!!,..by the way,the story??.it was me,..thanks!! rcmp!!...again...or is it still??..the exact etymology escapes me...yers Rob.
name : r.c.lawsonJune 25, 2009
Truth’s Judgment for the chair of the WSIB November 30, 2007 Thank you for causing me pain. It is your lying words that drive me; me who loves to reveal all lies and secrets. Your ramblings old man have caused me to seek you; because you have fallen The man: the WSIB chair, permanently attach him to a chair. Medicine is what he needs, not being an addict, they will not affect him. Oh no, he will rise above any addiction that he causes, but it will not be him causing them. Rain on him and those who help him; and stop raining on the ones that refuse to. Then it can become a violent rain, like they have never known. The unknown will bind them, so then the others will no longer be afraid, then they can speak the truth. Once again, Truth will come forth and lay them to rest. Unacceptable, they are! Truth has condemned them, for their choices are evil. They will look up to the sky, but they are not part of it. They will cling to their lies, because lies are their nature. They have failed to be redeemed to forgiveness, as they have so declined. They will fight for their lives as in days of old; they believe in their lies, but their judgments have long ago been foretold. They will pray for their lies to save them; but they will parish in defeat. Truly I tell you; they are not who they seem to be, not even the least of them. But soon they will be seen for what they truly are. ---------------------------------------------------------- Labour market re-entry (LMR), suitable employment or business (SEB), and non- economic loss (NEL) policies define the profit margins for the WSIB. Wording in the policies, such as "suitable for the worker," "and is available," and "calculate the percentage of permanent impairment," can be read in many different ways. Intentional vagueness leads to bad interpretations by the WSIB that negatively affect injured workers. It is my belief that, in order to extort extra profit, the WSIB have been misinterpreting the meanings of their LMR, SEB, and NEL programs. LMR (lamed minimum-wagers refurbished,) SEB (second-rate employment or bamboozlement,) NEL (notional embellished looters.) WSIB (Wretched Slaves & Illiteracy Brokers) Name: Al King
June 25, 2009 attention sask injured workers, a bit of good news - a glimmer of hope. there is actually a cm at sask wcb who has morals, ethics, and the intestinal fortitude to do the right thing and make a fair ruling. don't give up hope. we all have rights and need to persue all disputable issues with great assertiveness. please remember there are people that do care, we just have to keep looking, with great persitance. more to follow on my case at a more appropriate time. keep up the fight and good luck ps have u signed judicial inquiry petition? crucial 2 do so.
September 24, 2009
Truth’s Judgment for the chair of the WSIB
November 30, 2007Thank you for causing me pain. It is your lying words that drive me; me who loves to reveal all lies and secrets. Your ramblings old man have caused me to seek you; because you have fallen
The man: the WSIB chair, permanently attach him to a chair. Medicine is what he needs, not being an addict, they will not affect him. Oh no, he will rise above any addiction that he causes, but it will not be him causing them. Rain on him and those who help him; and stop raining on the ones that refuse to. Then it can become a violent rain, like they have never known. The unknown will bind them, so then the others will no longer be afraid, then they can speak the truth. Once again, Truth will come forth and lay them to rest. Unacceptable, they are! Truth has condemned them, for their choices are evil. They will look up to the sky, but they are not part of it. They will cling to their lies, because lies are their nature. They have failed to be redeemed to forgiveness, as they have so declined.
They will fight for their lives as in days of old; they believe in their lies, but their judgments have long ago been foretold. They will pray for their lies to save them; but they will parish in defeat.
Truly I tell you; they are not who they seem to be, not even the least of them. But soon they will be seen for what they truly are.
-------------------------------------------------------Labour market re-entry (LMR), suitable employment or business (SEB), and non- economic loss (NEL) policies define the profit margins for the WSIB. Wording in the policies, such as "suitable for the worker," "and is available," and "calculate the percentage of permanent impairment," can be read in many different ways. Intentional vagueness leads to bad interpretations by the WSIB that negatively affect injured workers. It is my belief that, in order to extort extra profit, the WSIB have been misinterpreting the meanings of their LMR, SEB, and NEL programs.
LMR (lamed minimum-wagers refurbished,)
SEB (second-rate employment or bamboozlement,)
NEL (notional embellished looters.)
WSIB (Wretched Slaves & Illiteracy Brokers)
name : Al King
June 24, 2009
attention sask injured workers, a bit of good news - a glimmer of hope. there is actually a cm at sask wcb who has morals, ethics, and the intestinal fortitude to do the right thing and make a fair ruling. don't give up hope. we all have rights and need to persue all disputable issues with great assertiveness. please remember there are people that do care, we just have to keep looking, with great persitance. more to follow on my case at a more appropriate time. keep up the fight and good luck ps have u signed judicial inquiry petition? crucial 2 do so.June 24, 2009
The following information is also posted on my personal website http://tombrownskwcb.tripod.com/. While it raises serious concerns with Board-level appeals in Saskatchewan, it may very well apply to other WCB jurisdictions as well: IMPORTANT UPDATE: June 19th, 2009 I’ve recently learned that when a claimant files a Board-level appeal, a Board assistant rewords your appeal into a “summary document”, and submits it to the Members of the Board for decision. As unbelievable and underhanded as this sounds, I have in fact confirmed this with Board Services. Even more underhanded is that claimants are denied access to these summary documents! Unlike the Members of the Board who are government appointed, it’s important to note that Board assistants are WCB employees. Like any insurance corporation, WCB awards these top positions to individuals who have finely honed their Machiavellian skills http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/Machiavellian . Considering the summaries prepared by these individuals are inaccessible to claimants, it clearly stands to reason they bear little resemblance to claimant appeals. After nearly 13 years of battling the Board, and the submission of numerous appeals, the Board’s ruling in my case now makes perfect sense… They have never accepted my appeals because they’ve never actually reviewed them. Instead, their ruling has been based on the devious interpretation of a WCB employee! Under normal circumstances I would take this issue directly to The Minister Responsible for WCB. As evidenced here however http://thesaskparty.tripod.com/id8.html, he’s refused to address other legitimate concerns I’ve raised. While at present I’m uncertain which direction I’ll head with this information, I offer the following advice to others filing Board-level appeals: 1. Prepare a written appeal that fully explains your circumstances, but do not immediately submit it. Instead, submit only a summary of the issues you disagree with, and request an “oral appeal hearing” with a court stenographer. 2. Once arranged, bring 3 copies of your full written appeal to your hearing, 1 for each Board Member. 3. Read your appeal aloud at your hearing, inviting questions from the Board as you go through it. Please note that the waiting period for an oral hearing can be significantly longer than written appeal submissions. However, such a hearing will ensure the Board has reviewed your appeal submission. As always, I’ll endeavour to keep readers abreast of any developments regarding this issue.
June 17, 2009
This is my WSIB story. In January 3 of 2006, i was involved in a work related injury which had my right hand crushed in a roller at a wood working factory. As anyone can tell, i suffer a degloving type of injury that my right hand skin was pull out of me and the rest you can imagin. The accident was not my fault, it was the maintainance guy fault that left the machine running. As everyone know, WSIB is a no fault insurance. They took care of me, from medical to you name it. The pain of my injury is unbearable, and also affected me physically and mentally. This is the only part i dont like about the WSIB system. I was rated 41% for my NEL and i was offer 2 option. Monthly ($187 for life) or lump sum payment ($33,000). The problem about both option is that for my type of injury the money is so small to even pay my bill that i have accumunated from the day i got injured. Now, im depresed cant use my right hand which is dominant hand to work so finding a suitable job is very hard. My question is why WSIB pay so small for seriuos injury like mine? Even for lawyers to get involved they want lots of money upfront which i cannot afford.
My name is Jay Caddy from Brampton Ontario and i approved this message. jaycaddy@rogers.comMarch 30, 2009
FOR ALL INJURED WORKERS if you are a injured worker that is medicated on any type of a narcotic,and are being deamed earning capacity by wc, and they are trying to send you back into the workforce on a narcotic medication,this will be of interest to you. I am a trained occupational health and safety person, with a certificate to prove it. The Sask. WCB has been famous for deaming earning capacity on highly medicated injured workers while fullwell knowing that no employer could or would hire them because of due dilegent laws and the possibility of Bill C-45 coming into play. Therefore, inlight of the above, I have developed an unbeatabale appeal regarding highly medicated injured workers in the work force. At this time we have taken three cases forward, and three cases won. We are unbeatable by WCB in Sask regarding this issue, and THEY KNOW IT. The nice part about all this is, that I am an injured worker that Sask WCB paid for the training, for me to become a OH&S person, which led to me being able to set the program up that beats them. I can, with this program and my knowledge, win any case against an WC organization, any were in Canada, regarding a highly medicated injured worker being deamed earning capacity. If you are one of these medicated injured workers, contact me by email at jimtaphorn@hotmail.com
and I am not scared to sign my name, as WCB in Sask know it well.
Jim Taphorn
Quinton Sask.
March 23, 2009
one of the difficulties of doing this kind of thing is that so often one is speaking a language that so few understand,it also comes a part of having a rather Large IQ,at times its frustrating in the extreme,something of a cassandra syndrome kind of situation,you can see the future[or the facts] but no-one believes you until the disaster happens and by then its too late,I am by no means bragging here,rather its more of a whine in fact,like I said,frustrating!,..last time we checked my IQ was 186,...at times I wish it was 100,then this would be easier for me to digest,what we dont know...kinda thang,..still,..reality wins,...hands down in my world,.I have to deal with it,act,and then I get to move on,and such reality!!,...for instance,..these days my information about who and what I am communicating with is valuable in the extreme to the perps in the extortion/abuse situation I find myself in,we have succeeded in cleaning up the net so they get arrested for even thinking of stealing the info,so what do the perps do??..weeeel,...in my case they have payed off certain of my neighbors to intercept the info before it gets to the net,this has to happen within a certain radius or it will not work of course,..here,s whats happening these days,..my adsl service says its off line,I phone my provider[telus] tp speak to their techs and voila!...it comes back on...I hang up...off again...call the techs again...on again...in the last few days I have to do this to get a connection,right now after making the connection its off again,..before posting this I will call the number and it will go on then I can post this,..such an effort to seperate me from the rest of Canada must have its reasons no??..someone..ahem....must be awfully afraid of what we are doing here,..who must that be I wonder??..why the extortionists and their political cronies of course,...this is no slur on all politico,s,rather it is the reality here in canada,..gang connections have in fact infiltrated the goverment of this great land to such an extent and now we have exposed them they are trying to seperate us so they can kill me and you,the rest of Canada will never know,..predictable yes!!...dangerous...yes,...but reality??..yes indeed!!,...for all of you jumping through hoops left right and center trying to get some justice,this is the reality of what is happening here,..not all gangs are bikers or druggies,..some,and these are the nastiest of the bunch,are extortion gangs at work via the various wcb,s and they have infiltrated the goverment of our country to such an extent that they can and do these things in an effort to cover up their crimes,..and last time I checked extortion was a crime here in canada,though we could not tell by the politico,s actions,..as was murder,..id theft..threats and harrassment and on and on,..such an affort to extort the funds available for my medical care and the care of myself and my kids,..such an effort to cover the crimes says that these crimes are not only happening but have been happening for a long time,..they have done this before,and if we do not succeed they will do it again,and again,and again,..the average injured working canadian is worth something between 3 and 5 million $$ to the extortionist,..plenty enough to pay for this technology and for them to hire the nasties to do the dirty,...with lots left over for the wcb employee,s to collect as "bonus,s",perks,and obscene salaries,..plenty!!...so for you average canadians out there,be prepared,this is what will happen to you as well,..you bet,..and dont bother asking the criminals involved to investigate themselves,..thats what they want you to do,.."appeals" are a waste of time as well as being food for the psychopaths,..they feed on your misery,..they dont care about you,they just want the cash$$...and if they can get some personal power out of it??..so much the better.at least from their point of view,..remember...this is reality,..I wish...I really do wish...this was bs,..but its not,..if you are injured on the job in Canada?..better you should die and decrease the surplus population[apologies to dickens],is what you will get,..count on it,..in spite of evidence out the yin yang we have yet to see any wcb employee charged with any crime whatsever!!,...it has never happened and if the perps have their way it never will,..and so far they seem to be able to manipulate and threaten to the extent that this is what is happening,..soooo,...this can not happen unless the politico,s not only participate in murder but they also are networking for culpable deniability and the law does not seem to get beyond the lies and obfuscation,..too many "buudies" we suppose,..too many psychopaths with years to set up the situation and be aware,YOU WILL BE TARGETED IN YOUR VULNERABLE MOMENTS!,..count on it!!,..and maybe...maybe eh??...you will survive,..maybe!!...most likely you will be murdered as soon as you get close to the kickback schemes,vehicular homicide is a favorite but poison is by no means rare either,..heart attack anyone??..embolism??...how about being mis,medicated[yeah rrrrite,mis...my aunt fanny!!]...too bad really,..but again thats reality in this country,the gangs are running the show,..sick,sick,sick!!,..well,...time to dial telus techs and post this, name : "real rob" Lawson
@shaw.ca
March 18, 2009
http://www.cra-arc.gc.ca/tx/ndvdls/tpcs/rdsp-reei/menu-eng.html
I just found about about this and thought I'd share through this forum ........ Registered disability savings plan (RDSP) A registered disability savings plan (RDSP) is a savings plan that is intended to help parents and others save for the long-term financial security of a person who is eligible for the Disability Tax Credit (disability amount). Contributions to an RDSP are not tax deductible and can be made until the end of the year in which the beneficiary turns 59 years of age. Contributions that are withdrawn are not to be included as income for the beneficiary when paid out of a RDSP. However, the Canada disability savings grant, Canada disability savings bond and investment income earned in the plan will be included in the beneficiary’s income for tax purposes when paid out of the RDSP. Note Under proposed changes; the deadline for opening an RDSP, making contributions and applying for the matching grant and the income-tested bond for the 2008 contribution year has been extended to March 2, 2009 from December 31, 2008. The 2009 RDSP contribution year will begin March 3, 2009. http://www.cra-arc.gc.ca/tx/ndvdls/tpcs/rdsp-reei/cdsg-eng.html
Canada disability savings grants and Canada disability savings bonds What are Canada disability savings grants (CDSGs)? The Government of Canada will pay matching grants of 300, 200, or 100 percent, depending on the beneficiary’s family income and the amount contributed. An RDSP can receive a maximum of $3,500 in matching Grants in one year, and up to $70,000 over the beneficiary’s lifetime. A grant can be paid into an RDSP on contributions made to the beneficiary’s RDSP by December 31 of the year the beneficiary turns 49 years old. What are Canada disability savings bonds (CDSBs)? The government will pay income-tested bonds of up to $1,000 a year to low-income Canadians with disabilities, regardless of the amount contributed. The lifetime bond limit is $20,000. A bond can be paid into an RDSP until the year in which the beneficiary turns 49 years old. When are repayments of CDSGs and CDSBs required? All grants and bonds paid into the plan in the ten years preceding one of the following events, must be repaid to the Government of Canada; * the RDSP is terminated (voluntary closure); * the plan is deregistered; * a disability assistance payment is made from the plan; * the beneficiary ceases to be eligible for the disability amount; or * the beneficiary dies. For more information about the grant and bond, visit the Human Resources and Social Development Canada website. Human Resources and Social Development Canada
I just found about about this and thought I'd share through this forum ........ Registered disability savings plan (RDSP) A registered disability savings plan (RDSP) is a savings plan that is intended to help parents and others save for the long-term financial security of a person who is eligible for the Disability Tax Credit (disability amount). Contributions to an RDSP are not tax deductible and can be made until the end of the year in which the beneficiary turns 59 years of age. Contributions that are withdrawn are not to be included as income for the beneficiary when paid out of a RDSP. However, the Canada disability savings grant, Canada disability savings bond and investment income earned in the plan will be included in the beneficiary’s income for tax purposes when paid out of the RDSP. Note Under proposed changes; the deadline for opening an RDSP, making contributions and applying for the matching grant and the income-tested bond for the 2008 contribution year has been extended to March 2, 2009 from December 31, 2008. The 2009 RDSP contribution year will begin March 3, 2009. http://www.cra-arc.gc.ca/tx/ndvdls/tpcs/rdsp-reei/cdsg-eng.html
Canada disability savings grants and Canada disability savings bonds What are Canada disability savings grants (CDSGs)? The Government of Canada will pay matching grants of 300, 200, or 100 percent, depending on the beneficiary’s family income and the amount contributed. An RDSP can receive a maximum of $3,500 in matching Grants in one year, and up to $70,000 over the beneficiary’s lifetime. A grant can be paid into an RDSP on contributions made to the beneficiary’s RDSP by December 31 of the year the beneficiary turns 49 years old. What are Canada disability savings bonds (CDSBs)? The government will pay income-tested bonds of up to $1,000 a year to low-income Canadians with disabilities, regardless of the amount contributed. The lifetime bond limit is $20,000. A bond can be paid into an RDSP until the year in which the beneficiary turns 49 years old. When are repayments of CDSGs and CDSBs required? All grants and bonds paid into the plan in the ten years preceding one of the following events, must be repaid to the Government of Canada; * the RDSP is terminated (voluntary closure); * the plan is deregistered; * a disability assistance payment is made from the plan; * the beneficiary ceases to be eligible for the disability amount; or * the beneficiary dies. For more information about the grant and bond, visit the Human Resources and Social Development Canada website. Human Resources and Social Development Canada
March 18, 2009
On January 29th, 2009, the Canadian Minister of Health introduced Bill C-6 into the House of Commons. Similar to last year’s Bill C-52, this bill poses a grave threat to the Rights, Freedoms and Democratic processes all Canadians now have. The powers sought after in Bill C-6 again are hidden in what is meant to seem like a much needed Consumer Product Safety Act.
Here's what you can do to protect your rights:
Educate Yourself
· Go to www.billc6.com
· Read bill C-6 on http://www.parl.gc.ca
Get Involved
· Talk to your local press
· Contact your local MP Click here
· Blog and post online about it
· Ask the leaders in your community to get involved
· Contact your MLA
· Tell your friends
· Print off this fact sheet and hand it out in your neighborhood
Please forward this message to all of your concerned friends, family, and community leaders.
brad@canadianrightsandfreedoms.com
March 18, 2009
Mike you raise some valid points; unfortunately, the Board has always set arbitrary and unrealistic guidelines as far as insurable earnings cap, Gross/Net calculation formulae and indexing are concerned. All part and parcel of fulfilling the Boards' true purpose, protecting the employer from assuming their full and true obligation to injured workers. Having said that, until politicians can be convinced to represent all the citizens in their districts rather than just those who contribute to party coffers, we are unlikely to see any change. At the risk of being obvious, the current economic crisis makes any changes that are favorable to workers unlikely.
Personally, I was pleasantly surprised when our current government stuck by their previous plans to give us an additional 2.5%; many previous governments would not have stuck by their promise. This in no way indicates that I think they have redressed the serious losses imposed on injured workers in Ontario by the Friedland formula (and other artifical indexing formulae), just that I believe we should recognise when they do something favorable to us.
March 18, 2009
Hi again, since I am venting, I would like to tell you about another one of my problems with WS&IB calculations.
According to legislature, a maximum amount of benefits is enacted for each year. WS&IB claims this to be a gross amount. This interpretation is false and discriminates.
i.e. Actusl Pre-Accident Earnings (1988) $59,488
Net Pre-Accident Earnings $40,259
90% of Net Pre-Accident Earnings $36,233
Legislated Maximum $35,100
One would believe that I am entitled to $35,100 in benefits annually. In fact I received $22,564. WS&IB claims that this is the maximum and that their calculations are correct, even appeals has ruled so, Tribunal ?.
This incorrect interpretation that the legislated maximum is a gross value leads to discrimination. This is why I claim this: 1) If I had children when I got injured, not Code 1, my maximum would be higher. More children, more benefits. 2) Had I been self-employed, with personal coverage, my maximum would be higher. No UIC deductions. 3) Had I been born native and employed on native land, my maximum would be higher. No Tax deductions. How can 2 injured workers, earning the same at work, receive different amounts of benefits based on family statues or race? This is discriminatory. Only one maximum is legislated, not hundreds as WS&IB claims. Actually, under WS&IB interpretation, an injured worker with $25,000 less in Gross Pre-Accident Earnings can receive more benefits then I. WS&IB has no legal authority to replace my earnings profile to a legislated amount and then remove Taxes, CPP and UIC from this amount. Furthermore, Ontario follows a progressive tax system, meaning that high-end earners are taxed differently then low income earners. This means that WS&IB are mis-representing my real tax situation and therefore, makes a mockery of the intended spirit of the Act, which was to better reflect the earnings loss of a worker. (75% of gross to 90% of net, 1995) This is a social injustice. name : Mike from Sudbury, Ontario mjs.lavoie@sympatico.ca
March 18, 2009
Hi everyone, have you ever wondered why your benefits never seam to be increasing as fast as inflation. Here is my reason and example:
For pre-1990 claims, the provincial government inacted an indexing factor for injured workers benefits. For example, the provincial government recently inacted a 2.5% increase to my Permanent disability pension. Yet when I calculate it, it works out to be a 1.88% increase.
The problem is that WS&IB applies the increase to the gross earnings profile then removes Taxs, CPP and UIC on the increased amount. These benefits are non taxable just like social assistance is non taxable. This means that no one gets the legislated 2.5% increase and the amount increased depends on the amount of children you have, whether you are self employed with personal coverage or you are native. This determines the dedutions from gross earnings.
WS&IB stop taxing non taxable income and pay the increase properly so that every injured worker gets 2.5%. The increase should be applied equally and to the net escallated earnings, not the gross earnings.
Furthermore, according to the pre-90 Act, WS&IB has no legal autority to recalculate, every year, the earnings profile of a worker. One year, they recalculated my earnings profile with a 0% indexing factor. My benefits actualy whent down by about 20 something dollars per month because the tax system had increased the taxs that year.
This is injustice and this affects anyone with a pension.
I hope this will help others in the same situation as me.
name : Mike from Sudbury, Ontario
mjs.lavoie@sympatico.ca
March 17, 2009
RE: MEDICATION FOR INJURED WORKERS, As a consequence of my work injury, I have been taking 3-20 mg pills of oxycontin for relief of the unrelenting pain every 12 hours. 3 spinal injuries and 2 shoulder injuries that workers compensation wouldn't investigate and due to refusal's of physicians requests went undiagnosed, misdiagnosed, and eventually were diagnosed but by that time had developed into chronic pain syndrome. Of course Workers Compensation doesn't recognize Chronic Pain as a disability even though it has been ruled in the Supreme Court of Canada that this is a Violation of the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms. This they do because they feel they have the right to interpret anything they want even if it is against NATURAL JUSTICE;
Therefore, if any injured or disabled workers have been denied their appeal and benefits by violation of their Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms, due to DENIAL of benefits due to CHRONIC PAIN SYNDROME, please contact me as I would like to start a class action lawsuit asap.
wcbclassaction@fastmail.fm
March 17, 2009
Canadian Injured and Disabled workers deserve better treatment than we are getting, I would like to protest and picket in Saskatoon on MARCH 23 / 24, but need someone to watch my back and video tape in case of problems, if anyone is willing to join me please email me?
fixwcbcanada@gmail.com
March 17, 2009
Oh and a few words on my advisors,some of the best on the planet for sure,..my docs...of course[they hate wcb psycho,s]...Dr Doebbler no less,..since 03,..the rcmp,interpol,fbi,microsoft[big bill!!...good guy!!]...had to fire my local lawyer for colluding with the enemy,..extortion....an ugly,ugly crime,...as he is now finding out!!,..turned out he was responsable for the id theft/buddy' scams,..well,...we warned him what would happen,..do the crime??...do the time...its real simple,...and such crimes!!,...a litany of evil!!,...the depths of turpitude!!,...evil personified for sure!!,...but whats this??...well well,...look at all the "buddies"...ha ha,...message for law enforcment types,...go to town!!,dont hold back our acct,..take,burn,sink and destroy!!...we will support you to the hilt!!,..so what if a few took the cash,...statisticly it a very small percentage,...almost all of you resisted[unlike so many in the so called "public world"]...well done indeed!!,...yers Rob.
March 17, 2009
A few words on why I survived,I had a lot of help,good people,honest people,people who are sickened by this corruption and abuse,..real CANADIANS!,..for me the psycho,s never had a chance,we are all struck by this though,..all that planning,..scheming...we have noticed that the perps here always seem to want to be one or two steps ahead of us,..or were I should say,..one message is very,very! clear,...they have done this before!many many times...and they expect the same results as last time,..we are talking psychopaths here so bear with me,..and when this does not happen??...the same results??...they do not know what to do,...think about that for a minute,..if I am the only one,...what happened to all the rest??...hmmm?????anyone???..these are real people we are discussing,they all had lives and families,futures until they were entrapped in the extortion scams at wcb bc,..and what scams they have turned out to be,...international gangs,net crimes,murder and mayhem,...so please understand that while I too want to have a normal life,...I will NEVER! EVER! FORGET THOSE WHO LAYED DOWN THEIR LIVES SO WE CAN HAVE THESE DISCUSSIONS!,....never!!,....I know a lot of you have trouble with these facts we are giving you,its a troubling thing to have to deal with,..its no game and thatsa fact!...so,...pay attention,...we are saving lives here,..dont let the perps sidetrack you to some subject that allows them to escape justice,..stick to the plan!!,...anyone notice that as soon as we named the rcmp as my guys/gals .."someone"...ahem....started a huge effort to trash their rep??...read the papers lately??..there are some well placed perps at all wcb,s Canada wide who specialise in this,..its called wcb legal dept....a nest of vipers for sure!!,...think of all that incriminating evidence they must have no??...these are the "operators" at wcb bc,...the gangsta,s "buddies" if you will,..so,you politico,s out there,..get on the bit or get out,...we have no time for bs games,..not now,not ever!!,...watch it or we will sick Mr Dosanjh on ya,....be scared!!...be very scared,...we are!! coming for you!!...you bet!!,...yers Rob.
March 16, 2009
workplace fatalities,well,this is a subject we have been handling for quite a few years,back to the future no??,...just read in the local rag that the count for loggers here this year is 19,down from 45 a few years back,not due to wcb at all in fact,no employers are taking the matter into their own hands and dealing with the safety issues on the spot,...gudonya we say!!,..still that means once again the freaks at wcb bc are getting someone else not only to do their jobs for them but to absorb all the costs!!,...pretty clever no??...this is what these employees think anyways,we just see more corruption,taking billions from workers[and yes thats our money]using it to finance fat cat lifestyles and perks out the yin yang while sidetracking the issues of responsability and payment,...very much the usual for sure,...this is why no one speaks to the widows,..no one acts for the widows and the kids...infact all this corrupt goverment of bc does is steal the cash,somewhere in excess of 2 billion$$$,and use it for more fat cat games,...the olympics for instance,this is where the money came from,stolen from widows and kids and injured guys like me ,missapropriated by the province[isnt that a crime??...anyone???]...and too bad for us the normal Canadians,...we are only here to feed psychopathic fantasies anyways,didnt ya know that??...while this is surely an importent issue its just another part of the big picture of corruption and abuse,..and what corruption it is!!...no wonder the perps are trying to have me killed,arrested,marginalized,...THEY HAVE A LOT TO HIDE IT SEEMS!!,...no wonder the suicides either,..no wonder wcb employees need protection from the kids and parents they have abused,...tampering with someones family is just asking for it!!,...and by "it" I think we all know what I mean,..unfortunatly for them we have some very good advisors on our side,a bunch of the good guys/gals at work,and their advice has made me the only!! person in Canada who has taken these issues to this level...the rest were murdered by the extortionists and gangsta,s at wcb bc,...killed in cold blood for sure!!sooo....you wcb so called "protection" people,..I have asked you this before,..who,s protection??...mine or yours??...tough one for you no??...the rcmp are coming for you,dirty scammers that you are,..bet on it!!...and nice try with the accusations,...notice we are ready for you??..any of you??...no...that would take brains and we all know wcb compensated psychopaths brains are broken,.,..has to be so they can committ the crimes for their criminal masters,..and the masters,..well,...we think its time we started naming these people in the public forums,..we never "alledge",...we stick to the facts,...this kinda torpedo,s yer dirty little plans does it not??..we have all the info on your networks,...all of it!!,...supplied by yourself no less[those advisors again ha ha]...think your smart do ya??..ha ha,...think away psycho,s,..it will just get us more evidence,..as if we need more,..but know this,...we are going to the top[already there in fact]...sooooo,...anymaways,....names...hmmmm....David anderson[hitman dave]wally oppal,graham bruce,gorden campbell,....lets start with those and see where we go,..every one is either a direct killer or an accessory to it.,...remember...no "alledge"...facts is facts,..and we have trashed yer "buddy" networks for good so dont waste time trying that one....again...where did ya think we got all the juicy information??...so much for "buddies",...it aint rocket science here,....DO YOUR JOB!...PAY YER BILLS...LOSERS!!!!,...and dont waste time on bs games,..you will!! be arrested for them,..we are using the gang laws here for people like you,..3 or more collude in any crime??...thats a gang!!,...get tagged under that law and wave goodby to yer freinds...ahem...and "buddies"...we will not be seeing you for quite some time,...right behind thatis proceeds of crime,..your car,house,truck,boat,savings etc etc,...we are taking it all,..so good luck,...you will need it now!!,...running games on the RCMP[TOUGH JOB-good people!!],...NOT VERY SMART OF YOU!!,...failure brings some pretty serious problems for you compensated psychpaths no??>.you bet!!...and they are going to get a whole lot worse!!,..now you deal with me!...directly!!...and I take no prisoners!...none!!,...better learn to sing them blues,.."oh,my baby left me/havnt got a dime/just got arrested,the mounties think I am slime/....[you are ya know,...slime that is],...I mean,...extoring from the injured,...how impressive!!,...lowlife scumbags is more like it,..as for you widows out there,..whats holding you back??..do a blog,tell the world,..lets have the details please,..name names,...use this web for something good for a change,..its not just for criminals and scammers,..it was made for this ,...for us,...the good guys,..not just for the perps,..from the best if corrupt coast of this great land,...Rob
name : "real" ahem...Rob Lawson
email : @shaw.ca
March 3, 2009
A new committe has been formed dealing with workplace fatalities.
Family members need to know what happened.
Why does the MOL not provide any info to the widows when they are doing their investigations.
The Bill we are working on will be passed on to our MPP and presented to the Legislative Assembly of Ontario, so tha the families can make informed decisions,,,such as the right to sue if there is negligence involved.
To offer your moral support contact, The Workplace Fatalities Family Bill of Right
Thank you.
wffamilybillofrights@gmail.com
February 26, 2009
A word re;"injured worker",...some time ago I had a conversation with a psychopath at wcb bc,..it went something like this;Quote, "who do you think you are?"...well to you I would think I am just another injured CANADIAN,...oh,was the reply,we do not recocnize that!,...how about just another injured WORKER?You "recognize" that though,..oh yes indeed was the reply!,..N White,wcb b.latent c.orruption,...sooo,...I am not a Canadian,...but some kind of "injured worker"...wassup with this??...where oh where do they find these creatures???...and where does anyone!...PERIOD!!,..get off denying my Canadian citizenship??...I have this on tape so,hey,facts is facts!!....your shirt should?? read,..:WE SCREW INJURED CANADIANS BEST...just a thought,..yers Rob.
February 26, 2009re;"we screw injured workers best,....not bad!!...language..eh?eh? eh?...ha ha,...yers Rob.oh and watch for "gangsta,s get theirs" in B.latent C.orruption,...the gangsta,s in question are all centered at wcb bc,...sooo,...not sure if this helps??..think again!!,...R.
February 17, 2009
Hello all, long time since I have posted here,don't see how it helps to get our cause into the public domain.Only injuried workers & wsib employees bother to come here.I can tell you what wsib dozen't like, its to see people out protesting.I had T-shirts made that have WSIB is legalized fraud on the front & We Screw Injuried workers Best on the back.Within 20 minutes of walking back & forth in front of the WSIB office with my T-shirt on,a wsib employee came down from the 5th floor to see if I would like to go up there to talk with some-one.I believe he just wanted to get me off the street.You have to shove it into canadians faces to get the injustice to light.I had 10 shirts made at a cost of 8 bucks each.If any-one from Sudbury,Ontario would like one,I would give you one for free if you come out on the day of Morning for Injuried & Dead Workers on the 28th of April.I can be reached at(705)692-7087 or if you are willing to wear it in public.I always meet new people that feel the same way when I wear mine in public.And for those of you that have a spinal injury I have found that an inversion table has helped.Check with your doctor and you need good ankles and knees to hang upside down.
Mike Beauchamp
February 18, 2009
so,the 5 w,s,where were we??...well,...this will work in both directions,lets suppose you are confronted by a wcb extortion "expert",...ask!!,...who??...what??..why?? where?? when??,...who for instance,..who are you[state name and credentials if any...unlikely but you must ask]...what is this about,what do you want what is in this for you?? etc etc,??...why??...why am I here?? why are you lieing??why are you asking questions re medical care when you have no proper credentials??..etc etc,..where??...when,...and so on and so on,...the message is this,..do not be afraid,be assertive,...its your right as a Canadian to ask these questions,and recieve truthfull,honest answers,...watch for the angry types,...this is an immediate flag,...PSYCHOPATH!!,...take precautions[record them for sure,report threats to the rcmp,ANY THREATS!!,...when one has id,d a psychopath[regardless of the what they say]...inform them of such,tell them in no uncertain terms that they are forbidden to access your!! confidential information as it WILL BE USED BY CRIMINAL GANGS!!,...expect some kind of extortion attempt,and the longer your ...ahem..."battle" ahem...with the nutbars,the worse the extortion will be!!,..yes they will target you in your weak moments[hospitals are a favorite for them],yes they will target your wife and kids[of course!!]yes they will;lie cheat,steal,murder if you get too close to the kickback schemes[the real reason for all this crime!!],...thats the reality of what we deal with daily,..A quote from one of my most excellent docs seems appropriate at this point,..1990,Dr Y,Victoria bc,orthopod,..."these people are going to kill you,if you are going to survive your serious injuries,you need to hide until your crisis is over[ten years or so] then you will be able to deal with them,after you recover," end quote,....sooo....this is what you are dealing with,...IF ANY OF YOU AT ANY TIME EVER THOUGHT ANY WCB BC EMPLOYEE WAS THERE TO "HELP" YOU,allow me to relieve you of your confusion,...NO THEY ARE NOT!!,..THEY WANT THE MONEY AND THE POWER AND SATISFACTION OF DESTROYING ANOTHER HUMAN BEING....plain and simple!!...they will kill you if they can and have to,...but for them its better if you live in poverty and confusion,then you are vulnerable,and can be extorted at will without repercusions for the extorters,..by the way,...rcmp has all the names of "THEY"...addresses as well as phone numbers,..I use this term only as a security measure so I am not putting investigators at risk,..the name of the game for any wcb employee is to get between you and the funds that are available for your medical care and the care of you and your wife and kids,....thats all!!!...they are not doctors!!...ask any wcb employee of the documents they have to sign when they get the job...the TOTAL FOCUS!! is on protecting wcb from prosecution,....TOTAL!!,...not one reg is there to protect us injured,...NOT ONE!!,...not one is there for the protection of our children[rrrrather the opposite in fact],...its a crime club!!...plain and simple,..and get this,..a crime clubbe connected to the worst gangs in Canada!!....of course, gangs love extortion,..easy money for them,..easy money for the wcb employee,s as well,...they use the "buddy system" to get paid,..and then use their "buddies" to harrass the legitimate injured,...and sick f*#@s,these people are for sure!!,...be carefull out there ,its a nasty old world ...at times,..remember this,...assertive!!...not aggressive!!,...and for gods sake,...use the 5 w,s,...me??...I would suck the farts out of a dead dogs #ss....if it works!!,...you bet!!,..so should you,...you injured are caught up in a criminal extortion gang at the time when you are most vulnerable,...and apperently??...these gangs have created for themselves,...LEGAL CARTE BLANCHE!!,...be scared!!...it will save your life,and your family,...this is no game here,...its life and death,..if you have to hide to save your life,...do it!!...you are no good to anyone as a pile of ashes[least of all your kids!!]...this is not for those who have minor injuries,..rather it is for those who are seriously injured to the point you will not be able to work anymore without risk,...you are the "money tree" to the criminals,..and wcb bc is the weapon of choice for them all,..legalized murder you say??...yes it is,...eugenics you also say??...yes indeed[an ugly,ugly word for sure,but accurate],...if you want to help us who are for the now at the pointed end of the stick,...do this,..speak out!!,..everywhere and anywhere,to anyone at any time,...use the net[we do!!]...make it socialy unacceptable for these crimes to continue,make it legaly impossible for the perps to escape justice!![this is for you lawyers out there],..we have already made huge strides,..but while any wcb in Canada exists,...we will never,ever,stop!!...never!!,...there is really only one solution,...disband ALL WCB,S...RIGHT NOW!!,...then,give it to the docs[of course!!] charge all employers a fee based on the risk,send ALL THAT MONEY DIRECTLY TO THE MEDICAL WORLD...DIRECTLY!!!,...its a standing temptation to criminals for that money to be any other way,..rarely resisted as well,..lets let my doc decide my injuries[credentials anyone??]...not some criminals cousin or brother,sister,..buddy...or whatever],...we have told them in no uncertain terms,...and I quote!!,..."the next time I or ANY ONE OF MY MOST EXCELLENT MEDICAL PROFFESSIONALS want medical advice of the "readers digest' variety,WE WILL ASK!!,....in the meantime,...do your job[industrial safety,period!!]...PAY YOUR BILLS!!...LOSERS!!,..."readers digest"??...not bad eh??eh?? ha ha,...yers from the corruption capitol of Canada,..B.latant C.orruption,..."real" Rob Lawson.ps,yes the rcmp will check you out if you use my e mail,..if you are ok then well,..ok,...if not,...Run!!,..dont stop!! dont look back!!,we WILL BE THERE!!,..you bet,...right behind the rcmp,csis,fbi,interpol....and please...no anger,..solutions are what we need,..got any??..yers R.
[they want me to change providers.Hmmm???]...
r.c.lawson@shaw.ca
January 20, 2009
soooo,here we are again,ha ha,hmmmm....article,florida today,subject,...the 5 w.s,...it seems that in florida wcb or whatever they call it there,has been using our strategy for quite a while with serious results,..since applying this tactic they have reduced ALL WCB CLAIMS FROM START TO RESULTS FROM 120 DAYS TO 34 DAYS!!!!,....yes indeed,...the facts win every time!!thats a significant reduction,also using this 5 w,s deal has also reduced the number of false claims and even better,...WCB EMPLOYEE CORRUPTION!!!....WELL DONE YOU YANKS!!!
HA HA,..what is this???,...simple really,...be ruthlessly honest...answer the 5 w,s[who,what,why,where,when,not neccessarily in that order],...act on the info,...start with what you do know...again,...be brutally honest with yourself,...and the rest will come with the answers,...we have been using this for years,..at least 15,..its simple really,...reality wins!!...hands down!!...every time!!!...looks like corruption??...check it out...in my case it sure is!!was??...hmmm???...oh,and yes I am back,..been taking a break down south,...making connections,..one thing about those yanks,...they are not afraid to act,...unlike so many here in Canada,...ah weeeeel,...cowards run I say,...a sure sign!!,..here in b.astard c.orruption that lesson is in the works,...and yes this province is the corruption capitol of this great land,..and yes wcb bc is where the local ahem "politico,s"...ahem....park their corrupt "buddies"...until needed that is!!...hence the title,.."le clubbe de psycho"....yeah,...psycho all right!!,...big time psycho,s!!,..they are scared wittless[no great feat] of exposure,..ha ha,...yeah,...wellll....no doubt!!,...shoulda thotta that before ya committed the crimes,..duhhhh!!!,...its really quite simple,...DO THE CRIME??...DO THE TIME!!...and dont come whining at us when not if you are caught,...WE DO NOT WANT TO HEAR IT...LOSERS!!,...NO EXCEPTIONS!!...THE LAW IS THE LAW....PERIOD!!,..yers Rob.
name : "real rob" Lawson
@shaw.ca
December 16, 2008
Merry Christmas to all injured workers and families, I hope everybody will join in the Rally's this coming year that is planned at the offices's of WCB and the Legislature.
For far to long now injured workers have been trampled into the ground by Workers Compensation and their QUEST to deny injured workers their health recovery and any benefits that they are owed.
Name: WCBvictim
December 16, 2008
For those of you who have had claims illegally denied or illegally accepted, here are some good examples of how the courts determine causation. Gerry Miller
http://www.dol.gov/brb/References/Reference_works/lhca/lsdesk/DBSEC2.pdf
December 9, 2008
Here are the links for the poverty reduction strategy. As we all know, injured workers far too often fall into poverty at no fault of their own and become some of the most vulnerable citizens out there! Please pass this information on to anyone you may feel may benefit from this information.
Wendy Knelsen, Facilitator
London & Middlesex Injured Workers & Repetitive Strain Injury Support & Information Group
London Occupational Safety & Health Information Services
wendy33@execulink.com
Hello everyone, As you likely know, the government has just released its Poverty Reduction Strategy. You can get a copy at the government's website at www.Ontario.ca/breakingthecycle
I have cut-and-pasted below the text of the ISAC press release in response. It will be up on our website later this afternoon. You may also want to look at the 25 in 5 Network response on their website, at www.25in5.ca
. Their release will likely go out at the same time as their press briefing, which is at 2:30pm. Cheers, Jennefer Poverty Plan Moves to Review Social Assistance: Incomes Must Also Be Improved Toronto – The Poverty Reduction Strategy released by government today takes a first crucial step toward repairing Ontario’s broken Social Assistance system, says the Income Security Advocacy Centre. “We applaud the government for meeting its commitment to introduce a poverty reduction plan,” said Mary Marrone, Director of Advocacy & Legal Services. “But we are particularly encouraged by the recognition that OW and ODSP are not equipped to meet the goal of poverty reduction in Ontario. We can’t make progress on poverty reduction with programs that systematically undermine the people they’re supposed to be helping.” Ontario Works and the Ontario Disability Support Program are the province’s income support programs, introduced by the Harris government in the late 1990s. Advocates, activists, policy experts, and people receiving benefits have criticized these programs as punitive, counterproductive, and lacking the supports that people need to live with dignity and move out of poverty. Today’s announcement also includes interim measures to improve the current programs by changing three restrictive rules, and introducing a person-centred approach to social programs. “The rule changes are a good start, and a person-centred approach will mean people will begin to be treated with respect,” said Marrone. “We look forward to working with government to ensure their review processes include the participation of people on social assistance. They understand better than anyone else the negative impact of these counterproductive programs.” The next step will be to get more money into the pockets of people on OW and ODSP. Economists around the world – from the IMF to the United Nations – recommend investing in poverty reduction to stimulate the economy by increasing demand. “Not only is it the right thing to do to alleviate people’s hardship, it’s what local economies need,” said Marrone. “The increase to the Ontario Child Benefit will be good for people with children. But we’ll continue to press government to make investments so that people who don’t have children – who are currently the most economically deprived – also see some relief.” Media Contact: Mary Marrone at 416-523-5228 (cell)
Hello everyone, As you likely know, the government has just released its Poverty Reduction Strategy. You can get a copy at the government's website at www.Ontario.ca/breakingthecycle
I have cut-and-pasted below the text of the ISAC press release in response. It will be up on our website later this afternoon. You may also want to look at the 25 in 5 Network response on their website, at www.25in5.ca
. Their release will likely go out at the same time as their press briefing, which is at 2:30pm. Cheers, Jennefer Poverty Plan Moves to Review Social Assistance: Incomes Must Also Be Improved Toronto – The Poverty Reduction Strategy released by government today takes a first crucial step toward repairing Ontario’s broken Social Assistance system, says the Income Security Advocacy Centre. “We applaud the government for meeting its commitment to introduce a poverty reduction plan,” said Mary Marrone, Director of Advocacy & Legal Services. “But we are particularly encouraged by the recognition that OW and ODSP are not equipped to meet the goal of poverty reduction in Ontario. We can’t make progress on poverty reduction with programs that systematically undermine the people they’re supposed to be helping.” Ontario Works and the Ontario Disability Support Program are the province’s income support programs, introduced by the Harris government in the late 1990s. Advocates, activists, policy experts, and people receiving benefits have criticized these programs as punitive, counterproductive, and lacking the supports that people need to live with dignity and move out of poverty. Today’s announcement also includes interim measures to improve the current programs by changing three restrictive rules, and introducing a person-centred approach to social programs. “The rule changes are a good start, and a person-centred approach will mean people will begin to be treated with respect,” said Marrone. “We look forward to working with government to ensure their review processes include the participation of people on social assistance. They understand better than anyone else the negative impact of these counterproductive programs.” The next step will be to get more money into the pockets of people on OW and ODSP. Economists around the world – from the IMF to the United Nations – recommend investing in poverty reduction to stimulate the economy by increasing demand. “Not only is it the right thing to do to alleviate people’s hardship, it’s what local economies need,” said Marrone. “The increase to the Ontario Child Benefit will be good for people with children. But we’ll continue to press government to make investments so that people who don’t have children – who are currently the most economically deprived – also see some relief.” Media Contact: Mary Marrone at 416-523-5228 (cell)
December 9, 2008
I send greetings to you every one... all my injured brothers and sisterers greetings to you all. I hope your pain and suffering is not acerbic and your fight is to recover and regain the best of your health in the face of your injury.
Together we will show the injustice of a system that lets employees of WSBC compound injustice upon injury to the hard working people of this province in this grate country that many an injured person obtained thru their place of work or directly on the job. Thru the result of my injury at my place of employment I have begun a journey for compensation with WSBC. The point that I am trying to get across to you is simply that we need to unite against the corrupted people who put barrieres and distance in our way to enjoy what life has left to offer us...by their lies and their actions. My intention is to exspose the truth hidden by those who stand to twist the facts and hide the evidence to deceive us with their intention to deny our rightfull claims to protect ourself from loss of Life, Love and Happiness. This cannot continue...and together we can make a difference in the fight we all face. If you can count yourself in and fight together with me...for you and for me we can and will will fight for others and together we can and will change the status quo and bring dignity with respect to people effected by the decisions made in conection to and with the WSBC board.
Please write...and together we will make a difference.
In a spirit of cooperation together
We can build bridges that span the barriers and distance that exist between us all.
THE WORKERS VOICE
name : Gary Chamberlain
the_guardian@shaw.ca
December 3, 2008
Many IW's will know the story of injured trucker Bhupinder Singh Kang who after an 8-yr. battle with WorkSafe BC, ended his life in suicide in 2006. Below is a link to the story for those unfamiliar with his circumstances.
As indicated in this story, Mr. Kang's lawyer had insisted on a coroner's inquest into his suicide. For the past couple years I've routinely searched for follow-up information in this regard, and have recently found it. You'll also find this update using the link below.
There's little doubt in most minds that WorkSafe BC was instrumental in this man's death, if not directly responsible. Here's hoping that the BC Coroner's Office will find the same.
http://tombrownskwcb.tripod.com/id21.html
Tom Brown
________________________
Injured Worker/Advocate
iw_help@hotmail. com
http://tombrownskwcb.tripod.com/id21.html
http://tombrownskwcb.tripod.com/id21.html
December 1, 2008
The article of young teenage kids, of allowing only one kid in the car, that the Mcquinty government wants to pass, sure got the eyes of these morans that run our country its called FACEBOOK maybe we should get the same thing going against WSIB. It sure got the attention of a lot of people especially the government.
November 19, 2008
This will help some out. and Remember
You are not a PERSON you have a PERSON and that is the name the Province created for you on your Birth Certificate.
It is your signiture that creates the money for the banks to lend you.
Cheers and Merry Christmas
marks6365
Qualifying Questions for Collection Agents
PREAMBLE:
This document is designed to provide you with some minimum level of education and enable you to effectively deal with a telephone call that you may receive from a Collection agency for any reason. Some of the potential calls you may receive as a result of you being unable to pay credit cards, unsecured loans, and a variety of others.
Essentially, it does not matter why you receive a call from a collector, what is important to realize, is that banks and other institutions that extend credit, will almost always turn the collection of the debt over to a Collection agency.
This is done by one of two main processes. One, is that the bank (Credit Card Company) sells the debt to the Collection agency for a percentage of the alleged debt, such a 20% or 30%. The details are not important, simply the understanding of the process is what is important.
The second method is that the debt is assigned to the Collection agency with the understanding that they will receive a certain percentage of what they are able to collect.
The important point to understand is that these people can be dealt with, using their own laws and rules, and that is what this document assists you in accomplishing.
IDENTITY:
1. May I have your name please? (can you spell it)
2. Is this your contact name or your birth name?
3. Who do you work for? (obtain complete information of the company he/she works for)
4. Are you licensed?
5. Have you meet all requirements of the licence? (They MUST inform the ministry within 5 days when they change employer, Collection agencies cannot threaten consumers)
6. May I have your licence number?
7. Are you making this call bearing in mined that you and your company are bound by all Rules, Regulations and Acts and if you do not honour them, YOU personally become liable?
8. Who is your Limited liability Insurance with? OR Who insures you in the event you are sued as a Collector, Employee, Agent?
9. May I have your policy number?
10. May I have your insurers address and phone number for verification, please?
11. What this call is about? (Get details of the claim.)
12. Do YOU have the COMPLETE file related to this MATTER in front of you?? (for validation purposes)
13. Can I have;
o Creditor's name (verify spelling and if it is All Upper case)?
o Debtor's name (verify spelling and if it is All Upper case)?
o Amount of alleged debt?
14. Are you or your company the creditor?
o If YES: Please mail a certified true and complete copy of the contract, complete with the name and address of the company signing the communication papers, in order that the alleged debtor can correspond with someone in authority and familiar with this claim.
o If NO; Why are YOU calling? (Find out if they are acting for claimant or if they have purchased the claim/alleged contract)
§ If they purchased: Ask if the Debtor (you) was notified before they purchased the debt? And request certified proof of it.
§ If they are calling on behalf: Ask them to provide a certified copy of the agreement signed by the principal party of the alleged Creditor!
§ Are you aware if there is any dispute between alleged Creditor and Alleged Debtor?
· If NO; Are you acting on ASSUMPTIONS AND PRESUMPTIONS?
· If YES: Are you authorized to settle the dispute? (ask for verification)
15. Are you BOUND BY the code of ethics for Ontario's collection agencies set-out by The Collection Agencies Act?
16. Put Agent/Agency company on notice:
o Not to call any more
o Only communicate by mail.
o All correspondence MUST be signed by an officer of the company.
o They ARE requested to provide certified complete and true copies of document "VALIDATING" their claim.
o Of your FEE SCHEDULE
o That by them NOT honouring this request and NOT providing proof of their claim, shall constitute their acceptance of an agreement with the terms and conditions of a contract, the terms of which are to pay you in accordance with your FEE SCHEDUALE and the total discharge of the alleged claim, without recourse.
WHAT IS YOUR AUTHORITY?
1. Collection agencies cannot threaten consumers.
2. They must not engage in prohibited practices and methods of collecting money.
3. They're required to follow a code of ethics outlined under Ontario's Collection Agencies Act.
4. Know your rights to help you deal with collection agencies in the future.
5. You must be notified in writing at your last known address when a creditor assigns your overdue account to an agency for collection.
6. The collection agency may not recommend or initiate legal action on the collection of a debt without first notifying the debtor.
7. Before a collector demands payment, you must be given the creditor's name or the name of the people allegedly owed money, the name of the collection agency and the amount owed. This allows you to ensure the account information is correct.
8. The agency cannot continue to demand payment from a person who claims not to owe the money.
9. Collection calls may not be made on a Sunday, statutory holiday or on any day before 7:00 a.m. or after 9:00 p.m.
10. Agencies may not make telephone calls of such a nature or frequency that constitute harassment of you or your family, this includes repeated calls at your workplace.
11. Keep a record of the date, time and frequency of calls if you believe you are being harassed.
12. This information may be necessary if you wish to file a formal complaint to the Ministry.
13. Collection agencies are generally not permitted to contact a debtor's friends, relatives, neighbors or employer for any information other than your address or telephone number (with limited exceptions). Agencies may not imply or give false information to any person that could damage the debtor or debtor's family.
November 19, 2008
Merry HO HO Ho! Tis the season to be up for reviewal! I guess they don't send your bi-weekly allowance when that happens. I hope the bill collectors can understand this one. How can I get a job if there is no money to go get one? How can they phone if I get an interview if I can not pay my phone bill. How can I apply when I don't have the means to get to the places hiring? These are just obvious questions one would like answers for! This WSIB is a big joke. They say they can not afford to keep people living on comp. I say we can't afford to live on comp. I would earn more on welfare. At least I'd have dental. I'm listed as partially disabled because I can still talk & walk. Arm, shoulder & neck injury here. Anyone hiring?
November 05, 2008
Fellow Injured Workers:
Under both "The Occupational Health & Safety Act", and "The Criminal Code of Canada", employers are required to practice "Due Diligence" in the workplace. That is to say that by law, they are required to provide a healthy, and safe work environment. In the event they do not, they can be held criminally responsible for any and all injuries/damages that result from this.
Below is a link to a story of an injured worker who despite his chronic use of a prescribed narcotic (Morphine), WCB has deemed him capable of full-time employment, and significantly reduced his benefits as a result. Clearly no employer can hire this man due to the obvious safety risks associated with his medication.
If you are an injured worker in this situation, please feel free to contact me. I have invaluable information that will not only stop such wage deeming, but assist you in recovering past deductions in this respect. In certain situations either myself, and/or the advocate mentioned in this story, will appeal this issue on your behalf.
http://tombrownskwcb.tripod.com/id30.html
Tom Brown
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Injured Worker/Advocate (Saskatchewan) iw_help@hotmail.com
Tom Brown
__________________________________
Injured Worker/Advocate (Saskatchewan) iw_help@hotmail.com
November 03, 2008
Please!Please!..DO BE CAREFULL!!you,the average unjured have no idea the depths of the corruption at ALL WCB,S CANADA WIDE!!!,...its,far,far worse than any of us imagined,..there is a criminal underworld involved,with the apperant blessing of the provinces[they split the "take"],...that is as dirty as it gets,...they will;lie,cheat,steal,murder,...especially if you get close to their scumbag kickback schemes,..the "buddies" at work,...dont trust any wcb employee!!...EVER!!!!,...tell them why,...be assertive not aggressive,there is a difference!!,...and yes!...we do need to stand together...ALL OF US!!...and yes,...right now!!!,...use your voice!!,...make some noise!!,...contact the feds,...report all crimes to them,not the provinces,..no use asking the perps to "investigate" themselves,...thatsa gonna work!!...NOT!!!!,...where did you all think all that cash$$$$$[billions] was going to??...criminals thats where!!,..and thatsa fact!!,...been there,done that,got the t-shirt!!!...to prove this!!,...get angry!...then get even!!,...yours from the corruption capitol of this great, great land, b.latant c.orruption,...
name : "real" ahem...Rob Lawson @shaw.ca
name : "real" ahem...Rob Lawson @shaw.ca
October 21, 2008
To all the injured workers, Justice is our reward we are a strong and mighty force to be recon with and together our VOICE will bring the victory of change. Together we stand united under one VOICE calling "devided we fall" and are trampled by each others feet.
Look up its not our fault we did not chose to be put to the test but we must stand together thru storms of abuce as we contiue down the dificult road.
Those who know that compensation never covers the loss of dignity that comes form no longer having the ability to work at a job we may have done for our life and the dispair one feels by the look in the eyes of their child...I can imagine that must be a hard one to swallow... and force one self to push on another day thru the pain to keep food and a roof over head some of the storie are as harsh as harsh and as hard as can be imagined...and fully desserving of the benafits that shoud be there in times of need...There is a way to turn the tide and change the corce and bring justice to the the cause we all seek toghter we can pull our wait and make all see our worth and we demand our worth together.
together We can build bridges to span the distence and the barriers that exist betwen us all...lets raze our VOICE Together we stand devided we fall.
I call you to raze your spirit to unite with a cause that is right... inspite of all they have placed in our way...
We will stand and count ourself in... a fight we know we will win... stand with me and call me your friend... and with you I will stant to the end...compensated we recover and mend...lets tell the system it our moeny they spend. lets show our demaned lets draw a line in the sand...lets say the buck it stops here...lets raze our glass as we chear for all with a ear let them hear "OUR VOICE'
thats our demand.
the_guardian@ shaw.ca
October 21, 2008
To all the injured workers, the time has come to unite under one VOICE and stand together, if you can stand up for your rirht stand up...and if your injurey stops you from standing then raze you hand if you can...and if not raze your VOICE We do not have to take this and that...We are the ones who built this Country we are the ones who gave...our time and efort health and taxs...we gave...And it was taken from us...we stand by knowing injured workers, are suffering shuffled abuse and we see it...and do nothing but fallow the trail. NOW lets use the trail of the injoured worker to exspose the abuse contained with in. The movement THE WORKERS VOICE will not rest when injustice follows neglect...justice must stand on its own with the VOICE that demands fair and honest people recognize abuse...and procted people when they go thru a change in their lives...do to the cause of their workplace injury and the abuse that fallows...I know even thou we do not know each other...our gole is the same. And we will succeed in exspoing the rong together we stand in spirit and sole...with intention to bring forth onnor to the hurt and the injoured worker.
In a spirit of cooperation,
May we build bridges, to span the barriers and the distence, that stands between us all. "THE WORKERS VOICE"
name : G-NOTE
the_guardian@ shaw.ca
October 1, 2008
re;how can goverment employee,s act/condone this?.....they are in the money loop,thats how!,..all govements....all across this great land!...have been infiltrated by criminal gangs,and wcb,s are the conduit,its how "they" get in.In fact it has been proven conclusivly,...wcb bc is where the province of b.latant c.orruption parks its criminal gang members,until needed!!,...think they only abuse us injured??...think again!,...for them,abusing and killing the injured is a part of how the province "pays" them.These creatures get off on mentaly abusing the injured,in fact they are specialy chosen for their psychopathology,...no empathy...is important to those who do the abusing,..no normal person could or would agree to do these things,..and know this....they network!!...you,the injured Canadian,...are flagged for abuse,right from the moment you are "deemed"??...a permenently injured Canadian...flagged for abuse....hey,wait a moment....where am I??...is this some ratbag third world country??...Iran??Iraq??...saudi arabia??...perhaps?....or is this Canada??...MY CANADA!...YOUR CANADA??...OUR CANADA??....is the rule of law paramount??...or is it only for the abusers??...yes,...cowards run alright,...itsa sure sign!!,...get angry people!!,...then get even!!,...and try not to wallow in the anger,..once,maybe twice is understandable,...more is wallowing,...act!!...even your worst effort is better than nothing,..speak out....use every tool at your disposal,..this is war!!,..and we...WE EH!!....are the GOOD GUYS,...we wear the white hat here...remember this,...its empowering!!,...take back your personal power,by whatever means is available!!,...and never!...EVER!!...give it up again!,...certainly not to some credentialless incompetant,gang infested,"clubbe",...ala,..."le clubbe de psycho",..as we here in this corrupt province call wcb,s....very well put..I have been told,...yes well,...language is so important,how you say something is as important as what you say,...get the facts,...then act!!...you may be surprised what happens now,..this aint the "old days"...its not even 04,..its NOW!!,...as Oscar Wilde once said,..."it is useless to reflect on the past,unless it is pleasant"...remember also,...its you!!!...THE INJURED CANADIAN!!...that holds the power here,...not the psycho,gang members at wcb bc,..or any other for that matter,...although,.."rumour" has it the Yukon is ok,...too small to get away with the crimes there i suppose,..and they have tried to act,..which is more than we can say for all the others,..the worst wcb list??...b.c,[by far the worst!]...alberta...saskatchewan,ontario,newfoundland[of course!]manitoba,then quebec,last,nova scotia,...in that order,...the gangs are centered in bc,..and have infiltrated goverment to a very high level,..very high!!,..they are ripping billions of $$$$ out of the public purse,...and also,...a certain bank of a "royal" nature,..is where they have been "cleaning" the dirty money,..move to the scotia,...now!!,...and tell them why!!,..vote with your feet,...believe me,...they[the "royal" people]...are aware...now!!,...the pen is indeed a powerfull tool!!,...hope this helps,...yers from the best coast,..Rob
name : "real" ahem...Rob Lawson
r.c.lawson@shaw.ca.
September 2, 2008
re.class action suits,...this is all very well,but be aware,suing is playing into the criminals game,its not that you can not sue,bad faith almost demands it,..but that doing so will immedialty and for the future limit your legal avenues for redress,...if money is the ultimo,then by all means go for it,the more the merrier for sure,...but if you want justice!!,and a growing number of us want just that,..sueing takes the "appropriate authoritie,s"[read RCMP/CSIS] out of the picture,...they will not act for you the victim,if a lawsuit is under way,they do not want to get involved at the money level,dont blame them myself,thats where all the nutbars are at,[not everyone is one of "them"]...Justice!!...that rarest of situations,at least in Canada,...if we get all the criminals via justice,then all the class actions will be unnecessary,..NO MORE EVIL IN CANADA,S MEDICAL WORLD!!,...yes thats something worth fighting for,...no its not for everyone,especialy if you are taken up at the time dealing with severe injuries and their effects.we are so close to slamming the door on the perps at this time,..have ALL!! the facts,and yes some are rather hard to digest[unless you are a psychopath,then,hey nonny no?]...but its the truth!...THE FACTS WIN! HANDS DOWN! EVERY TIME!!,...regardless of how "uncomfortable" they make one "feel"...one thing we long termers see again and again is an enourmous effort to seperate you,the injured Canadian,from the facts,sure you get bs out the yin yang,..but the facts,...well,...the psychopaths have an enourmous fear that you,the injured Canadian,..will "somehow??"...be empowered to the extent that they[the perps } are unneccesary.This is the main reason to ask anyone who has access to YOur!!! confidential medical information,...for credentials,..and again,,,no credentials or the wrong ones??...NO "OPINION!"...PERIOD!!,...AND YES...NO MEANS NO!!,...after all its a mono sylable,...no further "explanation"...ahem,...required....JUST DO IT!!,...the "good guys/gals,will love you for doing this,..the "bad guys/gals,...will hate you for it,...but at least you will know who is good ...and the best part,...WHO IS NOT!!,...and can then act accordingly,...the response goes something like this,...ahem,..."You do not have the right credentials,so I[the injured canadian] specifacly deny you any access to my medical world,at any time, anywhere!,AND ANY ATTEMPTS TO ACCESS MY MEDICAL WORLD WILL BE TREATED AS THE SERIOUS CRIME IT IS",..assertive...not aggressive[and yes psychopaths are aggressive,...its one of Dr R Hares, well known flags for this type of mental illness} be prepared,tests have shown the incidence of psychopathology at ALL WCB,S ...CANADA WIDE!,..is somewhere around the 90% mark,..and yes thats accurate data,...I for one am not at all surprised this is so,..for the last 8 years or so for me its been 100%,...but then "they"...ahem...know if I survive.they go down!!,...ah weeeeel, I say,...DO THE CRIME??...DO THE TIME!!...LOSERS!!,..,and dont come whining at me when,not if ,you get caught red handed,[very,very red handed!!]....murdering scum that you are!!,..and,...another??...message for Mr Anderson here in b.astard c.riminal,...when I send you a document,I expect to recieve a response from you!!...not one of your hired,psychopaths,...compensated psychopaths in fact,..as are you!!...PSYCHO BOY!!,..K-MART LOSER!!,...go back to K-mart,...where you belong,..after you get out of jail that is!!,...remember this davey boy,...YOU!...AND YES WE MEAN YOU!!...ARE RESPONSABLE!!,...the buck stops at your chair,...what a coward!!,..running away are we??...how disgusting!!,..BUT PREDICTABLE!!,..get with it,or get out!,before its too late![in fact it already is too late},colluding with known gang members !!,...hmmmm,...what does this say about you dave??[note no caps for the perps?]....did ya really think we did not know??..ha ha,...thanx for the evidence...ha ha,..yers from the corruption capitol of Canada,..b.latant c. orruption,.."real" ahem...Rob lawson[yes caps for me!!]ps,...we know about the raises for the psycho perps,...you know you are "toast" so are pumping up your pensions[how disgusting!!],..remember this,...we can take them away at any time!!...and yes we are going to!!...no "cash in" for criminals,..not any more,..never again!!,...and know this,,,NO SECRETS!!...NONE!!!,...we are coming for you!!!,..BETTER PUT ON YER BEST PAIR OF SNEAKERS,STRAP EM ON TITE...AND RUN!!...RUN!!...AND DONT STOP OR LOOK BACK,...WE WILL BE THERE!!,...and trust me on this,...you do not want to fall into our hands,..no mercy for the perps,...NONE!!,...Yers Rob.
name : r.c.lawson
@shaw.ca
August 26, 2008
re;goverment tools,....yes indeed!,...ask your fipp people in whatever province this,..."tell me about being a "named requestor".....expect the usual bs,...they will lie for sure!,...never the less,...what this means is that the provinces? routinely ask for and get the names of "contentious cases",...and then that info is fed to the gangs for enforcment!,...remember,this is experience speaking,...been there,done that....got the t-shirt,...more collusion with criminal gangs with DIRECT CONNECTIONS TO NOT ONLY WCB,S BUT AT THE LEGISLATURE AS WELL!!!,...more proof of criminal intent,...and ...is not naming someone as "contentious"...especialy if untrue,...id theft!!,....seems like it to me and many others,...the message is,...trust no-one who has any contact whatsoever with ANY!!! wcb ....CANADA WIDE!!!!,....remember...assertive not aggressive,...there is a diference,..good luck...yers Rob,
name : "real" rob lawson not the cop killer these creatures convinced CANADA I was!!!
r.c.lawson@shaw.ca email
name : "real" rob lawson not the cop killer these creatures convinced CANADA I was!!!
r.c.lawson@shaw.ca email
August 19, 2008
INJURED IN SASKATCHEWAN; YOU STATE YOU HAVE BOTH FILES; WHY DON'T YOU PUT IT ON THE WEBSITE' INJURED WORKERS ALL ACROSS CANADA.
You have the paperwork to prove to all that GOVERNMENT COLLUSION is rampant in the workers CON-pensation system. I personally think that with the information that you have SASKATCHEWAN PEOPLE deserve to know everything that has happened to you, and what could easily happen to them.
I personally think that you should immediately file a lawsuit against SASKATCHEWAN GOVERNMENT - SASKATCHEWAN WORKERS CON-PENSATION- and everyone else who has given you the run-around.
If you need help, getting closure with your ordeal, email me and we will get you JUSTICE. (BE FOREWARNED THAT YOUR LIFE WILL BE PLACED UNDER A MICROSCOPE.) CAN YOU HANDLE ALL THIS STRESS!
For all other Saskatchewan injured workers who have been subjected to this abusive and insane power hungry system of DENIAL.
The class action lawsuit is coming very soon, to be included you must have first exhausted all levels of APPEAL, (this is very important as the judge and jury will not hear your case unless you have tried all avenues open to you)
For all the rest of you who have sent me your stories of abuse and negligence we plan to very soon register this class action in Saskatchewan. The people of this province have a right to know how TAXPAYERS MONEY is being used to treat work injuries that WCB CON ARTISTS have denied treatment for.
I personally hope for everyone's benefit, that you will take this first step in exposing the corruption that exists in SASKATCHEWAN.
Bruce
fixwcbcanada@gmail.com
August 14, 2008
I have my files the real one(letter heads and signatures)I also have the sask wcbs altered version that they have been trying to pass as the original,there is a vast difference in the two. I have a scanner and I am going to put it all on the internet.Failing to get it back from me the sask wcb threatened me.I dont like being threatened by organized criminals the same I suppose as the allies didnt like the axis threats.This site is excellent but I suppose they cant take a chance on a lawsuit.I on the other hand could care less. After all my file is in the sask wcbs own words so why would a branch of my government want to cover up
August 14, 2008
I have read the entries in question,I do not see the term.."give up" used in this context,...rather the idea is this,...look after yourself first,if medical issues are paramount and you have to back off to get treatment,then its better to do this than die!....you are no good to us or yourself if you are reduced to a pile of ashes!,...yes wcb is "counting on this"...yes they are a pack of criminal goons who are connected to some very criminal gangs,especialy here in b.c.,...nooo,...what we want is for you to take your power back from the psychopaths,deal with the worst of the medical problems,and then...get back to us and be prepared for abuse like you would not believe,unless it was happening to you that is!...then...no problem...we believe all right!,...you who are just setting out on this eugenics ridden corperate scam,...well,....how to help you...the newly injured...is the prima facie of all this publicity,...its not easy...its not for the weak or easily scared,..its war!!,...plain and simple...and in war...well,...alls fair no??,..look after yourself!!...you!!...first and foremost,..for us who have years of effort in this,the stories are repeated again and again,....wcb employee/s lie,cheat,steal,...murder at will!!,...vehicular homicide is a favorite,...dificult to prove as a crime,..are you ready for that??...ready for your name and rep to be trashed Canada wide??...ready for the wcb 'buddies" to hound your every move??...can you handle repeated false accusations??...threats??...to you and yours when you refuse to "play the game"??....its no game here people,...if you can not do these things and heal at the same time,...the freaks will win...you will die!!...your kids will be impoverished and threatened,think about that for a minute??...we have recently proven that wcb,s canda wide are working with criminal gangs,first on the dirty "buddy" kickback schemes,then as "enforcers" for those who survive their injuries and take action,...hell,..I have had the head of one gang parked right outside my home,following me in his stolen car and plate[yes the rcmp have that evidence],...a real nasty customer indeed!!,...and he was/is no friend of mine,...rather he is the "friend" of wcb bc,...MR Anderson knows who I mean,...since we know you are reading this dave,...whats yer answer to this???...heh???....what about the deal in Mexico??...is my daughter safe dave??....tell us about your international crime connections Mr anderson??....no,...you will run and hide like the cowardly criminal you are!!,...think this is "something" do ya??....wait until you get wind of the latest...ha ha,...I told you before,...we are coming for you!!...and all,s fair in love and war!!,...no secrets david...NONE!!,...ha ha,...shoulda thotta that before committing the crimes psycho boy!!,mr K-mart[what a loser!!!]...do the crime??..do the time!!...period!!...loser!!,...yers from the best coast of this great corruption ridden land...Rob,.
name : 'real" rob lawson).
email : r.c.lawson@shaw.ca [they want me to change providers.Hmmm???]...
August 13, 2008
RE: Saskatchewan Injured Workers:
63 Doctors and counting: If you were injured in Saskatchewan and have suffered due to WCB, BAD FAITH, negligence or misfeasance, there is a class action lawsuit that you can join. HOWEVER: to be included you must meet very strict guidelines, as everybody knows, WCB in Saskatchewan has GAZILLIONS of DOLLARS of employers' money / contributions to DELAY" DENY" DEFEND" injured workers claims.
WCB also has Government approval and LAWS to HELP them screw injured workers who have or will suffer work injuries, this is NO JOKE. Injured workers are being denied help for work injuries at alarming rates; it is a clear case of BAD FAITH INSURANCE CLAIM PRACTICE.
Here's a sample of what awaits an injured worker who has to fight the WCB in Saskatchewan for claim acceptance, (You will be made to file multiple appeals, people rarely win an appeal at WCB because, the odds are stacked against them.)
WCB relies on SEC: 22 which states they have the right to JUDGE and JURY your work injury, interpret any facts or make discrepancies any way they want. This is how WCB denies or delays injured workers claims, medical treatment, benefits, etc.
Many injured workers do not have the intestinal fortitude or the correct information to fight WCB. Getting help from the workers advocates in Regina or Saskatoon only makes it harder for the injured worker. The workers advocates are paid from the WCB fund and will not properly represent you at APPEAL. ( The workers advocates office is acting with conflict of interest, and will go above and beyond their duty to see that your appeal is denied. Even the advocates' office has the right to deny you HELP with your appeal)
This has happened to many injured workers who just give-up, due to WCB, BAD FAITH insurance claim practice.
As much as I understand the point in the earlier entry, give up the fight for claim acceptance, so that you can get Government Healthcare, and proper medical treatment for your injuries: BE WARNED: WCB will take specialists diagnoses and reword them to favor claim DENIAL: This is another way WCB convolutes the evidence to DENY or DELAY claims. They save BIG BUCKS with this approach.
Injured workers who do appeal their claims are placed in a system that takes months or years to have appeals heard, and even then, are denied and sent to the next level for adjudication. The best way to get proper representation for your appeal is to find a experienced ATTORNEY, however this is easier said than done, many lawyers won't take an injured workers case as they already have experience with WCB and their abusive system. (Many injured workers do not have the funds to hire expensive attorneys, WCB knows this and therefore is ARROGANT that they can squash injured workers like a bug.)
Injured workers in Saskatchewan are being victimized by the very institution (WCB) that was put in place to protect them in case of an accident. WCB will do or say anything that favors claim denial, medical care, benefits etc.
Many injured workers who have been denied claim acceptance are being forced into this unjust and discriminative adversarial system. Injured workers are suffering further abuse by WCB who traumatizes them with their outrageous and despicable claims administration.
Being severely injured in pain without proper diagnose of injury and being out of work with NO INCOME is nerve-wracking enough on it's own, but having to appeal decisions that have been made in BAD FAITH has pushed many injured workers over the edge, suicides, marriage break-ups, mental and emotional breakdowns are the norm for many injured workers, who have suffered work injuries that have been denied or refused medical treatment, benefits etc.
If you are a Saskatchewan injured worker who has been subjected to the deplorable and despicable actions of employees at the WCB, get involved NOW. We need everyone to come forward ASAP so we can get WCB back on track with their responsibilities towards injured workers, NOT EMPLOYERS.
When the class action lawsuit is filed in court, there will be no way that Premier Wall and the legislature can downplay what the WCB is doing to defenseless injured workers in Saskatchewan who are being subjected to the WCB BAD FAITH INSURANCE PROGRAM.
wcbclassaction@fastmail.fm
August 12, 2008
Just an observation; while it is legal to record telephone conversations as long as 1 party is aware of the recording, those recordings are not necessarily admissible as evidence; it will be up to the hearings official to decide. To be admissible a recording must have the standard disclaimer that the conversation is being recorded. Recording calls is still a great way to keep the facts straight in your own mind though.
Please remember, those workers who were employed by the federal government or a crown corporation can now make FOI requests for whatever information their employer may have. Remember to send a request to Human Resources and Social Development Canada (HRSDC), as much of the information is sent on to them as well. Here is a form that can be used"
http://www.tbs-sct.gc.ca/tbsf-fsct/350-57_e.asp
A list of the Privacy Co-ordinators for government agencies and crown corporations can be found here:
http://www.tbs-sct.gc.ca/atip-aiprp/apps/coords/index-eng.asp Provincial agencies may also be subject to FOI requests. This gives Schedule II workers a huge advantage over their Schedule I peers as the internal records often will document and support the worker's perception of bias.
http://www.tbs-sct.gc.ca/atip-aiprp/apps/coords/index-eng.asp Provincial agencies may also be subject to FOI requests. This gives Schedule II workers a huge advantage over their Schedule I peers as the internal records often will document and support the worker's perception of bias.
August 12, 2008
To CIWA you should at the very least explain why you are not displaying my submissions if not on the web then by email. sincerely shoulder and spine experiment
To: Shoulder and Spine Experiment
Please take note that all submissions received are posted, unless the content is too vulger, or names are mentioned. These are usually modified, but still posted. I have not rec'd any recently (from anyone) that I have not posted. The last one I rec'd from you was July 24th. If you have sent items since then that have not been posted, please re-send, and I will post. Thank You, Monika at CIWA.
PS - I do receive 100-200 junk mail every day, and it takes time to go through these. If you are not sending the email using the preset response, and if I do not recognize or it looks like spam, then it has most likely been accidently deleted. You also request a response by email, which you have not provided.
Please take note that all submissions received are posted, unless the content is too vulger, or names are mentioned. These are usually modified, but still posted. I have not rec'd any recently (from anyone) that I have not posted. The last one I rec'd from you was July 24th. If you have sent items since then that have not been posted, please re-send, and I will post. Thank You, Monika at CIWA.
PS - I do receive 100-200 junk mail every day, and it takes time to go through these. If you are not sending the email using the preset response, and if I do not recognize or it looks like spam, then it has most likely been accidently deleted. You also request a response by email, which you have not provided.
August 12, 2008
The winter Olympics is closing in and I would like to let you know how our Government in British Columbia allows WorkSafe B.C to the JUDGE & JURY ??
Pt.1 http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=8FjQYmLu3-o
Pt.2 http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=c5lqWYHOFp8
Watch and see all 7 videos and if you have the time Goggle; John Berfelo, Fighting WorkSafe B.C.
There is a HUGE problem in B.C in regards to the average worker that gets hurt.
Its WorkSafe B.C !!!!!
Injured Workers need your help
What if it was someone you LOVED ??
Pt.1 http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=8FjQYmLu3-o
Pt.2 http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=c5lqWYHOFp8
Watch and see all 7 videos and if you have the time Goggle; John Berfelo, Fighting WorkSafe B.C.
There is a HUGE problem in B.C in regards to the average worker that gets hurt.
Its WorkSafe B.C !!!!!
Injured Workers need your help
What if it was someone you LOVED ??
August 12, 2008
Sorry. But I have to disagree with the person who said to leave your WCB claim. DO NOT do that. That is what WCB and WSIB want. They try to make life difficult so you walk away so they can save money. They want to bring you down. They want to make you cry and make you suffer.
If you are seriously injured, and you are unable to work like me, then walking away is the worst thing you could do. Fight them! Do not let them get away with it. Think about your future. Think about the future of your family. Think about your future medical costs, etc
Ask WCB/WSIB for a copy of your file. Then ask your doctors for a copy of their files. I guarantee your workers comp file will have missing information. If you can, hire a lawyer who will take a small percentage of the money workers comp owes you. Go through your file, not just once, a few times, and build yourself a case. Be organized and keep every little piece of evidence along the way. Document your symptoms daily. Write down how you feel physically and emotionally.
Buy a digital recorder and record all phone calls, appointments etc. Trust me. You may not think something is important now, but one day you will be thankful you recorded it. Workers Comp will make ridiculous accusations. They will try to bring you down as low as they can.
If you go to a work hardening program or to a pain program etc, record that to. Who pays them? You? No. They work for your employer. Not you. Don't tell them personal information and be careful what you say. Make sure to get a copy of your file from them too. Do not take your meds if you go to a pain program, work hardening, LMR etc. Meds mask the physical symptoms we feel. Let them see what you feel and what you go through. Let them see what you go through on your bad days.
Go to a Psychologist and keep yourself mentally strong. It's a fight. A huge fight and it's hard. But, we can not let them get away with the treatment we get from them. If you are followed by private investigators, document, write down license plates, educate yourself, take pictures and don't talk to strangers or co-workers about your injury.
Us Injured Workers and our families do not deserve the treatment we get. I know some doctors like to turn their backs on us, but there are some doctors who will care and who will help. The reason doctors turn their back is because WSIB and WCB make it difficult for them too by giving lots of paper work, denying them promised funding etc. Try to put yourself in their shoes as well. Would you want to deal with workers comp if you didn't have to? I wouldn't.
Be nice to your doctors. Show them you are making an effort and trying to make the best of your life. If you show them respect and that you care to fight the system and that you want to get better, they will most likely help you. They see many grouchy negative people in pain all the time. Don't be the sterotypical person in pain. Stand out from the crowd and show them you care so they will care.
Try to stay strong. Try to smile. Try to enjoy the small things in life. I know it's not easy living with the pain we all feel. I know we can have our bad days. But, we all only have one life to live. Non of us can go back in time and change what happened. Many days I would love to go back to the day of my injury, and I wish it didn't happen. But, I can never ever change that. I can not get rid of this pain no matter how many meds I take or how many prayers I say.
But, I do have the choice to be in charge of my own attitude. I want to live as positive as I can. I want to enjoy every day I have. There are still people worse off then me. More disabled then me. In more pain then me. I am thankful to have a roof over my head. Family members that love and support me. I am thankful I learned a lesson in life at a young age. I watch people walk past me every day. They just go through life and forget to enjoy the day. Forget to listen to the birds sing. Forget to stop and look at a pretty flower growing in the grass. Even though I will always be disabled, now that I move slower, I can enjoy all those little things that most people walk by every day.
This workers comp system is extremely hard to fight. Some days I feel like throwing my arms up in the air, and just screaming because I feel so much anger for the treatment I have received. How do these people do their jobs and sleep at night? How could my employer fire me due to my disablity? How can I be cut off workers comp when all the medical evidence proves I am not a malinger, etc? How can this happen in the country we live in?
Keep fighting Injured Workers. We have to. We can not let them get away with this. We all have a voice. One voice may not make a difference. But many voices eventually will. Speak up. Don't be scared. And try to enjoy your life. Pain will never go away. Don't let pain control your life. You control your life and you have the power to control your attitude. Remember that the less stress we feel, the easier it is to manage the pain we feel. So try to do something fun today, and try to make yourself smile.
Good luck to all Injured Workers and their Families.
name : Young Injured Worker
name : Young Injured Worker
August 8, 2008
Anyone see the sun newspaper on tuesday about a wsib topdog getting paid by wsib and labour board? If anyone did please tell me more I just heard about this and would like to know more as media keeps this very low key. Where is the RCMP or OPP maybe there on the roll too!like the MP's and MPP's.
August 8, 2008
All workers of B.C
Did you know if you got seriously injured on the job you would have to endure ??
Have you been SCREWED by WorkSafe B.C ???
My name is John Berfelo and WorkSafe B.C is destroying me !!!
Have you heard this before ??
YES I HAVE... Most of the people in the forestry industry and construction industry have heard it LOTS .
Family's losing there HOMES, forced on to welfare, and 19 seriously injured workers just ended their LIVES ... WHY ??? http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=LJTSmRD_E3g
Did you know if you got seriously injured on the job you would have to endure ??
Have you been SCREWED by WorkSafe B.C ???
My name is John Berfelo and WorkSafe B.C is destroying me !!!
Have you heard this before ??
YES I HAVE... Most of the people in the forestry industry and construction industry have heard it LOTS .
Family's losing there HOMES, forced on to welfare, and 19 seriously injured workers just ended their LIVES ... WHY ??? http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=LJTSmRD_E3g
August 6, 2008
TO: Injured in Saskatchewan 60 doctors and counting:
Give up on your wcb claim, (this will protect you from their abusive and tyrannical actions) I know this sounds scary, HOWEVER if you want medical care, you must distance yourself from WCB and who you are sent to for medical care. (You will not receive HELP through the workers compensation system.) They will make sure your injuries are not documented, then they can deny you help.
By giving up your right to Compensation, you will be able to receive medical care through the Saskatchewan Health System, and therefore will stand a better chance of recovery from your work injury. (WCB will continually misrepresent your work injury and send you to their $puppy-mill$ physicians who are paid to not investigate your work injury)
Once you have received medical care, and have reached max medical improvement, then get a ATTORNEY. Leave the bickering to the professionals.
Your only concern at this time should be to distance yourself from WCB so you can get HELP for your injuries. Be prepared to sell everything you own to have money to live on, maybe you can move in with your parents or friends and relatives. Apply for welfare, EI, or anything that you can qualify for.
Don't expect any help with anything from the government, even though they have a huge surplus for helping with retraining, very few qualify. Be prepared for all the doors to be slammed in your face.
Invest in a digital tape recorder, and take this to every appointment, tape everything so you will have PROOF of what has been said, and what has taken place.
July 24, 2008
I need help. I need someone that knows this system well enough to help me fight my appeal. I was hurt in May of 05 and suffered a permant lower back injury to my right side. Then in December 07 I had suffered another injury from works neglect and hurt the opposite side of my back and farther down my spine then before. I was turned down for wisb as they claim because of what my employer has said, i didn't complain about my injury prior to going off. LIES LIES LIES!!!!!!!!!!
Does anyone know a good lawyer to help me. Don't have alot of money but are willing to take out a loan if need be.
Why is it that the injuried worker gets shafted over and over again. Haven't we suffered enough? My happy pills just don't cut it. The depression is winning. I need some hope.
nancy
nancy-kennedy@cogeco.ca
July 24, 2008
INJURED IN SASKATCHEWAN: 60 doctors and counting: What a royal run-around.
My GP made an appointment in FEB 08 stated I need a MRI, said the neurosurgeon would order the test. (Sask WCB expidited the appointment and I was treated again like a malingering faker) RESULTS::::No TESTS ORDERED::::
MADE TO DRIVE 4 HOURS TO APPOINTMENT ;;;;;;; subjected to more bullshit and injury aggravated swelling on back very painful yet determined no cause for concern;;;;;; the real f/around of my life is being allowed to continue...
TODAY because of the aggravation/pain/ swelling. going asap to emergency.
July 24, 2008
Worker Burned at Potash Mine.In the A section on page 8 This isnt brain surgery however it might be given the opportunity.Sask wcb Olympics to be held after all dr reports are filed. SHOULDER AND SPINE EXPERIMENT
July 22, 2008
What was the headline of the iw story in the July 19th edition of the Saskatoon StarPhoenix. I couldn't find it anywhere.
July 22, 2008
secondary wounding....yes indeed!!,dont forget the effects on your family,especialy your children,wcb psychopaths will use every weapon at thier disposal,including harrassing your kids,ask them for a dept that deals with this...THEY DO NOT HAVE/WANT ONE!!!,....says something no??...the sooner all Canadians are made aware of the crimes,specificly the corruption/"buddy deal",kickback schemes,...thats a real eye opener!!THE BETTER FOR ALL OF US!,..at this time,due to enourmous efforts,..the "powers that be"[to quote my lawyer] are in the know about this,all the details,all the names,and the sums!!...THE SUMS!!!,......TRULY STUPENDOUS!!!!,....billions are being side tracked to criminal orginizations,and ..ahem...."otherwise",...at wcb,s Canada wide....this corruption is of the vilest type,...disgusting in the extreme...and the perps involved could care less if you and yours suffer and die!!,...as long as they get their grubby,smelly,disgusting,paws on all that CASH $$$$$$$$,....dont make the mistake,any of you, of thinking these creatures are there to "help" you,...they are not!,...you are the conduit for their monetary cash grabbing crimes!!,...harsh I know,..but hey,...facts is facts,...get over it I say,...get angry[its your right after all]...then...GET EVEN!,...ask them for credentials...no credentials? or the wrong ones??...NO "OPINION"....PERIOD!!,...and remember this,...."do as I say...OR WE WILL CUT YOU OFF".....is a serious threat.Just ask all those nutcases who are in the crapper now in the U.S. for saying exactly this.no,...the truth is if you are seriously injured in Canada,...you will be "flagged"[via your medical files] for abuse and torture that would result in arrests in any DEMOCRATIC COUNTRY in the world.....except CANADA,...that is,...make no mistake,...you are caught up in a EUGENICS SCHEME,...and the motive is the money,...of course,...that most evil of poisons!,...dont discuus medicine with medical wannabee,s at any time,...your life and your kids future is at stake,...its no game I can assure you all!,...or if it is to some people[wcb employee,s]...its a deadly,DEADLY!...serious one.keep this in mind next time some weenie is pushing your buttons,and notice??....they take your medical info and use it as a weapon against you,...you all must have noticed this???....learn to say NO!!,...its your right,...and record everything,...we can always use more evidence...although...anyone who can not see the crimes at this time is on the take for sure,...so many criminal over the years,so few honest Canadians,....what does this tell the world about our country??...money wins??...honour is dead??the law is an ass??...corruption rules this country??....yes indeed!!,...here in b.latant c.riminal[note no caps for the perps?],...CORRUPTION IS IN THE DRIVERS SEAT FOR SURE,...big,BIG!...C...Corruption,...and...message for the weenies at wcb bc,...EXPEDITE???....is english yer second language??,...we know you are reading this,...as are some very,very,influential people,...and also,....FORENSIC AUDIT!,...did ya get that one at all??...geeeez what a pack of losers!!,...big L LOSERS!!,...cant do yer job,wont do your job,cowering like the cowards you are!,...sick!!...very,very,...SICK!!,..get a life LOSERS!,....and stay out of mine!..or else!!,...COWARDS RUN YOU WEENIES,...ITSA SURE SIGN!!,...yers Rob,
name : "real" Rob lawson
email :
r.c.lawson@shaw.ca
July 22, 2008
Well,yes the pen is mightier than the sword and a whole lot more devious. For those with their real files can confirm. HAD hitler staffed the REICHSTAG with present day wcb employees Europe would have fallen without firing a shot. SHOULDER AND SPINE EXPERIMENT
July 21, 2008
Willie:
Standing up for the rights of others is the mark of an Activist. I would like to extend an invitation to you and yours to join fellow activists at http://iwaac.19.forumer.com/index.php
. We have started a letter writing campaign to various Ministers in charge of over seeing the WCB's across Canada. We are uncovering and working on the secondary health injuries caused by simply having to deal with the WSIB's advisarial system. The fact that the two of you have been "have been worked over since the 29th of Nov/07 by the WSIB", as you have stated, is yet another proof the system has failed one more injured worker and his/her family. I am glad to see you will not give up and are prepared to fight for yor rights as Canadians. The pen is mightier than the sword and at IWAAC Pro-Active, we feel the provincial & territorial governments must either take control of their broken WCB's and put a stop to these secondary health injuries the current system allows for, or the governments be held accountable and libel in the court public opinion and law for these secondary health injuries. Pete Clare, webmaster
. We have started a letter writing campaign to various Ministers in charge of over seeing the WCB's across Canada. We are uncovering and working on the secondary health injuries caused by simply having to deal with the WSIB's advisarial system. The fact that the two of you have been "have been worked over since the 29th of Nov/07 by the WSIB", as you have stated, is yet another proof the system has failed one more injured worker and his/her family. I am glad to see you will not give up and are prepared to fight for yor rights as Canadians. The pen is mightier than the sword and at IWAAC Pro-Active, we feel the provincial & territorial governments must either take control of their broken WCB's and put a stop to these secondary health injuries the current system allows for, or the governments be held accountable and libel in the court public opinion and law for these secondary health injuries. Pete Clare, webmaster
July 21, 2008
The July 19 edition of the Saskatoon StarPhoenix has a story about an iw who finally recieved justice. After waiting for over 11 years he got the back pay the sask wcb denied him and the board will pay for his retraining. He says that had it not been for the PUBLICITY from earlier stories and help from those people who read about it this might not have happened. I,ll say again, we need to go public and radio talk shows advertizing "anything and everything" is a good start.On your own they wont let you on but if say a dozen sat at their phones and all called at once filling their lines well what could they do. not illegal,not physically demanding and free. SHOULDER AND SPINE EXPERIMENT
July 21, 2008
*** "SASKATCHEWAN-INJURED-WORKER-CLASS-ACTION-LAWSUIT" ****
Greeting's Everyone, I would like to take the time to personally thank everyone who has joined in this class action, we are not quite ready to file this multimillion dollar court action, as injured workers are still contacting us and the story's of the abusive and negligent actions of EMPLOYEES at this WCB provincial CON-pensation are still being reviewed. ( The HORROR stories are very disheartening, and truly show how injured workers have been marginalized and their injuries minimized.)
We are presently looking at all claims for the following information, #1. BREACH OF PRIVACY, (WCB has been releasing injured workers claim file information, financial and health without their knowledge.) #2. BAD FAITH INSURANCE CLAIM PRACTICE. ( WCB has failed to follow Statutes and ACTS that have been legislated to protect injured workers, if it favors claim DENIAL. ) #3. MISFEASANCE, (all injured workers claims are being scrutinized for this and the results are truly frightening as many injured and disabled workers have been subjected to this on a regular basis.) #4. NEGLIGENCE, (after reviewing many claim files, almost all show evidence that Sask WCB has been GROSSLY NEGLIGENT in the administration of injured workers claims.) #5. NEGLIGENT AND INTENTIONAL INFLICTION OF EMOTIONAL DISTRESS. ( Many of the claim files PROVE, Workers CON-pensation has caused further Traumatization and Psychological Injury that has not been treated. #6. CHRONIC PAIN SUPREME COURT RULING.
We are hoping to have these multi-million dollar lawsuits proceed asap, and are reviewing all information, and hope to complete this process sometime in August / 08.
If you are a Saskatchewan Injured Worker and would like to join this CLASS ACTION LAWSUIT, email for further info: wcbclassaction@fastmail.fm
Greeting's Everyone, I would like to take the time to personally thank everyone who has joined in this class action, we are not quite ready to file this multimillion dollar court action, as injured workers are still contacting us and the story's of the abusive and negligent actions of EMPLOYEES at this WCB provincial CON-pensation are still being reviewed. ( The HORROR stories are very disheartening, and truly show how injured workers have been marginalized and their injuries minimized.)
We are presently looking at all claims for the following information, #1. BREACH OF PRIVACY, (WCB has been releasing injured workers claim file information, financial and health without their knowledge.) #2. BAD FAITH INSURANCE CLAIM PRACTICE. ( WCB has failed to follow Statutes and ACTS that have been legislated to protect injured workers, if it favors claim DENIAL. ) #3. MISFEASANCE, (all injured workers claims are being scrutinized for this and the results are truly frightening as many injured and disabled workers have been subjected to this on a regular basis.) #4. NEGLIGENCE, (after reviewing many claim files, almost all show evidence that Sask WCB has been GROSSLY NEGLIGENT in the administration of injured workers claims.) #5. NEGLIGENT AND INTENTIONAL INFLICTION OF EMOTIONAL DISTRESS. ( Many of the claim files PROVE, Workers CON-pensation has caused further Traumatization and Psychological Injury that has not been treated. #6. CHRONIC PAIN SUPREME COURT RULING.
We are hoping to have these multi-million dollar lawsuits proceed asap, and are reviewing all information, and hope to complete this process sometime in August / 08.
If you are a Saskatchewan Injured Worker and would like to join this CLASS ACTION LAWSUIT, email for further info: wcbclassaction@fastmail.fm
July 17, 2008
YEA, and let's be very to the point, this "Culture of DENIAL" and NO ACCOUNTABILITY must STOP ASAP. Let's advertise the CON ARTISTS pictures for everyone to see who they are, write story's, and make YOU-TUBE VIDEOS and pass them around to everyone to show what CRIMINALS they really are.
These schmucks must be held accountable, NO IF'S OR BUTTS.
I am presently a disabled injured worker who is being discriminated and harassed by the CON-ARTISTS who think they will not have to answer for their crimes, think again case manager and your lying and disrespectful and holier than hell attitude, because your time is up. The truth about how you have caused me mental distress, further injury, and all the other things you have done with your GROSS NEGLIGENCE of my injury claim is NOW going to HAUNT YOU for the rest of your LIFE. which I hope is very short, and you suffer from all your bullshit, that you have dealt me.
July 17, 2008
Hiding injuries rewards companies - WSIB Board shields unsafe job sites - Monday, June 30, 2008: COLIN MCCONNELL/TORONTO STAR
The provincial government's highly touted campaign to improve workplace safety is rewarding companies for hiding injuries and rushing the wounded back to work.
A Toronto Star investigation has found that since 2000, companies have reported thousands of seriously injured Ontarians as having missed no time off work.
Some companies pressure or bribe workers not to report major injuries at all.
Some pay the wounded full salary to do degrading make-work jobs.
Others, such as construction giant Aecon Group Inc., have lied to make injuries look less serious.
The result is that companies cut costs under the Workplace Safety & Insurance Board's incentive plan.
The provincial agency's plan says that the faster a company gets an injured worker back to work, or off what is known as "loss time," the lower the insurance premium. Shortening this loss time or avoiding reporting it altogether can be lucrative, possibly leading to a rebate cheque from the WSIB. The Star found that at least 11,000 worker injuries were downplayed or improperly handled over a seven-year period, including 3,000 fractures, dislocations, bad burns and other injuries, even amputations, that companies reported as resulting in not even one day off work. These practices are dangerous because they give government an inflated sense of safety in Ontario workplaces. That's because Ministry of Labour inspectors rely, in part, on WSIB injury data to determine which companies to inspect. By downplaying serious injuries, unsafe companies may reduce the likelihood of an inspection. Meanwhile, many of the wounded have ended up pawns in a balance sheet game, shuffled back to work under the regulatory radar and vulnerable to further harm. "It's not acceptable for any employer to force an injured worker back to work prematurely," said Ontario labour minister Brad Duguid when presented with the Star's findings. "There's no question the incentive program needs to be improved."... http://www.thestar.com/article/451322
Some pay the wounded full salary to do degrading make-work jobs.
Others, such as construction giant Aecon Group Inc., have lied to make injuries look less serious.
The result is that companies cut costs under the Workplace Safety & Insurance Board's incentive plan.
The provincial agency's plan says that the faster a company gets an injured worker back to work, or off what is known as "loss time," the lower the insurance premium. Shortening this loss time or avoiding reporting it altogether can be lucrative, possibly leading to a rebate cheque from the WSIB. The Star found that at least 11,000 worker injuries were downplayed or improperly handled over a seven-year period, including 3,000 fractures, dislocations, bad burns and other injuries, even amputations, that companies reported as resulting in not even one day off work. These practices are dangerous because they give government an inflated sense of safety in Ontario workplaces. That's because Ministry of Labour inspectors rely, in part, on WSIB injury data to determine which companies to inspect. By downplaying serious injuries, unsafe companies may reduce the likelihood of an inspection. Meanwhile, many of the wounded have ended up pawns in a balance sheet game, shuffled back to work under the regulatory radar and vulnerable to further harm. "It's not acceptable for any employer to force an injured worker back to work prematurely," said Ontario labour minister Brad Duguid when presented with the Star's findings. "There's no question the incentive program needs to be improved."... http://www.thestar.com/article/451322
July 17, 2008
Hello,
We are a small 2 member older family in the wonderous province of Ontario. I am a 56 yr old wife of a construction worker hurt on the job. We have been worked over since the 29th of Nov/07 by the WSIB. we have heard more stories about : that's a grey area : & We have never been billed for that: than it is possible to believe. We have more, & better records than WSIB, to no avail. We produced accurate records for the submission of travel mileage for physio & Dr appt, & have yet to be paid.
We will not give up.
We believe that WSIB stil stands for "Workers Safety Insurance Board" . Insurance being the key word.
We are not Activists by any Stretch, but, we would like to be treated as human beings and not like cattle without brains.We will continue the fight for our own rights as well as thosde of others.
Willie sew.grannies@xplornnet.com
We will not give up.
We believe that WSIB stil stands for "Workers Safety Insurance Board" . Insurance being the key word.
We are not Activists by any Stretch, but, we would like to be treated as human beings and not like cattle without brains.We will continue the fight for our own rights as well as thosde of others.
Willie sew.grannies@xplornnet.com
July 17, 2008
I totally agree with the last writer's comments, Darrell Powell who has taken the first step to truly show how WORKERS CON-PENSATION works. (It should be HOW IT DOESN"T WORK FOR SEVERELY DISABLED WORKERS) and many other injured souls. There is no reason to post on this website, other than to inform injured workers what they face from these corrupt Provincial CON-pensation organizations. Everyone who reads this message, can contact me at fixwcbcanada@gmail.com and I will relay any ideas to who-ever suggests a COURSE OF ACTION. I have no qualms about how we are to proceed, the time has come for IMMEDIATE ACTION. We must as a group RAISE HELL with HARPER and EVERYONE ELSE, otherwise F/A will change and more lives will be lost just like Jeffery Thompson, from the wewbsite ciws.ca the information of chronic pain.
http://www.ciws.ca/articles_cape_breton_chronic_pain.htm ???
Plainly put: The lies and the convoluting of diseases by the CON-ARTISTS at the CONPENSATION BOARDS must be STOPPED DEAD IN THEIR TRACKS: ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!!! EMPLOYER CON-PENSATION MUST BE REVAMPED IMMEDIATELY WHETHER FROM PARLIAMENT OR FROM FEROCIOUS AND IMMEDIATE ATTACKING ON THIS F/KED UP SYSTEM THAT THE INSURER'S (CON- ARTISTS) ARE ALLOWED TO ADMINISTER. Everyone who is reading this GEAR-UP and get ready for the MOTHER of ALL PROTESTS. I will be your brother in arms, fighting to change this adversarial system, and to right the injustices that have been thrust down the throats of all of us injured workers, disabled by occupation is no f/king joke. My injury claim is about to proceed to court for all to see how this Dysfunctional SYSTEM IS ALLOWED TO OPERATE. No longer will CON ARTISTS be able to minimize or marginalize my injuries, like they have with their deceptive and fraudulent "Culture of DENIAL" The historical agreement, Meredith Principle has been violated time and time again and again, and medical treatment for my work injuries has been DENIED by $PUPPY-MILL$ Doctors, Specialist who fear the WRATH of Government and the CON-ARTISTS that run-this f/ked up SYSTEM. I believe that Jesus has spared me, DEATH, to fight, andto right these wrongs that the CON-ARTISTS at CONpensation and the Government are to chicken to address. Everyone write me with the subject line. Employers Conpensation CON ARTISTS"S must be held ACCOUNTABLE. http://weeklytoll.blogspot.com/2008/07/depraved-indifference-workers.html
http://www.ciws.ca/articles_cape_breton_chronic_pain.htm ???
Plainly put: The lies and the convoluting of diseases by the CON-ARTISTS at the CONPENSATION BOARDS must be STOPPED DEAD IN THEIR TRACKS: ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!!! EMPLOYER CON-PENSATION MUST BE REVAMPED IMMEDIATELY WHETHER FROM PARLIAMENT OR FROM FEROCIOUS AND IMMEDIATE ATTACKING ON THIS F/KED UP SYSTEM THAT THE INSURER'S (CON- ARTISTS) ARE ALLOWED TO ADMINISTER. Everyone who is reading this GEAR-UP and get ready for the MOTHER of ALL PROTESTS. I will be your brother in arms, fighting to change this adversarial system, and to right the injustices that have been thrust down the throats of all of us injured workers, disabled by occupation is no f/king joke. My injury claim is about to proceed to court for all to see how this Dysfunctional SYSTEM IS ALLOWED TO OPERATE. No longer will CON ARTISTS be able to minimize or marginalize my injuries, like they have with their deceptive and fraudulent "Culture of DENIAL" The historical agreement, Meredith Principle has been violated time and time again and again, and medical treatment for my work injuries has been DENIED by $PUPPY-MILL$ Doctors, Specialist who fear the WRATH of Government and the CON-ARTISTS that run-this f/ked up SYSTEM. I believe that Jesus has spared me, DEATH, to fight, andto right these wrongs that the CON-ARTISTS at CONpensation and the Government are to chicken to address. Everyone write me with the subject line. Employers Conpensation CON ARTISTS"S must be held ACCOUNTABLE. http://weeklytoll.blogspot.com/2008/07/depraved-indifference-workers.html
July 16, 2008
I agree with you totally: Complaining on the internet is useless, HOWEVER injured workers who view this site have much information to be used for their benefit, much like I have. ex: Darrell Powell who's radio program has finally shown the system of abuse for what is truly happening.
The video's by John Berfelo and the Forbes Family truly show the corruption that is being allowed to continue by all provincial governments. IF we want change, we must organize which is what I have been trying to do. HOWEVER, everyone's situation is different and many injured disabled workers are unable to help due to their circumstances.
Starting Monday, let's all send in ideas to start were Darrell Powell has left off.
I have been in touch with Darrell and his health is declining rapidly due to his fight for all of us. The BC government and Worksafe BC must be held accountable, as should all the other provinces.
We must pick-up the torch that Darrell has lit.. OR his effort will be just another casualty for the workers compensation board to sit around and gloat. "WE SQUASHED ANOTHER INJURED WORKER WITH OUR BILLIONS OF DOLLARS"
Let's take this fight to the offices of the workers compensation building in every province. LET'S MOCK THEM LIKE THEY HAVE US.
The video's by John Berfelo and the Forbes Family truly show the corruption that is being allowed to continue by all provincial governments. IF we want change, we must organize which is what I have been trying to do. HOWEVER, everyone's situation is different and many injured disabled workers are unable to help due to their circumstances.
Starting Monday, let's all send in ideas to start were Darrell Powell has left off.
I have been in touch with Darrell and his health is declining rapidly due to his fight for all of us. The BC government and Worksafe BC must be held accountable, as should all the other provinces.
We must pick-up the torch that Darrell has lit.. OR his effort will be just another casualty for the workers compensation board to sit around and gloat. "WE SQUASHED ANOTHER INJURED WORKER WITH OUR BILLIONS OF DOLLARS"
Let's take this fight to the offices of the workers compensation building in every province. LET'S MOCK THEM LIKE THEY HAVE US.
July 16, 2008
Shoulder and spine experiment, I,ve complained here to my MP and basically they have done nothing. I,ve called the TV show the fifth estate, and left several messages, and no return phone calls. I,ve contacted the local newspaper everyone is scared shit less - why? because WSIB Provinical Federal government are too powerful and government,s will make your life miserable and they can do that. Every civil servant is so protected you can,t sue them? Only way is(Shut down EVERY F---in thing in Canada.)
But we all complain and do nothing . One person alone cannot do this by them self. EVERYONE look at our 3 car makers, not looking good. look at the price of gas, not looking good... look at the hydro you pay groceries my god people can,t anybody see we have to bring this F---ing government to there knee,s.
SHUT EVERYTHING DOWN FOR 2 or 3 days the big babys will cry no revenue. We are being shit on so bad. Now you know why there are certain lawyers only a hand full that will fight the government but theres a hefty price. And most of them are paid of from WSIB or the Provinical or Federal governments. We are little puppets following do as I say and we do.
I,ve been there and done this shit we need to really stick together protest in front of Parliament the tax dollars we pay for them pricks to be in. My friend died years ago and was a lawyer he did not care if you were the Queen of England he fought tooth and nail for you. Even spent time in jail because attempt of court to prove a point. This is a lawyer we need. So you see I,ve had 2 lawyers and they cannot represent me because there company is dealing with issues for WSIB. How convenient. PAID OFF. Look around grab a whole bunch of injured workers pool in to pay in. For what to fight change the ruling of WSIB.I know we all are struggling but someone out there has to see shit of all off this.
But we all complain and do nothing . One person alone cannot do this by them self. EVERYONE look at our 3 car makers, not looking good. look at the price of gas, not looking good... look at the hydro you pay groceries my god people can,t anybody see we have to bring this F---ing government to there knee,s.
SHUT EVERYTHING DOWN FOR 2 or 3 days the big babys will cry no revenue. We are being shit on so bad. Now you know why there are certain lawyers only a hand full that will fight the government but theres a hefty price. And most of them are paid of from WSIB or the Provinical or Federal governments. We are little puppets following do as I say and we do.
I,ve been there and done this shit we need to really stick together protest in front of Parliament the tax dollars we pay for them pricks to be in. My friend died years ago and was a lawyer he did not care if you were the Queen of England he fought tooth and nail for you. Even spent time in jail because attempt of court to prove a point. This is a lawyer we need. So you see I,ve had 2 lawyers and they cannot represent me because there company is dealing with issues for WSIB. How convenient. PAID OFF. Look around grab a whole bunch of injured workers pool in to pay in. For what to fight change the ruling of WSIB.I know we all are struggling but someone out there has to see shit of all off this.
July 16, 2008
Complaining on the internet doesn,t accomplish much. We need to expose wcb injustices to the public. All this info is good but until it is made public it is worthless.SHOULDER AND SPINE EXPERIMENT
July 15, 2008
P.O.
Check out the following link:
http://www.wsib.on.ca/wsib/wopm.nsf/Public/150603
You can also use the Search box in that page to put in layoff and look at other policies that may have relevance to your situation.
You can also use the Search box in that page to put in layoff and look at other policies that may have relevance to your situation.
July 15, 2008
HERE'S THE EMAIL ADDRESS FOR ANYONE INTERESTED, OR WANTING FURTHER INFORMATION IN JOINING THE CLASS ACTION LAWSUIT AGAINST THE SASKATCHEWAN WCB:...
wcbclassaction@fastmail.fm
July 14, 2008
When corresponding with WSIB, mark off 6 weeks from the date of sending your letter on your calendar. If the Board has not responded in this time call the adjudicator, if no call back within 24 hours, call the manager, and so on up the chain until you get an answer.
If you have filed an appeal you should get a file update and an objection form to fill out. Follow the same process as above, to ensure you do not lose your right to appeal. A disproportionate number of letters and written appeals seem to get 'lost' in the mail. REMEMBER IT IS YOUR RESPONSIBILITY TO ENSURE YOUR MESSAGE HAS BEEN RECEIVED.
With time sensitive letters such as appeals, it is often best to drop the letter off in person, if possible, getting a date stamped copy that proves the Board received it. Failing this, send it registered mail, receipt requested. Treat an appeal letter the same way you would a utility bill or mortgage payment that was critical, insist on a written receipt and keep at the Board until you get one.
Keep in mind that while most appeals have a 6 month time limit for filing, LMR issues have a 30 day window. Many reps recommend sending a letter requesting that LMR decisions be benchmarked for possible appeal at a later date. This just means that while there are no present problems with the LMR plan, you want to keep your options open, should problems arise.
If you have filed an appeal you should get a file update and an objection form to fill out. Follow the same process as above, to ensure you do not lose your right to appeal. A disproportionate number of letters and written appeals seem to get 'lost' in the mail. REMEMBER IT IS YOUR RESPONSIBILITY TO ENSURE YOUR MESSAGE HAS BEEN RECEIVED.
With time sensitive letters such as appeals, it is often best to drop the letter off in person, if possible, getting a date stamped copy that proves the Board received it. Failing this, send it registered mail, receipt requested. Treat an appeal letter the same way you would a utility bill or mortgage payment that was critical, insist on a written receipt and keep at the Board until you get one.
Keep in mind that while most appeals have a 6 month time limit for filing, LMR issues have a 30 day window. Many reps recommend sending a letter requesting that LMR decisions be benchmarked for possible appeal at a later date. This just means that while there are no present problems with the LMR plan, you want to keep your options open, should problems arise.
July 14, 2008
I am a injured worker who has not been properly diagnosed. WHY? Because Saskatchewan WCB won't provide the nessaccary diagnostic tests to investigate my injuries. They seek only to DENY me, recovery from work injuries.. Millions of dollars in the fund, yet NO DIAGNOSTIC TEST. This flies in direct conflict with the historical MEREDITH AGREEMENT. I am suffering harassment, mental abuse, from WCB, they have convoluted the medical evidence that has been reported to them by specialists. WHY? Because they are the worst BAD FAITH INSURANCE provider in Canada.
I always thought that Doctors were there to help you in your time of need. I was sadly mistaken, I went from Doctor to Doctor begging for help, only to be turned down and libeled and slandered, their malicious reports to WCB show truly how bad things have really become. All my complaints were never investigated and I was made to suffer, in severe pain from 2 spinal injuries. I was returned to work with multiple injuries on mind altering drugs against my physician's wishes. WHY?
Because WCB is the crookest bunch of lowlife CON ARTISTS on the face of this planet. They thrive on "GREY AREAS" and there are many of these which they have created so they can misconstrue your case to their benefit. Many injured workers much like myself have found out the hard way, WCB's can and do treat you anyway they see fit, they deny medical care, wage replacement, and much more with their convoluted LIES.
My Parents raised me to turn the cheek when something BAD happened, and to just get on with life and chalk it up to experience, this I have done many times. However, I am unable to support my wife and children as I am severely injured and in chronic pain due to the way WCB has administered my injury claim. These are not minor failing's, these injustices that WCB has dealt to me are in direct conflict with natural justice.
55 Doctors and Specialists, soon to become 56.. Hundreds of thousands of wasted dollars just because they can do whatever they want, whenever they feel like. it just makes no sense at all.. WHY KEEP ME SUFFERING .....
Because WCB is the crookest bunch of lowlife CON ARTISTS on the face of this planet.
July 14, 2008
Does anybody believe wcb employees let their offspring know what they do for a killing. I know in Sask. its kept a secret. Ill advertize all I can. SHOULDER AND SPINE EXPERIMENT P.S. Radio talk shows
July 14, 2008
I am currently on wsib. I have returned to work on modified hours and modified duties. My company just informed us today that they are shutting down part of the company early in the new year but all other operations will continue. I was one of the employees that got terminated. Can they actually terminate me while I still have an open claim and if there are still other areas of the plant I could work in. I cannot find any info on this subject on the net and thought maybe someone on here would know the answer. I would like to keep my job.
Thanxs
P.O.
July 10, 2008
wrongdoing?...yes indeed!...dont forget the corruption...the motive for all the crimes...the "buddy" deal,....anyone see the show on NG re:psychopaths?....notice the language??....Dr hare using the word.."buddies"???...and the b-scan,...yes indeed!!!,...lets do this at all wcb,s,...right now!,...only not in secret,....best if the psychopaths at "le clubbe de psycho"...know we are coming for them big...big...BIG!!!...time.....hey,it aint rocket science,..."do the crime?...do the time!,..and when not if caught,...dont come whining at us,your victims,....WE DO NOT WANT TO HEAR IT?"....LOSERS!,...yers from the corruption capitol of Canada,...b.latant c.orruption,...Rob.
July 10, 2008
To all injured workers and families. We all know how "dysfunctional" this abusive CON-pensation system has become. The CON ARTISTS are causing DEATH, SUFFERING, MISERY with their relentless assault on defenseless injured workers. Statutes and Acts that the CON ARTISTS are legislated to follow are being broken without fear of prosecution. The petition that was mentioned in a previous post is a good idea, HOWEVER we need accountability NOW, asap. !!!
Maybe if we all start putting are lives on camera, "YOU-TUBE" like the Forbes Family and John Berefelo and others, CON-pensation CON ARTISTS will think twice before subjecting us to their "FARCICAL SCHEME".... We must take our fight PUBLIC to let everyone know, how absurd this abusive system has become. Everyone has heard the HORROR STORIES of how the CON ARTISTS have returned IW back to work undiagnosed and in severe pain which has caused further injury, and then have DENIED the injury that has resulted. WE MUST TAKE ALL STEPS TO BE HEARD. WORKERS COMPENSATION CON ARTISTS MUST BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR THEIR CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY.
July 10, 2008
What a messed up shit my husband has to still after the fact still has to endure. We just found out that an appeal my husband put in back in 2005 or 2006 not exactly sure, was not even put into the final tribunal. My husband,s adjudicator did not even put this threw.It was not even mention. So now he has to contact her which not likely will she return his calls, to find out why? So here we go again another kick in the butt. So the gentlemen from the Tribunal said he can not do anything. So you see people keep on top off this. I,m thinking request a copy of some sort from the Adjudicator or the Tribunal, make sure that you are not being screwed. So my husband once again hits a brick wall. GO FIGURE. And has not even been on WSIB for 3 years this is how far the appeals he has, has taken so far.So sad. Now you get a shitty little stinking raise in January look at the price of everything. And secretly the governments keep given them self raises.WSIB has been like this since early 1930, I believe I think its do time to start knocking on doors.
July 9, 2008
http://iwaac.19.forumer.com/index.php
A new direction for IW's and their family members, with a real time chat
A new direction for IW's and their family members, with a real time chat
July 7, 2008
http://www.gopetition.com/online/19942.html
Has everyone signed 2008 petition Published by The Canadian Injured Workers Society. This petition is calling for a FEDERAL PUBLIC JUDICIAL INQUIRY into WRONGDOING BY WORKERS COMPENSATION BOARDS ACROSS CANADA (ANYONE may sign this petition. It is NOT restricted to injured workers only.)
Has everyone signed 2008 petition Published by The Canadian Injured Workers Society. This petition is calling for a FEDERAL PUBLIC JUDICIAL INQUIRY into WRONGDOING BY WORKERS COMPENSATION BOARDS ACROSS CANADA (ANYONE may sign this petition. It is NOT restricted to injured workers only.)
July 2, 2008
Here we are sportfans, more event news for the first Sask wcb olympics. This one is called the Slippery Slope File and Fall. It is a skiing event with a few twists.It involves a steep pitched roof,lots of ice and snow,and at least three stories {remember, the fall doesnt hurt,its the sudden stop that gets you} Contestants will be required to "summarize" their victims files,I call it altering files.They will also be wearing welding gloves,helmut and work boots any other attire is up to the discretion of the participant. Signing up for this competition has been brisk so we may allow current wcb employees to enlist. P.S. liquid sustenance and straws will be available for those who survive. SHOULDER AND SPINE EXPERIMENT
July 2, 2008
O CANADA Canada Day What a sad pathic joke lets see what our great country and its elected leaders has done for us it supports a insurance company called WCB which has wiped out thousands upon thousands of injured workers lets move on with the show it tax's gas so high that it bankrupsys IW that have found other means of supporting themselves.it refuses to listen to the people asking for help. a friend of mine also injured worker said it best maybe it's time for a white man's jhad
drywallrocker
drywallrocker
June 25, 2008
Well it appears as though the right wing plutocrats are lobbying to have disabled welfare recipients pack up and leave saskatoon. You see with everyone on the GREED WAGON in our HAVE province we must make room for the immigrants coming to take the jobs of us "lazy and unwilling deadbeats" the so called disabled. Jonathan and mayor atch (hes the one wearing a tie while he swims}believe this is a good plan. They are looking into putting "them" into bush camps. Excuse me but I think that was tried already about the middle of the last century, it ended badly. SHOULDER AND SPINE EXPERIMENT.P.S. more sask wcb olympics event info.The BOILING BRINE HIGH DIVE no explanation needed. Some of us believe a good toss for those ex wcbers who are having cold feet might be in order
June 24, 2008
Pwned = It basically means "to own" or to be dominated by an opponent or situation, especially by some god-like or computer-like force. I've been getting a lot of jokers from other country's to this skypecast. So that the host knows you are an injured worker or someone that can help injured workers please add pwnedinjuredworker in your contact list or send a message with the chat tool. Lets all get together as one so that we can stop this abuse of being pwned. If you don't see this post at other helpful injured worker sites please post the louder are voice the better they hear. I have been calling and like others the trash can is to handy so I tell them to see this forum and see the abuse. Thanks all.
June 24, 2008
PILLS, PILLS, PILLS, PILLS, PILLS, PILLS, PILLS, PILLS, Wake up CON-pensation, YOU are destroying my LIVER,,,,,,WHY,,,DO I HAVE TO GO TO MEDICAL TOURISM INDIA TO GET AN OPERATION THAT CAN BE DONE IN CANADA....10 to 12,000 dollars might get me out of pain, but you cheap skates DENY,DENY,DENY. 5 years of DENIAL... My arms are now BLEEDING due to your incompetence. My liver is now compromised due to your reckless and BAD FAITH INSURANCE claim practices. YOU have finally managed what you have set out to do, KILL ME by denying medical intervention.. MURDERERS..
June 24, 2008
message for John, and any others,...well done with the video,s...yes you are getting "the treatment"from worksafe b.astard c.orruption,...by now you must realize that they[wcb employee,s] are out to kill you??...and if the bafflegab and stress does not do "the job"....they WILL HIRE SERIOUS CRIMINALS TO FINISH YOU OFF!!,...bikers most likely given my experiences.
We have proven conlusivly that not only do they do this, but it seems it ok as long as you are injured???....if you are a faker they will put you on wage loss, keep you there [no oversite$$$$$]...and use you to harrass the legitimate injured,...the gang connection is a fact...CANADA WIDE!!!,...ask the rcmp...go ahead...its like this,....if you are injured, the criminals at wcb bc will have to take 2.5 to 3 million out of "the fund" and invest it to pay your pension,..you are not worth it [their words exactly]...sooo...some psychopath in their employ [virtualy 90 percent have serious psychopathic tendencies [scary no??]...will be "given"...ahem....500,000$$ to screw you big time,...and if that fails,..he will get another 500,000$$ to hire some thugs [bikers] and you will be killed for being injured,....as you are injured anyways its no great loss [again...their words]...sooo,...total costs...1 mill,...total savings...2 to 3 million$$$,....oh,...and as for the "buddies"...employee,s "friends, relatives, etc,...that fake an injury, et the fast track, stay on wage loss [remember...no oversite?]....and then split the take with the employee,...well,....
this kind of thing is rampent here in bc,..corruption at its worst,...and it goes all the way to the premiers office [and yes we have the goods on that one!...as do the mounties]...these "buddies" are the harrassers of people like you and me...hundreds of them!!...are at work here in b.latent c.orruption...with the consent of the province [remember...you are injured anyways so its OK!!]..some at the F.I.PP. office, some as "aides" to the premier [bikers no less!!]...some at hospitals and clinics,...and some at a certain bank of a royal nature[gotta clear those dirty cheques somewhere no??]...soooo......make no mistake....you will be killed for what you are doing,....vehicular homicide is a favorite [difficult to prove]...but there are other methods [with me they have tried messing with my meds...twice,...both times in a hospital]..and yes its documented,...my concern is for your safety,...are you???...safe I mean??....
have you taken measures so someone will at least look into it if you have an "accident"...???...yeah,yeah,...sounds paranoid dont it??...with good reason I can assure you!!,..if you get close to the corruption schemes,...well,...look out!!,...cover yer butt!!,...and it seems you are there already,...this is no game,...its deadly serious at this time,..these creatures will threaten and corrupt anyone any where.any time!!,...they do not care what happens to you unless you threaten the gravy train they are ALL ON!!,...and then /// watch out!!...scary stuff indeed,...
if I had not lived it for so many years I would have trouble believing some of the facts that have surfaced,...think about this...please!!,...if the "powers that be"[provincial] do not condone these actions,they can not happen???.....Gordo is as corrupt as the most psycho biker crack head dealer,...has to be!!!..as is the freedom of info ...gang....and the other goverment depts that have to "deal with us injured"....did ya notice the way they speak to you??...did ya notice the sense of entitlement they have??..the sinecure they seem to enjoy??...the big...big...BIG!!!!!...payoffs???....a million is the natural unit to these freaks,...no...its "cheaper if you die and reduce the surplus population"...[apologies to Dickens]...for them.
Dont waste yer time "appealing" to [sychopaths,...they just feed on it,its manna to a psychopath,...set them up for a fall...we have,...and the perps fell right into the trap [psychopaths are predictable...use it!!]....they tried murder by mountie with me, twice no less [even after the rcmp gave a sincere letter of apology]...yes indeed!...predictable,...I follow my grand fathers advice in this,..."If someone is yanking your halter?...give them some rope,and watch very carefully what they do with it"....and he was no boob,..fought in ww1, his sons,..all of them,,,faught in ww2 and Korea,...so we...their descendents could live in a world without this type of EUGENICS!,...an ugly...ugly...word,...but hey,..if the shoe fits no??...if targeting my kids is not eugenics...then what is???....
this province has snatched several billion from wcb,s coffers!!,...and are using it to finance such things as roads and olympics,...valuable things no doubt,...but that valuable we will kill for it??...here in bc [note no caps?]...its murder most foul!!,...did ya know wcb bc has admited to murdering 18 guys??...that they pay the families a pension for their murders??..that there are many...many...who die from the abuse[suicide is murder,in this case!!]...the stress??...the loss of everything??....going from highly paid specialist to welfare bum is not good for ones ego.,...
we have noticed that it is always the working guys who get the shaft,...not the pencil neck paper pushers,...also noticed that non high school graduates get the worst [useless...right??]...that the money goes to the criminals and their co-horts...and not to us injured,...get this,.....WCB,S CANADA WIDE HAVE SERIOUS CRIMINAL GANG CONNECTIONS AND ARE USING THEM FOR THE "WET WORK",....and yes we have proven this one big,big,big time!...its afact!!!its called "culpable deniability"...they can then say,..."oh that was not us...he must be a criminal as well"...[yes,been there,done that],...soooo,....now we have the ear of the world [thanx in part to sites like this]...lets get it together,...get the facts,...the evidence,...the "connections"[yes indeed!!]...right...and spill the entire deal for every one in the world to see and hear,...trust me on this,....ALL WCB,S...CANADA WIDE,...ARE CORRUPT...SOME MORE THAN OTHERS BUT YES ALL OF THEM!!!,..go after the corruption,...get the proof....and its there in spades,...and use it to change the world,...
remember this,...you psychopaths reading this[and we know all about that!! ha ha]...THERE ARE NO SECRETS ANYMORE!...WE WILL FIND OUT!! WE WILL TELL THE WORLD{you bet!!]...NAME NAMES DATES TIMES,...,...NO SECRETS!!!!,....we are coming for you!!...better put on yer very best sneakers,strap em on tite,turn around and....RUN!!!..RUN!!!...DONT STOP..DONT LOOK BACK!...WE WILL BE THERE!!,...and when we catch you??..well....best just to say,...and you can quote me on this one,..."WE WILL STRIKE OFF A VERY LONG LIST OF ABUSES"...i would not want to be in your shoes at this moment,...tamper with my kids and the gloves come all the way off!!!..and yes they are!!,...freakin psycho nutbar criminal,biker,druggie psychopaths that you are!!!,...we will get ya!!!,...and also,..we have told the "angels" just exactly who it was who fingered them[not I],..and they have yer names,...woo hooo,...screw with those boys and...well,...geeeeez louise,...what were you thinking??...anything at all???....queare??....did any of you "brilliant"...nutbars ever have the thought,..."what if I get caught doing this?"...anyone????,....god what a bunch of mental midgets,"challenged" ...individuals??...man what a life!!,...sooo,...John...just checking...you have covered the security issues no??...be carefull crossing the street,...change your locks,use security chains,...get arecorder and use it,...set them up for a fall and take it to the rcmp,...if I can do this so can you...I aint no "ORACLE",...create a "paper trail"...for safety,..go to msn groups wcb and follow the instructions...ask for credentials,...be assertive not agressive,..challenge the liars for the record,..and they will lie of course,...one of the flags for psychopathology is seamless lieing,...going from one lie to the next when caught at it with out a pause,...its information that will win this war!...and war it is!!!...if you or anyone else does not think so,...well,....let me relieve you of your confusion,..wcb,s will and do,...LIE,CHEAT,STEAL,.....MURDER IF YOU GET TOO CLOSE TO THE KICKBACK SCHEMES,...and thats where the real ripp is happening,...screwing with us injured is just the icing on the cake,...the "buddy"..scheme is rampent here and elsewhere,...foolish...foolish psycho,s.....screwing with the rcmp was a serious "mistake"...and this time!!!...this time eh!!!...its you who have to deal with the consequences of your ahem..."mistakes"....and they are severe!!!,...message for the perps out there,....THE RCMP HAVE SIEZED A COMPUTOR WITH ALL YOUR NAMES,ADDRESSES,PHONE NUMBERS,E-MAILS ADDRESSES....the works!!!!!,....YES INDEED!!...not only are we the injured coming for you[and yes we are!!!]...CSIS AND THE RCMP ARE AS WELL!!!,...and good luck telling them..."we did not know"...we thought perhaps"...we were not sure"...yeah...that will go over bIg with them...NOT!!!....morons!...geeez...thanx for all that evidence,..yes indeed!!,...ha ha ha,...yep...predictable all right!!...ha ha!,...yers "real" rob lawson[not wcb bc,s hired psycho freak,fakes an injury and collects for trashing my rep],...yes well,...the rcmp have you now too dont they??...better start practicin those blues...stock up on ky jelly,..ha ha,..you will need it,..and good luck staying alive when the rest of the criminals find out you are responsable for all their troubles,...yes indeed!!,...better run psycho boy!!...but they will get ya anyways,...yers R. name : r.c.lawson email : @shaw.ca
We have proven conlusivly that not only do they do this, but it seems it ok as long as you are injured???....if you are a faker they will put you on wage loss, keep you there [no oversite$$$$$]...and use you to harrass the legitimate injured,...the gang connection is a fact...CANADA WIDE!!!,...ask the rcmp...go ahead...its like this,....if you are injured, the criminals at wcb bc will have to take 2.5 to 3 million out of "the fund" and invest it to pay your pension,..you are not worth it [their words exactly]...sooo...some psychopath in their employ [virtualy 90 percent have serious psychopathic tendencies [scary no??]...will be "given"...ahem....500,000$$ to screw you big time,...and if that fails,..he will get another 500,000$$ to hire some thugs [bikers] and you will be killed for being injured,....as you are injured anyways its no great loss [again...their words]...sooo,...total costs...1 mill,...total savings...2 to 3 million$$$,....oh,...and as for the "buddies"...employee,s "friends, relatives, etc,...that fake an injury, et the fast track, stay on wage loss [remember...no oversite?]....and then split the take with the employee,...well,....
this kind of thing is rampent here in bc,..corruption at its worst,...and it goes all the way to the premiers office [and yes we have the goods on that one!...as do the mounties]...these "buddies" are the harrassers of people like you and me...hundreds of them!!...are at work here in b.latent c.orruption...with the consent of the province [remember...you are injured anyways so its OK!!]..some at the F.I.PP. office, some as "aides" to the premier [bikers no less!!]...some at hospitals and clinics,...and some at a certain bank of a royal nature[gotta clear those dirty cheques somewhere no??]...soooo......make no mistake....you will be killed for what you are doing,....vehicular homicide is a favorite [difficult to prove]...but there are other methods [with me they have tried messing with my meds...twice,...both times in a hospital]..and yes its documented,...my concern is for your safety,...are you???...safe I mean??....
have you taken measures so someone will at least look into it if you have an "accident"...???...yeah,yeah,...sounds paranoid dont it??...with good reason I can assure you!!,..if you get close to the corruption schemes,...well,...look out!!,...cover yer butt!!,...and it seems you are there already,...this is no game,...its deadly serious at this time,..these creatures will threaten and corrupt anyone any where.any time!!,...they do not care what happens to you unless you threaten the gravy train they are ALL ON!!,...and then /// watch out!!...scary stuff indeed,...
if I had not lived it for so many years I would have trouble believing some of the facts that have surfaced,...think about this...please!!,...if the "powers that be"[provincial] do not condone these actions,they can not happen???.....Gordo is as corrupt as the most psycho biker crack head dealer,...has to be!!!..as is the freedom of info ...gang....and the other goverment depts that have to "deal with us injured"....did ya notice the way they speak to you??...did ya notice the sense of entitlement they have??..the sinecure they seem to enjoy??...the big...big...BIG!!!!!...payoffs???....a million is the natural unit to these freaks,...no...its "cheaper if you die and reduce the surplus population"...[apologies to Dickens]...for them.
Dont waste yer time "appealing" to [sychopaths,...they just feed on it,its manna to a psychopath,...set them up for a fall...we have,...and the perps fell right into the trap [psychopaths are predictable...use it!!]....they tried murder by mountie with me, twice no less [even after the rcmp gave a sincere letter of apology]...yes indeed!...predictable,...I follow my grand fathers advice in this,..."If someone is yanking your halter?...give them some rope,and watch very carefully what they do with it"....and he was no boob,..fought in ww1, his sons,..all of them,,,faught in ww2 and Korea,...so we...their descendents could live in a world without this type of EUGENICS!,...an ugly...ugly...word,...but hey,..if the shoe fits no??...if targeting my kids is not eugenics...then what is???....
this province has snatched several billion from wcb,s coffers!!,...and are using it to finance such things as roads and olympics,...valuable things no doubt,...but that valuable we will kill for it??...here in bc [note no caps?]...its murder most foul!!,...did ya know wcb bc has admited to murdering 18 guys??...that they pay the families a pension for their murders??..that there are many...many...who die from the abuse[suicide is murder,in this case!!]...the stress??...the loss of everything??....going from highly paid specialist to welfare bum is not good for ones ego.,...
we have noticed that it is always the working guys who get the shaft,...not the pencil neck paper pushers,...also noticed that non high school graduates get the worst [useless...right??]...that the money goes to the criminals and their co-horts...and not to us injured,...get this,.....WCB,S CANADA WIDE HAVE SERIOUS CRIMINAL GANG CONNECTIONS AND ARE USING THEM FOR THE "WET WORK",....and yes we have proven this one big,big,big time!...its afact!!!its called "culpable deniability"...they can then say,..."oh that was not us...he must be a criminal as well"...[yes,been there,done that],...soooo,....now we have the ear of the world [thanx in part to sites like this]...lets get it together,...get the facts,...the evidence,...the "connections"[yes indeed!!]...right...and spill the entire deal for every one in the world to see and hear,...trust me on this,....ALL WCB,S...CANADA WIDE,...ARE CORRUPT...SOME MORE THAN OTHERS BUT YES ALL OF THEM!!!,..go after the corruption,...get the proof....and its there in spades,...and use it to change the world,...
remember this,...you psychopaths reading this[and we know all about that!! ha ha]...THERE ARE NO SECRETS ANYMORE!...WE WILL FIND OUT!! WE WILL TELL THE WORLD{you bet!!]...NAME NAMES DATES TIMES,...,...NO SECRETS!!!!,....we are coming for you!!...better put on yer very best sneakers,strap em on tite,turn around and....RUN!!!..RUN!!!...DONT STOP..DONT LOOK BACK!...WE WILL BE THERE!!,...and when we catch you??..well....best just to say,...and you can quote me on this one,..."WE WILL STRIKE OFF A VERY LONG LIST OF ABUSES"...i would not want to be in your shoes at this moment,...tamper with my kids and the gloves come all the way off!!!..and yes they are!!,...freakin psycho nutbar criminal,biker,druggie psychopaths that you are!!!,...we will get ya!!!,...and also,..we have told the "angels" just exactly who it was who fingered them[not I],..and they have yer names,...woo hooo,...screw with those boys and...well,...geeeeez louise,...what were you thinking??...anything at all???....queare??....did any of you "brilliant"...nutbars ever have the thought,..."what if I get caught doing this?"...anyone????,....god what a bunch of mental midgets,"challenged" ...individuals??...man what a life!!,...sooo,...John...just checking...you have covered the security issues no??...be carefull crossing the street,...change your locks,use security chains,...get arecorder and use it,...set them up for a fall and take it to the rcmp,...if I can do this so can you...I aint no "ORACLE",...create a "paper trail"...for safety,..go to msn groups wcb and follow the instructions...ask for credentials,...be assertive not agressive,..challenge the liars for the record,..and they will lie of course,...one of the flags for psychopathology is seamless lieing,...going from one lie to the next when caught at it with out a pause,...its information that will win this war!...and war it is!!!...if you or anyone else does not think so,...well,....let me relieve you of your confusion,..wcb,s will and do,...LIE,CHEAT,STEAL,.....MURDER IF YOU GET TOO CLOSE TO THE KICKBACK SCHEMES,...and thats where the real ripp is happening,...screwing with us injured is just the icing on the cake,...the "buddy"..scheme is rampent here and elsewhere,...foolish...foolish psycho,s.....screwing with the rcmp was a serious "mistake"...and this time!!!...this time eh!!!...its you who have to deal with the consequences of your ahem..."mistakes"....and they are severe!!!,...message for the perps out there,....THE RCMP HAVE SIEZED A COMPUTOR WITH ALL YOUR NAMES,ADDRESSES,PHONE NUMBERS,E-MAILS ADDRESSES....the works!!!!!,....YES INDEED!!...not only are we the injured coming for you[and yes we are!!!]...CSIS AND THE RCMP ARE AS WELL!!!,...and good luck telling them..."we did not know"...we thought perhaps"...we were not sure"...yeah...that will go over bIg with them...NOT!!!....morons!...geeez...thanx for all that evidence,..yes indeed!!,...ha ha ha,...yep...predictable all right!!...ha ha!,...yers "real" rob lawson[not wcb bc,s hired psycho freak,fakes an injury and collects for trashing my rep],...yes well,...the rcmp have you now too dont they??...better start practicin those blues...stock up on ky jelly,..ha ha,..you will need it,..and good luck staying alive when the rest of the criminals find out you are responsable for all their troubles,...yes indeed!!,...better run psycho boy!!...but they will get ya anyways,...yers R. name : r.c.lawson email : @shaw.ca
June 24, 2008
Yea, if I had only known howI was going to be mistreated by workers CON-pensation, I too would have stated that it happened away from work. MAYBE then I would have gotten medical HELP.
Another injured worker told me the first question that he was asked when he finally got to the specialist was: is this a work injury and is CON-pensation involved? When he told the specialist that it was a result of the work injury but that CON-pensation CON ARTISTS had denied his claim, the specialist stated that there wasn't anything wrong with him, (HE had mri of herniated disc showing nerve impingement ) SO HOW CAN THEIR BE NOTHING WRONG?
CON- PENSATION CON ARTISTS / CON ARTIST DOCTORS / What the hell is actually going on is RIDICULOUS ... WHY is this government allowing everyone to abuse injured workers who need medical intervention..
NOW I KNOW WHY OUR GOVERNMENT TOOK ALL THE HANDGUNS AWAY..!!!
June 24, 2008
Great injured worker skypecast on skype if you don't have skype download from www.skype.com it is free time to act as one!!! spread the word.
Sorry forgot the skypecast name www.skype.com free talk chat time for action. Skypecast name is pwned injured worker or add pwnedinjuredworker as a contact.
June 23, 2008
i have a friend that is a registered nurse and she said that she is seeing alot of injured workers trying to get medical help without claiming it on WCB.I witnessed this at a local Vancouver hospital myself this is probly being done because these people fear losing their jobs and livily hoods.
name : drywallrocker
name : drywallrocker
June 19, 2008
READ ABOUT BAD FAITH INSURANCE CLAIM PRACTICE: You may want to file a lawsuit if your Con-pensation board has treated you with bad faith; http://www.personal-injury-info.net/badfaith-insuranceclaims.htm http://www.badfaithinsurance.org/definitions.html)
Many injured workers whose claims have been administered in bad faith can and should file a lawsuit for DAMAGES. (Class Action Lawsuits are cheaper for injured workers as no upfront money is needed as the Attorney takes % of each claimants award) By bringing the lawsuit and proving the case, CON-pensation Boards in Canada will be held accountable.
June 19, 2008
nobody can put a lein on your wcb settlement because the wcb put a act into place to stop this so no lawyer will take your case pro-bono the settlement can only go to you so anyone thinking that he can get a lawyer without cash is dreaming.
name : Type your name here (optional).Drywallrocker
June 19, 2008
Calling anybody names, comparing them to Nazis, thugs, bikers, etc. does nothing to help lend any credibility to what are (or were) legitimate complaints. You get more flies with honey, honey.
name : Just A Guy
June 18, 2008
Links to how injured workers deal with the true WorkSafe B.C, post these and tell everyone, post some comments on my videos the more the better...
Fighting WorkSafe B.C The EVIDENCE Pt 1
Forward this message to EVERYONE
PLEASE ,we need to tell the WORLD!!!
Injured Workers Need to fight for their life,
If it was you what would you do?? Please Help ,the SIW we are just trying to move on and deal with the multiple injuries we have with stood. IT COULD BE YOU ??
Fighting WorkSafe B.C The EVIDENCE Pt 2
Peace John B
Fighting WorkSafe B.C The EVIDENCE Pt 1
Forward this message to EVERYONE
PLEASE ,we need to tell the WORLD!!!
Injured Workers Need to fight for their life,
If it was you what would you do?? Please Help ,the SIW we are just trying to move on and deal with the multiple injuries we have with stood. IT COULD BE YOU ??
Fighting WorkSafe B.C The EVIDENCE Pt 2
Peace John B
June 17, 2008
You are right about representation getting ever more difficult; thank the government and Bill 14.
Try your local MPP's office; ask if a constituency assistant can represent you as they have an exemption from the Law Society of Upper Canada.
After all they are the good folks who write the legislation that governs WSIB.
You could also ask the Minister of Labour, Brad Duguid, as WSIB falls under his portfolio:
Constituency Office
204 - 1450 Midland Ave
Scarborough ON M1P 4Z8
Tel 416-615-2183
Fax 416-615-2011 bduguid.mpp@liberal.ola.org You can also try this free law clinic, IAVGO: IAVGO is a community legal aid clinic funded by Legal Aid Ontario since 1975. We serve the injured worker community in Ontario. How you can reach us:
489 College Street, Suite 203,
Toronto, ON M6G 1A5
Phone: 416-924-6477
Toll-free in Ontario: 1-877-230-6311
Please, do not think I am being facetious or dismissing your problems. There are very few options left to injured workers in Ontario, or across the country. As economic times get harder the government looks to cut costs and those least able to fight back bear the brunt, the homeless, the sick, students, the working poor, you get the idea. You may have noticed that while the Toronto Star and the Globe came out like gangbusters on the NEER rebate issue, that the focus swiftly disappeared and injured workers are once again ignored and SOL. Just part of the cost of doing business.
204 - 1450 Midland Ave
Scarborough ON M1P 4Z8
Tel 416-615-2183
Fax 416-615-2011 bduguid.mpp@liberal.ola.org You can also try this free law clinic, IAVGO: IAVGO is a community legal aid clinic funded by Legal Aid Ontario since 1975. We serve the injured worker community in Ontario. How you can reach us:
489 College Street, Suite 203,
Toronto, ON M6G 1A5
Phone: 416-924-6477
Toll-free in Ontario: 1-877-230-6311
Please, do not think I am being facetious or dismissing your problems. There are very few options left to injured workers in Ontario, or across the country. As economic times get harder the government looks to cut costs and those least able to fight back bear the brunt, the homeless, the sick, students, the working poor, you get the idea. You may have noticed that while the Toronto Star and the Globe came out like gangbusters on the NEER rebate issue, that the focus swiftly disappeared and injured workers are once again ignored and SOL. Just part of the cost of doing business.
June 17, 2008
June 16 2008, Thanks for the new name, Love it. 2nd of all been there and done it and read it.Tell me something,we already don,t no. Anyways thanks for the new name. Sincerely Potential Head Basher LOL.3rd of all I just asked if anyone else has ever had WSIB tack on and not no how they come up with the figure, and when you ask you get a thousand different replies, and they don,t have a answer. And has for a lawyer if you have some or lots of money or know of anyone, throws some my way.As for representative, my husband contacted back 3 years ago here in Windsor the man said he was an EX WSIB worker and do charge a fee. And the other Injured Workers Groups can only sear you in the right direction, of how to fill in the proper steps of papers or give advice like this site. But thanks anyways. Potential Head Basher.
June 16, 2008
Potential Headbasher;
At the best of times, it is impossible to comment accurately as to how to address a claim related issue, unless there is a copy of the claim file to review. Without knowledge of your husband's specific claim details it is impossible to offer any helpful suggestions other than to suggest that you speak to a qualified worker's representative or lawyer, or, that you read the Operational Policy Manual document relevant to this issue in order to be able to phrase your questions better. Recovery of Benefit Related Debts (18-01-04)
http://www.wsib.on.ca/wsib/wopm.nsf/Public/180104 The following link has a list of WSIAT Appeal related topics:
http://www.wsiat.on.ca/english/appeals_2007/index.htm#posthearing
At the best of times, it is impossible to comment accurately as to how to address a claim related issue, unless there is a copy of the claim file to review. Without knowledge of your husband's specific claim details it is impossible to offer any helpful suggestions other than to suggest that you speak to a qualified worker's representative or lawyer, or, that you read the Operational Policy Manual document relevant to this issue in order to be able to phrase your questions better. Recovery of Benefit Related Debts (18-01-04)
http://www.wsib.on.ca/wsib/wopm.nsf/Public/180104 The following link has a list of WSIAT Appeal related topics:
http://www.wsiat.on.ca/english/appeals_2007/index.htm#posthearing
June 16, 2008
re;wcb olympics,lets see how fast these creatures can get themselves out of jail??...or how about a trophy for the most corrupt employee??...or perhaps they can have psychopath olympics,where they all lie to each other and the best liar wins??..a trophy for the most destroyed lives?...another for the most children they have driven to poverty and despair//...or here,s a good one,...a gold plated hand gun for the most suicides directly caused by the employee??...I have some names for that one....and he/she will need the hand gun in the future!!,...messing with someones kids is just asking for it,...and we all know[except wcb psycho,s it seems]...how dangerous it is to tamper with someones kids....not something I will do,...they seem to love it though,...child abuse by proxy,...sick,sick,sick!!,...how about a trophy for who has hoodwinked the RCMP the most times???...stiff competition for that one indeed,...also we must remember the loser lawyers that keep getting wcb nutcases off for their crimes??....how do they sleep at nite??...who knows??...I recently asked one just how it feels when he knows he has gotten some psychopathic wcb employee off for his/her crimes when the lawyer knows for a fact he/she is guilty as sin....of course I am still awaiting his no doubt interesting reply,..check out my post at msn groups wcb re;lawyers,....funny thing....ever since I stated that wcb would try to have me killed,[2001] for all to see,....every contact at wcb bc has been a lawyer,....every one!!!,...yes indeed,wcb employees committ terrible crimes and then get the finest legal representation....fully paid by wcb.....what do we the injured get you ask??....well,....they get the gold mine,we get the shaft...a few honourable dedicated souls really do try,...but hell,...unlimited funds,legal carte blanche,no repercussions for their actions[legal ones anyways,like I said,dont tamper with children,..these ones get all the repercussions they deserve!!],...yes indeed!!!...its...PSYCHOPATH HEAVEN!!!,...an entire carton of nutbar supremes,...and message to wcb bc,...saw your creepy nutcase Goulding lurking near my home,...make sure he understands the consequences,...they are severe!!!,...and it will happen,...count on it!!,...now there,s a guy I would love to meet alone,...been tampering with my family for 30 years!!,...a real nutcase!!,...yes indeed!!!,...and I do know where he lives,...ah well,...what will be will be....as the song says,...yers from the best coast,...Rob....Monica?...something wrong with the last one??...let me know please what...thanx...rob,...pss,..just trying to help people thats all,..I never!...ever!..play games...life is too short for that,...anyways,...hihowarya?..Rob.psss,...big,big$$$...in the works,...wcb,bc,royal bank...no less!!...federal!!,..R.
name : r.c.lawson @shaw.ca
name : r.c.lawson @shaw.ca
June 16, 2008
This is in regard to the first annual Sask wcb olympics. I don,t have a complete list of events,however I will inform those interested as I am informed. This one is "BROKEN BACK HOLE IN THE SHOULDER SWIM". Retired wcb employees will have their legs tied at the knees and one of their arms restrained {their choice of wing}. Then during speed boat racing they will compete. I almost forgot, First {gold} will be a one year stay at the prestigious WASCANNA DEATH CAMP Second {silver} will get the lucky devil a two year stay. Future prizes to be announced at a later date. If I offend, too bad.
June 16, 2008
Hey drywallrocker, good idea, maybe all us injured and disabled workers who have been f/around should go there and start a protest, to bring some attention to our plight as injured workers....However we probably will get our skulls bashed in by the THUGS who are paid by GOVERNMENT to ignore the atrocities that are taking place against innocent defenseless disabled workers.
I am with you if you choose to go, but will come prepared with my son's hockey helmet, shoulder pads etc.... I already have a multiple spinal injury, that CON-pensation thinks is only a mild injury, "NO REASON FOR PAIN" and several other injuries that CON-pensation has DENIED me medical help for.
June 16, 2008
Links on the true WSBC post these ones and tell everyone, post some comments on my videos the more the better...
Fighting WorkSafe B.C The EVIDENCE Pt 1
Forward this message to EVERYONE PLEASE, we need to tell the WORLD!!!
Injured Workers Need to fight for their life,
If it was you what would you do?? Please Help ,the SIW we are just trying to move on and deal with the multiple injuries we have with stood.
Fighting WorkSafe B.C The EVIDENCE Pt 2 Peace John B
Fighting WorkSafe B.C The EVIDENCE Pt 1
Forward this message to EVERYONE PLEASE, we need to tell the WORLD!!!
Injured Workers Need to fight for their life,
If it was you what would you do?? Please Help ,the SIW we are just trying to move on and deal with the multiple injuries we have with stood.
Fighting WorkSafe B.C The EVIDENCE Pt 2 Peace John B
June 16, 2008
If you are in the same situation as I am, then this is starting to look like the only way out, other than suicide:
http://healthzone.ca/health/article/431891
June 12, 2008
Hey maybe a bunch of injured workers should pickett a few of the olympic events bet you would get some news coverage there.
name : drywallrocker
June 12, 2008
Hello Injured workers I have a question. My husband,as I said before won his appeal, thru the final Tribunal. Is it my understanding that both my husband and I read (WSIB) had 30 days to respond because he won partial of his appeal back in february had until I believe March 26 which was 30 days after that decision from the final tribunal decision,to answer, was when WSIB had to respond. Ok so they did and the adjudicator told my husband it was the FINAL DECISION.Ok we got that so she said make payments to the collection department Ok we did now 3 months later, a senior collection person tacks on 25000 plus 3800 hundred was the figure she worked out and was sent back in march, now says he owes 29000 thousand 3months after the final decision was made. I,m just not getting this.IS THE FINAL TRIBUNAL THE FINAL SAY. She said yes to my husband back in March now the other day she said WSIB can do what they want. Please anyone else been thru shit like this. Please help.I,m down in Windsor Area.Anything Please I,m confused. These f___in people one hand don,t know what the other hand is doing. PLEASE HELP.Before (I)the wife goes in a bashes some heads in.
June 11, 2008
Listen UP everybody!
Here's a plan to help injured and disabled workers, families, friends, and fellow citizens: We have all been changed in some way from our injuries / circumstances: It's quite apparent that if we want change we will have to "BRING IT ON" so to speak. Many sick and injured workers, whose rights have been taken, are suffering and dying. NOTHING IS CHANGING fast enough to help these souls. "I HAVE A PLAN" to speed up some changes... That we needed way back when . We need you to help set the record straight for the last time in history. Time is of the essence; only from effort will we immediately get change and obtain retribution. ********If "ANYONE" wants to help. NOW IS THE TIME.******* We all know how this system works; NOW time has come to push for the long awaited changes that need to be made. Only through perseverance, dedication and purpose will we make this difference. I write to you as an injured worker of 5 yrs. that has given much thought to the the many problems, that we are subjected too. We need any help you can give, we are not soliciting money from you, asking you to perform any services for free, we just need help getting the WORD out, about what we hope to accomplish, are goals can be very easily reached in a short period of time. Whatever your circumstances are, we need you to help make these nessaccary changes that should have been made long ago. Please join with us, to make 2008 the year of change. A few last words before we get started, we operate legit, that means honestly and without violence or any forms of harassment. Our objective is to benefit society as a whole with our experiences and at the same time, have fun while we reach our goals. Please email: for further information and to get involved for the benefit of the citizens of Canada. Thank You, Sincerely, Bruce Junker FIXWCBCANADA@GMAIL.COM
Here's a plan to help injured and disabled workers, families, friends, and fellow citizens: We have all been changed in some way from our injuries / circumstances: It's quite apparent that if we want change we will have to "BRING IT ON" so to speak. Many sick and injured workers, whose rights have been taken, are suffering and dying. NOTHING IS CHANGING fast enough to help these souls. "I HAVE A PLAN" to speed up some changes... That we needed way back when . We need you to help set the record straight for the last time in history. Time is of the essence; only from effort will we immediately get change and obtain retribution. ********If "ANYONE" wants to help. NOW IS THE TIME.******* We all know how this system works; NOW time has come to push for the long awaited changes that need to be made. Only through perseverance, dedication and purpose will we make this difference. I write to you as an injured worker of 5 yrs. that has given much thought to the the many problems, that we are subjected too. We need any help you can give, we are not soliciting money from you, asking you to perform any services for free, we just need help getting the WORD out, about what we hope to accomplish, are goals can be very easily reached in a short period of time. Whatever your circumstances are, we need you to help make these nessaccary changes that should have been made long ago. Please join with us, to make 2008 the year of change. A few last words before we get started, we operate legit, that means honestly and without violence or any forms of harassment. Our objective is to benefit society as a whole with our experiences and at the same time, have fun while we reach our goals. Please email: for further information and to get involved for the benefit of the citizens of Canada. Thank You, Sincerely, Bruce Junker FIXWCBCANADA@GMAIL.COM
June 11, 2008
I was injured at work and am now disabled for life.
My ex-employer is appealing every single wcb decision, so now they have hired private investigators that follow me every where. There is already one video submitted to wcb (which shows things I said I can do, so I don't know what the big deal is).
I am not committing fraud. I live with a lot of pain every day and have many limitations that do not allow me to work. I would love to work! I miss it very much.
I am sure I am not the only one that has private investigators following me, so I thought I would share this website with you:
http://www.expertvillage.com/video/47118_vehicle-surveillance-time.htm
This web site shows a bunch of videos of a private investigator telling all their tricks and secrets on how to conduct surveillance on us injured workers. I read about private investigator techniques and counter surveillance. Now it's very easy to spot them. When you think you are being followed, just stop (in your vehicle or on foot) and just wait. If the person/car following you doesn't move, then you likely found them. Then turn around and follow them. This will let them know you spotted them, and then they will most likely back off for a while and leave you alone. Some other things you can do is slow down, change your route, stop, use reflective surfaces to watch them, see if someone is hoovering around you, if they buy food that doesn't need to stay cold, if they look out of place compared to other people, etc. Don't develop habits either while driving. Take different routes and pull over once in a while or just slow down and see if someone stays behind you. Also beware of hang ups (to see if you are home) or strangers that ask very personal information about your injury. A lot of p.i.'s are fresh out of school, or retired cops, and they often work in pairs. There's lots of information on line, so educate yourself. Don't let them get away with it. It's invasion of our privacy and harrassment. Hope the videos help. Good luck and have fun with it! You might as well make a game out of it instead of letting it get to you. Just don't become obsessed/paranoid and drive safe on the roads. If you aren't committing fraud, and you truly are injured, then you have nothing to worry about. (but it's still fun to waste money of who ever hired the p.i.'s! hahahaha!) name : IW Fighting back.
This web site shows a bunch of videos of a private investigator telling all their tricks and secrets on how to conduct surveillance on us injured workers. I read about private investigator techniques and counter surveillance. Now it's very easy to spot them. When you think you are being followed, just stop (in your vehicle or on foot) and just wait. If the person/car following you doesn't move, then you likely found them. Then turn around and follow them. This will let them know you spotted them, and then they will most likely back off for a while and leave you alone. Some other things you can do is slow down, change your route, stop, use reflective surfaces to watch them, see if someone is hoovering around you, if they buy food that doesn't need to stay cold, if they look out of place compared to other people, etc. Don't develop habits either while driving. Take different routes and pull over once in a while or just slow down and see if someone stays behind you. Also beware of hang ups (to see if you are home) or strangers that ask very personal information about your injury. A lot of p.i.'s are fresh out of school, or retired cops, and they often work in pairs. There's lots of information on line, so educate yourself. Don't let them get away with it. It's invasion of our privacy and harrassment. Hope the videos help. Good luck and have fun with it! You might as well make a game out of it instead of letting it get to you. Just don't become obsessed/paranoid and drive safe on the roads. If you aren't committing fraud, and you truly are injured, then you have nothing to worry about. (but it's still fun to waste money of who ever hired the p.i.'s! hahahaha!) name : IW Fighting back.
June 10, 2008
BCIT reporter Adam Nasif on WorkSafe B.C.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tep7KuAxxao
UBC reporter Ian Bickis on WorkSafe B.C.
http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/vnn/711867414.html
Injured Workers John Berfelo reports on WorkSafe B.C and how they treat Seriously Injured Workers. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJTSmRD_E3g
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tep7KuAxxao
UBC reporter Ian Bickis on WorkSafe B.C.
http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/vnn/711867414.html
Injured Workers John Berfelo reports on WorkSafe B.C and how they treat Seriously Injured Workers. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJTSmRD_E3g
June 10, 2008
This summer there will be the first wcb annual olympics. They will be held in Saskatoon. Note, these are open to all retired wcb employees. One of the events is bungy jumping from the freeway overpass in rush hour traffic. Please bring your own {and I do mean bought and payed for} MD. Cerimonies begin as you arrive. SHOULDER AND SPINE EXPERIMENT
June 4, 2008
Speaking of good or interesting links, check out http://www.awcbc.org/
Here you'll find the home page of the Association of Workers Compensation Boards of Canada.
Here you'll find the home page of the Association of Workers Compensation Boards of Canada.
June 4, 2008
I have been a reader and contributor here at Ciwa for a few years now and would like to thank Ciwa for the space that has been provided to injured workers and families. It truly has been an experience being hurt on the job and being thrust into the Workers Con-pensation system.
What I have learned from being injured is just unbelievable, WCB puppy-mill physicians, specialists, neurosurgeons, physiotherapists, are all in collusion with CON-pensation.. Case managers practicing medicine with out a license. WCB medical advisor's that never see you; reword information or place false information in your file to DENY you help.
Premiers of all provinces and their cabinet ministers all state they can't get involved due to CON-pensation being at arms length, which allows them to injure you further.
The real truth is that Canada's Leaders like to see people suffer, we are a commodity that can easily be replaced, and right now our leaders are looking to other countries for employees to bring to Canada to take the jobs we were hurt on. It would cost too much money to fix us, so we are taken out like yesterdays trash.
If our Leaders really cared, they would make sure that WORKERS CON-PENSATION follows Statutes and Acts that they have put in place under the Meredith Principle. HOWEVER, by not doing their jobs at protecting us from this abusive system, they are equally guilty of Breach of Statutory Duty.
NOW! In Saskatchewan we have formed a class action lawsuit against the Saskatchewan Government; they have been delinquent in their job duties. This is just the tip of the iceberg, WCB will also be receiving a lawsuit for their BAD FAITH INSURANCE CLAIM PRACTICES.
cbclassaction@fastmail.fm
June 4, 2008
Monika,
Thanks for taking the time to sift through all the e-mails. You're doing a great job!
I just wanted to write and thank the person who posted:
http://www.canlii.org/
What an incredible website! I looked up court cases similar to mine and it has taken so much weight off me. I am no longer worried about loosing my appeals. My lawyer told me that I will win my case, but to actually read cases just like mine and to know they won is such a relief. Thank you! It's cool that I can look up all my doctors and see what they have been involved in, and even my union, my ex employer, my lawyer, etc. I recommend all IW's read some court cases on that web site and learn what other people have gone through so you know what is coming your way. I found a neat website today. Some of you have probably found it, but I thought I would post it for those who haven't. http://www.wsiat.on.ca/english/wsiatDocs/mlo/limping_screen.htm
It's the Workplace Safety and Insurance Appeals Tribunal webpage. They have posted Medical Discussions that explain our diagnoses and injuries in detail. You just enter the words associated to your injury/diagnoses and then it lists Medical Discussions with that information in it. It is easy reading and has pictures/diagrams to help you understand it. I think it's good to read it so you know what your doctors are talking about. It also lists what to expect in the future. Don't focus on the negatives though. Learn from it and prepare yourself for what may happen. I read something the other day and it's really helped me, so I thought I would pass it on. Sometimes there is no answer as to why things happen the way they happen. Accept the fact that there is no an answer as to why our injury happened and move on with life. We only live once. Learn to accept the new you. Live positive, and make sure to laugh every day because laughter is truly the best medicine. Good luck to all IW's and their families. Keep fighting and don't let them win! name : Young IW
What an incredible website! I looked up court cases similar to mine and it has taken so much weight off me. I am no longer worried about loosing my appeals. My lawyer told me that I will win my case, but to actually read cases just like mine and to know they won is such a relief. Thank you! It's cool that I can look up all my doctors and see what they have been involved in, and even my union, my ex employer, my lawyer, etc. I recommend all IW's read some court cases on that web site and learn what other people have gone through so you know what is coming your way. I found a neat website today. Some of you have probably found it, but I thought I would post it for those who haven't. http://www.wsiat.on.ca/english/wsiatDocs/mlo/limping_screen.htm
It's the Workplace Safety and Insurance Appeals Tribunal webpage. They have posted Medical Discussions that explain our diagnoses and injuries in detail. You just enter the words associated to your injury/diagnoses and then it lists Medical Discussions with that information in it. It is easy reading and has pictures/diagrams to help you understand it. I think it's good to read it so you know what your doctors are talking about. It also lists what to expect in the future. Don't focus on the negatives though. Learn from it and prepare yourself for what may happen. I read something the other day and it's really helped me, so I thought I would pass it on. Sometimes there is no answer as to why things happen the way they happen. Accept the fact that there is no an answer as to why our injury happened and move on with life. We only live once. Learn to accept the new you. Live positive, and make sure to laugh every day because laughter is truly the best medicine. Good luck to all IW's and their families. Keep fighting and don't let them win! name : Young IW
June 3, 2008
What impact did june 1 have to change this abuse on us injured ? News could careless if there is no impact! Now why no impact because injured workers don't have there act together it's time to act as one force. This will not happen till unions and organizers of labour get as one for the injured to stand up for the rights of there workers before they get injured and jump head first to the poor side of the fence. This is not for those that have a job to goto that makes a better then low mid income. I have been with 3 large unions and now looking at them and asking myself why are they wasting money when they could have all come together as one body to fight for everyones rights when we get injured. What would happen if we marched up bay st and close it for some time and moaned and gowned around Queens Park. then maybe they would notice this one body. boy sure hear the big boys when contract comes up time to start including injury loss of family friends home life. time to act big boys.
oh yea you get a failing grade keep hiding and enjoy your stamps your family must be proud BOO injured are suffering the only way is to have one chapter that works and helps your injured. years of paying in to you job closes you too dont want injured cattle no good to you too. keep wasting your money. workers it maybe you on this side of the fence the no money side old useless injured cattle. Speak up can't hear you can someone give the what happening news so i can have a heads up. needing my morph meds.
June 2, 2008
Finally, after sifting through almost 2,000 junk emails for the last 4 hours or so, a long process on dial-up I must say, here are the posts that came through while I was on vacation. I hope I haven't missed or deleted any thinking they were spam. Let me know if I have missed any. Thanks for your patience. Monika
June 2, 2008
well,so much repetition,the same old same old for us and the gravy train for the criminals,...thats canada for ya,...we do not call this b.astard c.riminal for nothing,...all you out there in the ether really need to understand that you are caught up in criminal conspiracy that is the biggest human rights crime since the 2nd world war,...here we have exposed the "buddy system"...read kickback schemes for all to see,....thousands of injured canadians are.were being threatened and abused by the same people involved in the kickbacks,...culpable deniability is what its called,...it goes like this,..some psychopath in the employ of wcb bc [or any other but bc is the worst of the worst],...has a "buddy" friend,relative,...fake an injury,usualy a nerve injury[dificult to prove],...gets the fast track thanx to their "buddy"...goes on wage loss...stays on wage loss[unwatched set of books]...and they split the take with their "buddies" at wcb,s,...this is the real crime!...this is what "they" do not want you the injured to know about,..and get this,...these "buddies" are the ones used to harrass and intimidate the legitimate injured,...again...culpable deniability,...how do I know this??...experience!...long...dangerous...experience!...for all of you out there jumping through hoop after hoop to no avail,..be aware,...every bit of onfo you give these creatures will be used as a weapon against you...EVERY BIT!...INCLUDING YOUR CONFIDENTIAL MEDICAL FILES,.....yes indeedy,....next thing you know every psycopath in the area will be reading and acting on your confidential information,...again,,,experience,...there is s very good reason we experienced people call them..."le clubbe de psycho"....you bet!...its a psychopath network,connected to the gangs,and other criminalnetworks,...that is stealing the funds for your and mine care and have been for decades,...billions of $$$$$...has somehow..."disapeared"...ahem...well,we followed the money/paper trail,...and lo and behold,...sure enough...the nasties have the whip hand at all wcb,s....ALL OF THEM!...CANADA WIDE!!!,...the guy speaking of being followed by "investigators"...be scared!...you just had serious contact with the "buddies"....and the survielence is not to prove you are not injured,..its to prove they are justified in stealing your money,....its a known psychopath trait,..and a common one!!,...heck...we busted over 40 in this wee small town alone who were in on this,...and some were very well placed indivicuals who had the power to screw with your life if they choose,...and they always do...choose!,...another psychopathic trait/flag.In fact the trail of crimes led right to the premiers office,..no surprise there!..."they" have asked me this:..."you will be a "gentleman" over this wont you"??...."gentle" man......not bloody likely!....I am not and never will go along with anyones crimes....EVER!!...regardless of who and what they are,...no we are into kicking some gluteus maximus,...wearing size 9 cork boots as well!,...you bet!,...message for you psycho,s out there,...WE HAVE YOUR NUMBER!...WE KNOW WHERE YOU LIVE!...AND WE ARE COMING FOR YOU!!....count on it!!!!!,....sick,nutbbar,psychopathic nutcases that you are,...you will run!...cowards always do!,...itsa sure sign!!,...sniveling,groveling,disgusting,...abusers of children and the injured get no respect from me,...eeeeuuuuuwwwwww,....how utterly disgusting you freaks are to us!!,...man what a stench!!!...CORRUPTION!!,...we smell corruption!!!...big time corruption!!...large $$$$$ corruption,....political corruption!!,....yes indeady!,...better learn to sing them blues,...oh, my baby lft me/havent got a dime/just got arrested/now I am doin time"....yes indeed,...in with the baby killers and skin criminals where you all belong!!,...protective custody because you will be scragged in minutes when the rest find out you are wcb,...be scared you psycho,s!!...the party is over!!...thanx to the feds we now have the club hand,...well done mr Harper!!,..very well done!!,...gang laws...proceeds of crime...id theft...fraud...collusion...there is no shortage of evidence,...just a shortage of hero,s,...I am taking this opportunity to call agin for a ....WCB WHISTLEBLOWER....any of you at Le clubbe de psycho...have a conscience?...any one???....let us know and we will not only have you protected but will act on the information with...alacrity!!,...90 PERCENT OF YOU ARE KNOWN PSYCHOPATHS,......but that leaves the meagre 10 percent who are not,...any of you sickened by the crimes gainst children and the injured??....ANYONE????,...well...enough for now,..from the best coast of this great,corrupt..land,...Rob.
June 2, 2008
At the end of April I was instructed to contact the Saskatoon branch of EQUAL JUSTICE FOR ALL.I did that and they took my name and ph num.Said they would call back soon. I waited 24 days and called them. They again took my name and after a short pause I heard someone in the background say "tell him we dont do wcb cases. Stange the fellow I was talking to said at first they do wcb claims. Just not mine, I guess they got abetter offer. Some are definitely MORE EQUAL THAN I. SHOULDER AND SPINE EXPERIMENT P.S. Seems like everyones making a buck off my blood. Their DNA is all over my corrupted file.
June 2, 2008
Sad, sad ,sad is the way I discribe WCB ! They treat us like there are some blessed saints, or that forget get there pay checks, profits from us, the worker and employer? I had a great career (aprentice) and no longer able to perform and now I'm being forced into a dead end job that I can't even tolerate (pain tolerance) and no advancement and not able to move with my kids because I have a job, what options do I realy have 1/ stay hear (alone with no help) and to small of a check to survive do to the rising cost of living or 2/ quit and have no income ,no way to make (real career) money on welfare ? WHAT A PLACE THEY PUT US ,not looking for a hand out or even compansation, just some RESPECT
June 2, 2008
Recently I was on CPAC.It was a radio talk show from the Maritimes and it was an open show. I tried to get the message across that wcb,s across Canada were victimizing IW,s.The host didn,t seem to want this information out to the rest of Canada. But to my rescue came Ms. Dodd.She called in and attempted to set the record straight.We are only on this earth for a short period of time so one could only guess the reasons for the medias torpid response to such abuse right here in their own country. SHOULDER AND SPINE EXPERIMENT P.S. I know I deserve better my children deserve better. I didn,t do anything wrong
June 2, 2008
Hi Everyone,
I was injured in May 2002 while I was working as a dealer in a casino. I developed a repetitive stress injury, go figure. I filed a claim and was quickly turned down even before they received my medical reports. Their excuse? They couldn't find any casual relation to my injury and the job. I appealed and a year later I won my appeal. The pain was extreme and neither cortisone shots nor physio helped. They decided to operate. I came out of the operation with my arm and hand in a cast and when the cast was removed I was left with a claw for a hand. They now diagnosed me with Reflex Sympathetic Dystropy (Chronic Pain) and I spent the next 1 1/2 yrs. at physio in order to straighten my fingers. I spent the same amount of time 3x/week at the pain clinic guenethedine and ganglion shots all paid for by WSIB. They put me in an LMR and because of the once handed typing and writing I developed tennis elbow in the right hand. The case workers told me they would be advising WSIB, my doctors sent letters etc.. Life goes on, I have had numerous adjudicators who were all given this information and updates on my condition.
I cannot get a job because they put me in an occupation that requires lots of typing and writing. I cant even get a job in a clothing store because I cant carry or do much of anything with my one arm. I cant even button a blouse, hold a knife and fork (I used to enjoy going out for dinner, no longer), I have no social life, and I pretty much go to bed hoping not to wake up the next day. I am on heavy pain med's, sleep aids, anti-depressants,and pretty much a mess. They deny that I am seriously injured and I am now pretty much on my own. But get this, they called me just prior to my 72 month review and advised me that I would be receiving an increase in benefits and that I should go for a nel assessment because I would probably receive more money. A week later I received a letter stating that I am now cut off. I telephoned the adjudicator and asked her what had happened and she replied "you must have misunderstood me". I always have someone listening in on any conversations with WSIB, were we both mistaken??
I was foolish enough to believe that they were here to help.
My thoughts and prayers are with you all.
name : Silly me
I cannot get a job because they put me in an occupation that requires lots of typing and writing. I cant even get a job in a clothing store because I cant carry or do much of anything with my one arm. I cant even button a blouse, hold a knife and fork (I used to enjoy going out for dinner, no longer), I have no social life, and I pretty much go to bed hoping not to wake up the next day. I am on heavy pain med's, sleep aids, anti-depressants,and pretty much a mess. They deny that I am seriously injured and I am now pretty much on my own. But get this, they called me just prior to my 72 month review and advised me that I would be receiving an increase in benefits and that I should go for a nel assessment because I would probably receive more money. A week later I received a letter stating that I am now cut off. I telephoned the adjudicator and asked her what had happened and she replied "you must have misunderstood me". I always have someone listening in on any conversations with WSIB, were we both mistaken??
I was foolish enough to believe that they were here to help.
My thoughts and prayers are with you all.
name : Silly me
June 2, 2008
Sudbury Widow files $4.1 Million personal injury lawsuit as a result of the death of her husband. Plaintiffs named so far are Dynatec Corp, Fnx Mining and Sherritt International. A company engineer is also named. Secondary lawsuit issues refer to Standard Life Canada. (possible misappropration of funds), from payroll deductions.
Rob
On Behalf of the Widow.
See the Sudbury Star May 12/2008
Rob
On Behalf of the Widow.
See the Sudbury Star May 12/2008
May 21, 2008
Lawyers get rich from the blood money they get and thats win or lose. There is an easier,quicker and legal way to get the message out. P.S. it doesn,t cost a dime. Been there done all that. SHOULDER AND SPINE EXPERIMENT
May 21, 2008
When you get injured in Saskatchewan and have your injury claim handled by WCB get ready for your injury to be minimized and marginalized. Unless you have a bone sticking out of your body which clearly shows the need for emergency intervention, you will not get any treatment other than physiotherapy. The assessment teams that WCB hires are very good at stating you just need physiotherapy. They are paid huge sums of money to overlook medical conditions that could have very serious consequences and could cause death. My experience as well as others is that when placed in these PUPPY-MILL physiotherapy programs, any complaints are not investigated and you will suffer needlessly. You will be treated like a malingering faker and returned to work without proper diagnose of your injury or treatment for your injury. Due to WCB denial of physician's recommendations I have suffered further injury and am being forced once again into a physiotherapy program that will injure me further. This is a ridiculous way to treat an injured worker. I have spoken with many injured and disabled workers in Saskatchewan and it is clearly evident that WCB does not follow their own Statutes and Acts that they promote on their website. Saskatchewan WCB will not follow the Charter of Rights and Freedoms that protects all injured workers in Canada. So count me in on the class action lawsuit, it's time that WCB has to answer for their abuse of injured and disabled workers.
http://iwocac.ning.com/profile/injuredandabusedbysaskwcb
May 20, 2008
************BEWARE SASKATCHEWAN INJURED WORKERS:***********
Have you been injured in Saskatchewan, and not received proper medical treatment for your work injury; Was it because your claim file is filled with convoluted reports from your WCB case manager, medical advisors, assessment teams, specialists, physiotherapists. These individuals have manipulated the system and marginalized the medical evidence and severity of your work injury, to deny treatment that you need, for your work injury.
This has happened to many injured Saskatchewan Workers, our previous governments NDP/ Calvert has turned Blind/Eye, as has the newly elected Sask Party of Premier Wall and cohorts. Therefore injured workers in Saskatchewan have been subjected to collusion, and violation of their Charter of Rights and Freedoms.
FOR: Injured workers in Saskatchewan who have had their rights attacked by Sask WCB and have been subjected to Charter Violation as Sask WCB has failed to administer your claim properly we are now within a month away from filing Class Action Lawsuit. If you are suffering from chronic pain from work injury, and have not had your claim validated by Sask WCB you may wish to join in this Class Action. For further information, or to be included in this class action lawsuit: Reply to wcbclassaction@fastmail.fm
All info will be kept with strictest confidentiality.
All info will be kept with strictest confidentiality.
May 20, 2008
For those in sask looking for lawyers to go up against wcb. I dont know of any in saskatoon. However I have heard of one in regina Im not sure of the name but it is on the corner of Brock and Taylor. Hope it helps. SHOULDER AND SPINE EXPERIMENT
May 15, 2008
What a joke, their allegience is still to the bar, not you.
I invite one Lawyer to come on this forum and tell it any different. Under their full commercial liability.
marks6365
I invite one Lawyer to come on this forum and tell it any different. Under their full commercial liability.
marks6365
May 14, 2008
Well if I must go to court, I want to be prepared with all information that is available, this means the best of the best, from where-ever, and who-ever! Even if it means bringing in a Trial Lawyer from another country such as USA. Another website that injured workers should know about, as they deserve the best representation that is available to help them with their injury claims,
http://www.wilg.org/about/membership.asp
May 14, 2008
It happened in USA and is now happening in Canada, does this sound familiar;
http://www.causeylaw.com/home.php?content=pub6
May 14, 2008
An injured worker goes in for a shoulder operation 98 97 96... What happened? Who did this? Who murdered you? Its St Peter asking all these questions. The bewildered victim answers I dont know, they were wearing masks. Thats the state of sask wcb medical care and corruption. SHOULDER AND SPINE EXPERIMENT
May 13, 2008
Hi.
I was reading tonight and found this info on what is private information and who is allowed to have it.
http://www.accessandprivacy.gov.on.ca/english/pir/prov/i93-095p.html
Also this info on how appeal decisions should be handled ...If you read carefully you can see that even though you are told WCAT decisions are final,it seems that once the adjudicator of your claim can basicly do as they please.They can search for a reason not to pay you. I guess that is not news to anyone though is it.?
http://www.worksafebc.ca/regulation_and_policy/practice_directives/compensation_practices/best_practice_information_sheets/assets/pdf/Implementation_Appellate_Decisions.pdf
Harry
I was reading tonight and found this info on what is private information and who is allowed to have it.
http://www.accessandprivacy.gov.on.ca/english/pir/prov/i93-095p.html
Also this info on how appeal decisions should be handled ...If you read carefully you can see that even though you are told WCAT decisions are final,it seems that once the adjudicator of your claim can basicly do as they please.They can search for a reason not to pay you. I guess that is not news to anyone though is it.?
http://www.worksafebc.ca/regulation_and_policy/practice_directives/compensation_practices/best_practice_information_sheets/assets/pdf/Implementation_Appellate_Decisions.pdf
Harry
May 13, 2008
Sask. Workers Con-pensation Board has resorted to spewing lies, to protect people from hearing the TRUTH.. Now they have gone so low as to say that an injured worker is a safety threat. What a bunch of malarkey! The gentleman that was refused admittance to the meeting, was due to the WCB hierarchy. (Professional Con Artists) WCB creates permanent injuries by sending workers back to work against Physicians wishes, WCB didn't want anyone to know how they really operate, (above the law with no concern to injured workers or the general public.) How they are allowed to pull the wool over everyone's eyes should concern everybody that is at risk, that's you! Here's the WCB back to work plan!!!!
Take a morphine pill and just go drive your semi truck on the highway Mr. Truck Driver don't worry about the side effects, and if you do kill some other unlucky soul, (family) well that's okay, Sask, Government Insurance will cover them, this will save us a huge amount of money,,,Here's are Con Artist Plan, We'll arrange an appointment with a Puppy-Mill Assessment Team, (unless you have a bone sticking out of your body) they be so scared shit of loosing their GRAVY TRAIN, they'll just state you need physiotherapy, then kick your ass back to work, doesn't matter what your physician says, we'll squash him like a bug. Just like we squash all injured workers.. When does OHS get involved? They don;t because we'll squash them like a bug also.. Every Government Agency is a WCB sympathizer, that's right folks, with 130 million surplus we need more money. Here's what you can expect when you get injured in Saskcanuckastan http://www.ciws.ca/articles_saskatchewan_wcb_back_injury_injuries.htm
http://iwocac.ning.com/profile/injuredandabusedbysaskwcb
http://iwocac.ning.com/profile/injuredandabusedbysaskwcb
May 12, 2008
Recovering in Ontario;
Here is the Operational Policy Document regarding final reviews:
http://www.wsib.on.ca/wsib/wopm.nsf/Public/180306
It is my understanding that while you must continue to report material changes, your benefits are now written in stone. Check with the OWA to be sure, as I am neither a lawyer nor a paralegal, and my opinion is based on my own experiences and observations.
Congratulations on your final review and successful search for a top-up job,
Dave
Here is the Operational Policy Document regarding final reviews:
http://www.wsib.on.ca/wsib/wopm.nsf/Public/180306
It is my understanding that while you must continue to report material changes, your benefits are now written in stone. Check with the OWA to be sure, as I am neither a lawyer nor a paralegal, and my opinion is based on my own experiences and observations.
Congratulations on your final review and successful search for a top-up job,
Dave
May 12, 2008
Saskatchewan Workers Con-pensation, Ya that's right, their a bunch of liars and con artists. Check out this story, how can these crooks get away with their lack of treatment for an injured worker, it's just unreal that a test hasn't been ordered..this clearly shows how WCB buys medical opinions from puppy-mill doctors who live off the suffering of injured workers, they should have their licenses suspended from practice as they obviously are just writing false reports for WCB so they can get rich by NOT helping an injured worker, unreal, paste this in your google browser (the pictures are shocking) why no tests were ordered clearly shows how the assessment team diagnose of just more physiotherapy needed is literally paid for loc/stock/barrel..........by the SASK WORKERS CON-PENSATION BOARD ,these asseholes should be in jail .... http://iwocac.ning.com/profile/injuredandabusedbysaskwcb .....
May 12, 2008
Here are a couple of information sites that may help to guide you pr inform you. I sure hope it helps.
Harry
http://www.lslap.bc.ca/UserFiles/File/pdfs/06/7_WorkersCompensation.pdf
http://www.wsib.on.ca/wsib/wsibsite.nsf/LookupFiles/AdjAdviceWeigh_Medical_Evidence/$File/WOME.pdf
http://www.wsib.on.ca/wsib/wsibsite.nsf/LookupFiles/AdjAdviceWeigh_Medical_Evidence/$File/WOME.pdf
May 12, 2008
It would be wonderfull if we could take what we know to be wrongfull actions to court and get justice.In reality all you will get when you go to court is law.That is why it is so difficult for us to maneuver through this system,it is not what is right and what is wrong that is judged .
Harry
May 12, 2008
Hi all. I was injured at work in 2002. Ruptured two disks in my lower back. Went through physio, LMR, etc etc....for the last 6 years. I finally found a job working for a friend of mine in a job that he tailored to suit my needs. I have been working at this job for 18 months now and it is going ok. The money isn't good, but that is offset by my LOE benefits. Today I got my letter from WSIB stating that I am now locked in at my current LOE rate until age of 65. My question is this: What happens if I get a raise? What if I buy the company I work for? Will my LOE payment be adjusted?
The wording of the letter is very vague to say the least. Thanks for any replies.
name : recovering in Ontario
The wording of the letter is very vague to say the least. Thanks for any replies.
name : recovering in Ontario
May 08, 2008
I have as everyone does when the year end comes around and they tell you the percentage for cost of living there is a message to report material changes to your adj. Well I thought that this was refering to any monies you recived from any other income source. Well I found out that being given the disability certificate from revenue Cananda is a material change. Well I have been told that this could be a reason to look at my pension again even though I was told it would be until I was 65. Anyone have any info about this.
name : Type your name here (optional).dazed and confused
May 08, 2008
Mark I,m sorry but I,m not following you. You said put a lien on your decision makers of your case. I haven,t been reading the site lately, because my husband is still waiting to hear from the final tribunal about the decision. Which when my husband contacted them after 2months final got someone that couldn,t even speak English. As I said back in February about my husbands case. If your saying go after your adjudicator they are well protected because there government workers. And also my husband tried to sue the doctor that fricked up his hand, and comp took that away from him and said he could not sue the doctor cause comp owned my husband because he was collecting comp. Quote on Quote exact words the head lawyer from comp told my husband. And she was a BITCH.Worst of worst piece of garbage on the face of this earth.Signed not afraid to sign my name Josee.Cause I,m not on comp just telling the story of my husbands injury
May 08, 2008
I don't care what court it is in because I am going to raise so much NOISE that it will be heard from coast to coast. I'm tired of being their victim. It is plainly clear to me that not only have they crossed the line in my case, they have crossed the line in a lot of other decent hard working peoples cases. Like I stated previously that"Time has come to end this retarded system of denial" TREAT HUMAN BEINGS RIGHT OR PAY THE PRICE" NO MEANS NO - and when everybody spends their waking minute wondering if and when they will be forced into accountability their asses will be in hot water, they'll soon sing a differient tune. Ya they won't look to pretty with pictures and stories posted about them..Think it can't happen! well think again W/CAT/WSIB/WCB, because there is freedom of the press and if convicted, there goes your pension.
May 07, 2008
Forget about Lawsuits, forget about getting a Lawyer, because their allegience is NOT to you.
Start learning how to set yourself up to put a commercial lien on all of the decision makers of your case, namely the lawyers, but the others will not appreciate the lien either.
Notify the banks of these liens and bring their lives to a complete halt, like they have done to ours. They will not be able to do anything because their credit will be sxxt. Then once your lien becomes an Account Receivable (120 days) you can go liquidate them by hiring the local sheriffs office. If they don't have the cash, you can start taking their personal property. And you don't need a lawyer to do that. The only way to get a lien removed, is in a commonlaw court with a jury. Unless of course they pay up.
That is your ONLY answer to all of this BS.
Has anybody read or watched or heard the knowledge that I have posted below.
marks6365
Start learning how to set yourself up to put a commercial lien on all of the decision makers of your case, namely the lawyers, but the others will not appreciate the lien either.
Notify the banks of these liens and bring their lives to a complete halt, like they have done to ours. They will not be able to do anything because their credit will be sxxt. Then once your lien becomes an Account Receivable (120 days) you can go liquidate them by hiring the local sheriffs office. If they don't have the cash, you can start taking their personal property. And you don't need a lawyer to do that. The only way to get a lien removed, is in a commonlaw court with a jury. Unless of course they pay up.
That is your ONLY answer to all of this BS.
Has anybody read or watched or heard the knowledge that I have posted below.
marks6365
May 07, 2008
Thanks Captain Coriolis for posting that information. Now I understand why I am cut off even though I physically can't work.
My NEL is in the low 20's. No where near 60. I would love to know what idiots made the rules for us IWs regarding RTW, LOE, NEL etc and who these WCB/WSIB "doctors" are that decide our fate. What a sad world we live in.
I think we should all contact W5 and Marketplace asking them to do a show about WCB/WSIB and the treatment us IW's get. They might do it if they get enough people writing them about it.
Here is W5's e-mail address: w-five@ctv.ca
and Marketplace's e-mail address: marketplace@cbc.ca
Please write them and maybe they can help spread the word so our society knows what's happening to us. Thanks! name : Jumping Hoops
My NEL is in the low 20's. No where near 60. I would love to know what idiots made the rules for us IWs regarding RTW, LOE, NEL etc and who these WCB/WSIB "doctors" are that decide our fate. What a sad world we live in.
I think we should all contact W5 and Marketplace asking them to do a show about WCB/WSIB and the treatment us IW's get. They might do it if they get enough people writing them about it.
Here is W5's e-mail address: w-five@ctv.ca
and Marketplace's e-mail address: marketplace@cbc.ca
Please write them and maybe they can help spread the word so our society knows what's happening to us. Thanks! name : Jumping Hoops
May 07, 2008
To Shoulder and Spine Experiment : Have you received a pension as you obviously are suffering permanent impairment? Are you Not? WCB keeps two files on every injured worker, as you say you have received both files, the other one you have received is obviously the one with their lawyers advice, this must have been released in error or by someone at WCB who is sickened by their assault on injured workers, have you found any lawyers gobble"D"guke, (lawyer recommendations) for the administration of your claim? And the other one (file) is your claim file, were WCB SASK is famous for their convoluting of the medical evidence to escape responsibility for any wage loss or medical treatment that is supposed to be expedited per the Historic Agreement which the Meredith Principle was founded on. I look forward to hearing from you as my injury claim has proceeded eerily like yours.
name : Another shoulder and spine experiment in Saskatchewan
name : Another shoulder and spine experiment in Saskatchewan
May 07, 2008
I am filing a lawsuit immediately without further delay; I have been thrust through physiotherapy and pushed back to work still injured 3 times. This has resulted in furthering of my injuries and new injury that has been denied treatment from Saskatchewan WCB. I have received no treatment for this new injury and am being placed in physiotherapy and expected to do exercises that will cause further injury/pain.
I have appealed this new injury claim to the Saskatchewan WCB 2nd level (final level) and have lost the appeal; at this time my only avenue for help is through Court of Queens Bench. This is were I will now be going with a lawsuit.
I have diagnostic tests that prove the injury and the need for treatment however my case manager at WCB has threatened me that if I do not go to physiotherapy and give full effort my benefits of medical and wage replacement will be discontinued. I am suffering incredible harassment that is unwarranted.
Saskatchewan WCB has literally prevented any recovery from my work injury by not following my Physician's instructions or requests, my case manager at WCB keeps saying to me that WCB does not direct medical treatment, this is a blatant lie, they have refused to follow my physicians recommendations on several occasions and this has caused further injury that has been DENIED.
There has been no due diligence on the part of many involved in my injury claim, but the worst is what WCB has done to me.
They hide behind Statutes and Acts that they think will protect them from lawsuit, this they have done to many other injured workers, I will not let them get away with their malicious and repetitive assaults against my health.
It truly boggles the mind to how far this collusion goes, Premier Wall, Labour Minister, and Justice Minister. Who all say they can't be involved as WCB is set up at arms length. Obviously when WCB is given free range to do as they please and answer to no one, they think that they can't be held accountable to anyone.
I will be filing my lawsuit ASAP in Court of Queens Bench. Enough is enough; I will not let WCB destroy me further by subjecting me to further injury, God knows they have already caused me further injury and are blatantly guilty of many TORT LAWS that they have BROKEN.
It is just plain ridiculous what the injured worker has to go through in this province of Saskatchewan to get Health Care.
May 07, 2008
Hello
Please excuse the spelling mistakes.Sometimes my fingers and my eyes don't work together. Harry
Please excuse the spelling mistakes.Sometimes my fingers and my eyes don't work together. Harry
May 06, 2008
WSIB uses a number of terms to describe and/or assess different aspects of an injured workers' condition. The percentage of LOE benefits does not necessarily reflect the NEL rating or for that matter the disability rating.
To further muddy the waters there is a Serious Injury Program that has certain criteria for eligibility. These criteria are outlined by the Board as: Benefits for Seriously Injured Workers
Workers are generally seriously injured/severely impaired if their degree of impairment:
. is permanent and is recognized by a 60% non-economic loss (NEL) benefit in one or more files
. is permanent and is recognized, in one or more claims, by permanent disability (PD) benefits totaling 100%; or
. is likely, in the opinion of a WSIB health care professional, to be permanent, and at the above level (60% NEL or 100% PD)
As you can see the 60% NEL or 100% PD is what is likely causing some of the confusion. There is additional information here:
http://www.wsib.on.ca/wsib/wsibsite.nsf/Public/HealthSeriousInjury
http://www.wsib.on.ca/wsib/wsibsite.nsf/Public/BenefitsSeriouslyInjured
Captain Coriolis
To further muddy the waters there is a Serious Injury Program that has certain criteria for eligibility. These criteria are outlined by the Board as: Benefits for Seriously Injured Workers
Workers are generally seriously injured/severely impaired if their degree of impairment:
. is permanent and is recognized by a 60% non-economic loss (NEL) benefit in one or more files
. is permanent and is recognized, in one or more claims, by permanent disability (PD) benefits totaling 100%; or
. is likely, in the opinion of a WSIB health care professional, to be permanent, and at the above level (60% NEL or 100% PD)
As you can see the 60% NEL or 100% PD is what is likely causing some of the confusion. There is additional information here:
http://www.wsib.on.ca/wsib/wsibsite.nsf/Public/HealthSeriousInjury
http://www.wsib.on.ca/wsib/wsibsite.nsf/Public/BenefitsSeriouslyInjured
Captain Coriolis
May 06, 2008
Hi.To Spine and Shoulder Experiment.
I have spent so many nights awake because of pain that for the longest time I felt I had lost my soul. I gave up the belief that I would ever able to have an appeal herd. I worked with workers advisers and the did help at first.
The best information I was ever given was to tape record every conversation you have with the board and I did .When they phone my home I either don't answer, then check the answering machine or voice message. Then I set my recorder record the message on the answering machine because they leave the date and time and who's calling. Then I call them back and record the conversation. Check the law where you are, where I live It is legal to record the conversation as long as one of the two party's know.
If what you say they have said to you is fact and you can prove it that alone should be enough to have someone look at your claim.
It has not been an easy fight and ruined my last twenty five years, but the very worst part is that I was never awarded any extra wage loss or pension because of my injury but because of catching them on tape or writing treating me like a dog.
I was just awarded a pension settlement because of sharing my private medical history with others. When I found out I faxed a letter to every level of WCB there is, WCAT complaints division to the college of surgeons and physicians. Anyone who I could think of.
Instantly I had a call from them, they would have a panel review it the following day, seven days later I had a hefty pension increase.
Unfortunately that has been the way it goes with them. I have just recently spoken to my adjudicator, I was to have an operation and he said " well I wish you luck and I hope this helps to relive the terrible pain you suffer"....I thought Gee after he turned down my last appeal because my assessment they did not show that I had this type of pianist's sad but true if you go through your file and find this type of proof. Then let everyone that you can know they can no longer get away with this type of treatment.
Tonight on our news there was a fellow who was helping another fellow who had a heart attack. When the ambulance came they said he should go to the emerge and get checked. He did so and then received a bill from MSP because WCB would not pay it. It did not happen in his jobs description....Well tonight they backtracked and played it .Now just think if all the injured workers went to their medical providers and told them ,hey I am an injured worker and WCB should be paying this but they dont.What do you think the Medical provider would do.
Well I will leave you with that thought for tonoght.Harry
Instantly I had a call from them, they would have a panel review it the following day, seven days later I had a hefty pension increase.
Unfortunately that has been the way it goes with them. I have just recently spoken to my adjudicator, I was to have an operation and he said " well I wish you luck and I hope this helps to relive the terrible pain you suffer"....I thought Gee after he turned down my last appeal because my assessment they did not show that I had this type of pianist's sad but true if you go through your file and find this type of proof. Then let everyone that you can know they can no longer get away with this type of treatment.
Tonight on our news there was a fellow who was helping another fellow who had a heart attack. When the ambulance came they said he should go to the emerge and get checked. He did so and then received a bill from MSP because WCB would not pay it. It did not happen in his jobs description....Well tonight they backtracked and played it .Now just think if all the injured workers went to their medical providers and told them ,hey I am an injured worker and WCB should be paying this but they dont.What do you think the Medical provider would do.
Well I will leave you with that thought for tonoght.Harry
May 06, 2008
RE: Jumpin Hoops, thanks for the kind words, very good advice for many disabled workers. Pacing myself just flares the injury so NOW WHAT! (MRI) denied: just some more physiotherapy needed? (maybe we can kill you with a heart attack) however: my injury is complicated, WCB is complicating it. If my doctor makes an appointment for me to see a neurosurgeon then that alone should show the need for medical intervention: I just don't get it anymore, here I am needing medical intervention because Workers Compensation forced me to go back to work undiagnosed against several physicians reports/wishes and I suffered further injury which they have denied and which took 2 yrs to get diagnosed by a 10 minute diagnostic test. But of course WCB convolutes the claim also so this one must go to the Supreme Court. I want to know how WCB could have bought and paid for, " Diagnose of NO PAIN " on so many occasions, I would believe that lawsuits and court appearances are the only way to get this matter cleared up once and for all. Bury It. Get on with my life - But to do that, - I need to go out of country due to WCB convoluting medical evidence. I have researched the medical evidence and have found that I know more about my injury than they do. (Or that they want to let on) YES! They hid my medical evidence and when my physician requested help for me: DENIED" No..HELP..Nadda F/A "....so here I come WCB. Lets see what really happened with my injury claim file #434-9509 Injured worker needs medical intervention by MRI :
name : Desperate for Medical Intervention:
May 05, 2008
Dazed and Confused: I think workers comp definition of 100% disabled is when our entire body is paralyzed. I also truly am unable to work and all my doctors are backing me up, but workers comp of course thinks I can work. My best advice to you is to get a lawyer specialized in workers comp cases. Workers comp always gives a lower NEL then you deserve and they almost always need to be appealed. I unfortunately can not help you with the pension, as I have had no experience with that. I wish you a lot of luck and hope someone can give you some answers.
To all IW's. My lawyer advised me to take my NEL in the lump sum (a little too late for me). Even though you can get more money if you do it monthly for the rest of your life, there are a lot of risks by doing it this way. You don't know when you'll die, there is no guarantee because workers comp can change the rule at any time etc. I made the mistake of choosing monthly, and I never even notice it. It just goes to bills. A lump sum would have bought me the bed I need, a better vehicle, could have gone to my mortgae etc. Now that I am appealing, if I win, I will once again have the option of taking the lump sum.
To Desperate. I'm gonna give you advice that you most likely won't appreciate at this time, but maybe over time you will. I have lived with pain for several years, and it's bad enough that I can not work, and may never work. When I first got injured, I was told that pain is 50% physical and 50% mental/emotional. I did not believe this at first, but after listening to my body, I have learned that it is true. When I am stressed, my pain instantly goes up. If it's sunny, and I'm feeling a little happier, my pain goes down a bit. My best advice is to listen to your body. This takes a while to learn, but try to learn the little warning signs your body gives you in order to pace yourself and in the long run you can accomplish a little more and your tolerance increases.
The biggest mistake I made was to sleep through the day. I no longer take naps (unless I absolutely have to) and I go to bed earlier and sleep much better through the night now. It takes me about 2 hours to go to sleep, but I lay in bed at 9pm, watch tv with heat on my pain, concentrate on breathing and relaxation, take most of my pills at that time, try to not think about my pain and then drift off to sleep eventually.
A doctor is most likely never going to help you manage your pain. I have been to many programs for pain, and have seen countless doctors, but none of them have helped me much. They've done lots of tests and tell me what I have, but it's always up to me to be in charge of my pain.
Don't let pain control your life. You should be the one to control your life and pain. Try to live positive and try to enjoy life. Talking to a psychologist is the most valuable tool for pain managment because they can help you work through your thoughts surrounding your pain, and help you remove stress from you life.
From what I have learned through research is that if you take meds for a long time, the body no longer makes your own endorphins to fight pain and it relies only on meds. So, what I do is try to limit my meds and sometimes wean off them to allow my body to fight the pain without meds and to keep my tolerance to meds down. Meds never really take the pain away anyways. Meds numb the pain a little, but they also have awful side affects like being tired. I try to use other ways of controlling the pain. Breathing and relaxation is the best way. Heat, tens machine, massage, and not allowing myself to think about the pain. If you catch yourself thinking about it, instantly tell yourself to think about something else.
I just thought I would share my experience of pain management. I felt really alone (and still do) when I was newly injured and I have discovered that it's totally up to me to control the pain. I have to make the best of my life because I only get one life. I tell myself daily that there is always someone out there experiencing something worse then me. Even if I am sad or angry about my pain, it's not going to take it away, but it is healthy to grieve. Just don't get stuck in a rut of anger towards your pain or towards workers comp. This is my life. This is the new me. All I can do, is make the best of it, try to be the best spouse I can for my partner and try to appreciate the smalls things in life.
Desperate, try to set a goal for yourself every day when you wake up. If you can't do that goal, then pick another goal. At the end of the day, you will feel as though you accomplished something and be proud of yourself. Try to do things that make you smile. Watch a funny movie. Go outside and listen to the birds. Read a good book. Join a support group on line. Paint a wall in your house to cheer up the room you sit/lay in even if it takes you weeks to paint it, it will feel so good when you are done. Just enjoy you, and your life that you have. You are the one that controls the pain.
I wrote this from my heart to yours, and I hope I might have helped you even if it's just a little.
Jumping Hoops
May 05, 2008
TO: IW jumping through hoops, thanks for the info, I thought leaving this province would be my best bet for HELP! I was thinking that the place to go would be False Creek in BC. or Mayo Clinic. I am on a very limited budget, but still have a little room left on my credit card, and am desperate to get the proper diagnose,HELP. Living in pain day-in and day-out is taking it's toll on my life. I would do anything to get out of pain, which is at a constant level 3-4 all the time, If I take more pain meds to try to do anything, pain escalates and I must take more meds and lay down for days. I take 4-5 hot showers daily and sleep more than usual as this helps relax the muscle spasm, I've had a series of trigger point injections some work for 2-3 weeks and bring the pain level down some while others don't give any relief. I am not going to be mentally prepared for the pain that will result from any physiotherapy program, in my condition I couldn't hold any kind of a job, as I am constantly laying down to get the pain level down, (take a pill and laydown after a hot shower sleep 1-5 hrs and awake sometimes a little better sometimes just as bad.) it literally takes very little to aggravate the injury.
name : Desperate, for Medical Intervention!
May 05, 2008
To Dazed and Confused, if you would like to contact us here at CIWA, we have contact info of a group that might be able to give you some answers.
May 05, 2008
I have a question that I have asked on other sites but no one can answer it. In ont getting some benifits call for a 60% nel or 100% pension what does this mean? Since they never pay 100 of your wages but I am recieving a pension for the full amount I was recieving before not based on my Nel wich is 36%. I can read the site and it is unclear as to what it means. I am 100 % disabled and use a wheelchair to get around but they keep saying that I am not disabled enough. I was thinking about having my Nel redone but learned that if I do they can look at my pension again and decide that I can now after 10 years can work. Any thought that anyone can give me are welcomed
name : Dazed and confused
May 05, 2008
To: what will WCB do if you move out of province and anyone who I can help out with my experiences with WCB.
Well, many things can happen. I actually asked workers comp the same question when I first got injured, and they made it sound like it is no big deal and go ahead. However, that's not true. Workers Comp will use it to their advantage. They will use anything to their advantage.
The first thing they will say (after you moved) is, if you can travel out of province, then you can work. So, you will automatically be cut off everything. Believe me on this one. One of the reasons I am cut off is because my wife and I travelled 50 minutes to visit my family. My wife drove the whole way and I was laying down with pillows and heat. We got followed by a private investigator. When WCB saw the video, they said that if I can travel that far without a break, then I should have no problem working even though I was laying down with pillows the entire way.
Another thing WCB can do is tell you no problem, you move, and the minute you arrive, they will decide that you are ready to return to work and start work hardening with a week notice. What then? If you are not able to arrive by their start date, then you are being non compliant, and you will be cut off. This then could turn into yet another problem because if you bought your house, then how can you sell it quick enough, and will the bank approve you for another mortgage if you have no salary since they just cut you off. The bank requires proof of salary before approving a mortgage.
Also, WCB will also say that moving is very physical besides the travel. In order to sell a house it requires a lot of cleaning, appointments, house hunting, packing, unpacking, cleaning again, more appointments etc. They'll definitely use that against you too even if you don't do the work. I only moved 30 minutes away and they used that against me too.
Another thing to be aware of, when you put your house up for sale, WCB/WSIB employees and your work place are able to enter your home. Sounds freaky, but my adjudicator told me that my house was really clean when it was up for sale!!!!
WCB will likely not care about any other doctor's opinion anyway. I have gone to many doctors and I am very obviously disabled from my accident and have had surgery. All my doctors have said that I can not work, and I will most likely never work. Do you know what report WCB used to say I was ready for work? A medical student's report who only met me for 5 minutes. He didn't put enough information on the report, so WCB said if he didn't mention it, it must not be that bad or exist, so they sent me to work. I had two weeks notice that I was RTW to a new career with no LMR! WTF, eh? To top it off, two weeks prior to the rtw decision, my adjudicator told me I would most likely never work. look into ways to save for a pension and then totally changed her mind right after that and sent me to work.
I have to add as well. My adjudicator lied to me as well about who wrote the report that decided I was ready to RTW. She told me it was my pain specialist who wrote it, but I did a little investigating, and it was a medical student. Tell your doctors that you DO NOT want medical students to write your reports that get sent to WCB/WSIB. I told WCB that a student wrote it and their reply was that it didn't matter because the WCB doctor, who has never seen me, was the one that decided I was ready for RTW. It's unbelievable!
Hard to believe, but it is true. I thought I would be compliant, and at least try to go back to work to show them that I was at least trying. NEVER DO THAT! I learned the hard way. Then they can say that since you decided to go back, you must have agreed with them that you could work. Plus, if it fails, then they can say that you were just over exaggerating etc, and you'll be cut off anyways.
It doesn't matter what you do or say, WCB/WSIB will cut you off no matter what. Keep all your evidence in an important place. Go with your gutt feeling and do what is best for you. If you honestly can not work, move to a location where you are comfortable living and get a lawyer who is specialized in workers comp. But beware of the consequences.
Since I am cut off, now I am stuck at the same bank and with the same mortgage. Beware of the bank too. They work with workers comp and will ask lots of questions too to see what you are up to.
IF any of you Iw's are planning on buying a house, do it before you get cut off. To give all you injured workers a little tip. Apparently at the two year point your file gets red flagged and apparently that's when they start trying to cut you off. I didn't believe it, but at almost exactly two years it happened to me too and I know some else who had the same thing happen.
I hope this information will help newly IW's. I learned the hard way. If you have any more questions, feel free to post them on this site so us experienced IW's can help and warn you of what most likely wil happen.
To any WCB/WSIB employees that may be reading this. Have a heart and try to put yourself in our shoes. We don't want to be injured, in pain every day and not able to work. I am lonely. I would love to work and actually be a part of society again. Don't judge too quickly and treat IW's as you would treat your own family if they were injured. Your decisions impact our lives forever. The more you ruin our lives, the harder it is to manage our pain. Injuries not only affect us, but it affects our families as well. Do the right thing.
Good luck to all injured workers and record EVERYTHING!
name : IW jumping hoops
name : IW jumping hoops
May 05, 2008
You are perfectly right, it is a charter violation to be "selected for special treatment" at any time,any where in this great land,...the truth is we injured are selected for abuse right from the get go,...we have been saying this for years,.."special treatment"...can mean many things...including murder,...well done !,..."special" eh???....yeah ...well.....its time for the perps to find out just how "special" we are!!,...survivors tend to be direct at all times,..so much the better,...being "nice" will get us no where,...again I was asked,..." you will be a "gentleman",will you not??"....my reply was this,..." you seriously expect me to be "gentle" with those who have conspired to have me killed?"....and the rcmp have confirmed the crimes...."gentle".....geeeeezus!,...talk about a stupid,stupid question,....I have also been asked for a solution,...and my answer is this,....dissolve ALL WCB,S...CANADA WIDE,...get rid of them altogether,...give it to the docs,they could hardly do worse than the psychopaths"......right??...I mean,it would take a huge effort to be as abusive as wcb,s are at this time,...I also said,..."every one who does bussiness in Canada,pays a premium based on the risk,and this money goes DIRECTLY TO THE MEDICAL PURSE!...DIRECTLY!,...no flakey losers dipping in for a paycheck for committing crimes"....really,..its the only sure solution to all this,...get rid of the criminals,..then change the laws to be more direct,...it aint rocket science after all,...the gang connection has proven we were right all along,...CRIMES ARE BEING COMMITED IN OUR NAMES,SERIOUS CRIMES,...MURDER,THEFT,COLLUSION,FRAUD,THREATS,HARRASSMENT.SYSTEMATIC ABUSE,..ETC ETC,,...the list is endless,...and the perps in these crimes,network for "culpable deniability"..."oh that was not me"...kind of thang,...yeah,sure,...we believe them....NOT!!!!,...nutbar psycho,s...an entire carton of nutbar supremes!,...ha ha,...yers Rob.
May 05, 2008
To Harry, you say you have been granted a number of appeals. I would like to know how. I was sent my real file and since then sask wcb has refused to talk to me. Even with an enabling certificate they refuse to even say why they wont talk to me. However they have threatened me with prison time if I make public the file they assured me doesnt exist. SHOULDER AND SPINE EXPERIMENT
April 29, 2008
HELP: Can anybody tell me what will happen if I move out of province while my claim is being administered? I feel I have no choice as I am not getting medical care for my injury. I recently was sent for WCB assessment (the information as to what is needed hasn't come back yet) But due to the assessment am in worse shape and the pain level has increased substantially.
The pain meds have again become ineffective and I need help to end this run-around from WCB. I have been to several assessments and not once has anybody asked or ordered any diagnostic tests, physiotherapy is always ordered and this causes further pain. My situation is looking very distressing; (BLEAK) I was referred to a neurosurgeon in February however since last assessment have deteriorated and think my only hope is to go out of country or province and pay for my own tests so that my injury will be fully diagnosed. Can anyone advise? PLEASE!
April 28, 2008
Hi All.
Re: Staff Lawyer
The WCB are not trying to hide the fact that they double dip so to say. For the last twenty five years I have had appeal after appeal with them. many I have won. The reality of it is while we wait for their decisions we as injured workers know that the injury does not go away,so you use what ever form of medical you are able to get. I was very lucky to have a spouse who is covered by PBC.
Through all of the appeals they covered every treatment ,test prescription portion that I was covered for.
I have asked the Board why when they have allowed my appeals and covered my wage loss why they did not reimburse PCB for coverage the paid for. They will not give me an answer they won't even acknowledge the question.
I am afraid that PBC is going to come after me when they discover this.
I made a point of writing a letter addressing this to the board and faxed it so that I would have proof with the fax confirmation also I registered it and mailed it too. At least this way I have tried to address the repayment of the cost.
I am sure there are many out there who have had to fall back on other medical coverage or go without medical care.
who else could get away with this type of action but WCB ?
Harry
Through all of the appeals they covered every treatment ,test prescription portion that I was covered for.
I have asked the Board why when they have allowed my appeals and covered my wage loss why they did not reimburse PCB for coverage the paid for. They will not give me an answer they won't even acknowledge the question.
I am afraid that PBC is going to come after me when they discover this.
I made a point of writing a letter addressing this to the board and faxed it so that I would have proof with the fax confirmation also I registered it and mailed it too. At least this way I have tried to address the repayment of the cost.
I am sure there are many out there who have had to fall back on other medical coverage or go without medical care.
who else could get away with this type of action but WCB ?
Harry
April 28, 2008
Coroners Inquest into Sudbury Miners Death.
16 recommendations from the Jury.
Personal Injury Lawyer to file civil action in week or so.
April 24, 2008
When you look at the Meredith Principals on which the Workers Compensation Law was based... where does it stipulate that within the Meredith Principals, there be two classes of injured workers? Isn't an injured worker just that, an injured worker?
This is a link to the Associations of WCB Boards in Canada site.. http://www.awcbc.org/en/historyofworkerscompensation.asp where you will find the Meredith Principals, which they use as the foundation to develop the legislation.
What is taking place in Canada right now, is we have 12 different laws/legislation and 12 different WCB Board policies all relating to a class of people, classified by law, who are deemed "INJURED WORKERS".
Now more important we have two levels or classes of injured workers as well within the Federation of Canada, one class, I will call non governmental injured workers and governmental injured workers... with two separate Acts.
Question, isn't an injured worker, an injured worker, no matter what is colour or ethnicity?
Answer: Well of course not, race or colour has no bearing on being an injured worker, then why is there two classes when it comes to " government" and non "government" injured employees?
According to my understanding of 15.1 of the Charter of Rights, the Federal and Provincial government legislation breaches the Charter.
Either the Meredith Principals are out of step with the Charter of Rights and Freedoms, or the Charter is out of step with the Meredith Principals, nevertheless 15.1 is not properly being represented when you relate it to the "legislated class of workers, identified as being injured workers", because of the provincial Act and the federal act.
I also would like to know why MLAs in Alberta have their very own Workers Compensation Legislation? http://www.gov.ns.ca/legislature/legc/statutes/blindwor.htm
All very interesting, isn't it? CIWA Note: This is a tiny part of some correspondence received here. I just wanted to share the link to a brief history of the WCB in Canada. Monika
All very interesting, isn't it? CIWA Note: This is a tiny part of some correspondence received here. I just wanted to share the link to a brief history of the WCB in Canada. Monika
April 24, 2008
Inquest into the Death of Sudbury miner.
Russell Howe Personal Injury Lawyer (Boland Howe: Aurora Ontario) Legal Counsel for the deceased injured workers family is just kicking ass at the Coroners Inquest.
See the Sudbury Star starting April 21 and continuing. Contact Denis St. Pierre at the Sudbury Star for further information.
dstpierre@thesudburystar.com
April 24, 2008
Good grief,arent you victims tired of crying and complaining. Enough already. I have told you before to fight back but it is like talking to sasks new BRICK WALL government.MAKE IT PUBLIC RADIO TALK SHOWS IS A HELL OF A START AND IT IS LEGAL.Fill the airways with this stuff and dont let up. SHOULDER AND SPINE EXPERIMENT P.S. Its a whale of a monster but it is a coward and it is shy to publicity just like the MOB
April 23, 2008
I for one,do not ever recall abrogating my rights as a CANADIAN!...ever!,..not to some freak at wcb,not to this corrupt province!...not to anyone at any time!,...THE LINE GOES,..."THE LAW IS BLIND",...meaning ...the law of the lamd applies to all without favour,...applies to all??....yeah,sure....and I have this bridge,...I am consantly appalled by the sense of privilidge I hear from wcb employeems Canada wide,..a quote again,...1989,...JH aka JJ [aka,the dead guy?]...I can do anything I want and no one will do anything"....another quote,...same creature,...1992,..."he,s only a dr and I do not have to listen to anything he says"...endquote,...yeah,..talk about privilidge,..."I can do anything I want"
.....how did this psychopathic murderer ever get to the point where this is fact for him,and for every other psycho in his "clubbe",???.....another quote,and this one I have recorded,..2003,..."I have control of your medical facts,so too bad for you...buddy,..you shoulda been more carefull"....same guy,...note how much time has passed,..he has control of my medical facts,...some incompetent boob with NO CREDENTIALS WHATSOEVER!...none....has control of my medical facts,...think about this,...how can he have control??...who in the medical world is colluding with this most serious criminal wcb employee??....well,...in my case it was my ex-G.P....note ///ex!.....between them they created the biggest case of id theft in canada,s history,...so far!....its a well known flag for psychopathology that these creatures crave power and control,....will go to exceptional lengths to get and keep control,...even kill if they can,...and yes he has tried, 5 times...so far,...2 times attempted murder by mountie[they are enraged,rightly so too!]2 times ahem...Mis-medicated...ahem...in 2 seperate hospitals,...one vehicular homicide,...,...ever doubt that your contacts at any wcb in this great land is corrupt to the extreme??....weeeeel,....LET ME RELIEVE YOU OF YOUR CONFUSION,...YOU [THE INJURED]...ARE TO HAVE ABSOLUTLY NO FAITH WHATSEVER,AT ANY TIME,WITH ANY WCB PSYCHOPATH/EMPLOYEE AT ANY TIME,ANY PLACE,FOR ANY REASON!,....until we are done rounding up the psychopaths,...learn to say no!...to these psycho,s...it will save your life,health,kids,wife,...home,drs,...etc etc,....yes its tough to stand up for your rights when being intimidated and threatened left right and center,[works doesnt it?]...but until you!..and yes we mean you!...actually do this,...well,...you will stay the prey of every psychopathic murderer in the land,...these are the "DOGS"...THAT WCB WILL THROW YOU TOO!!!,...yeah,..."le clubbe de psycho"....hey,if the name fits,...its serious criminal conspiracy/fraud on a national scale,..in a word....BIG "C" CORRUPTION!!!,
...we are working on tracing all the avenues that these nutbars use to gain access to OUR/YOUR ....CONFIDENTIAL MEDICAL INFORMATION,....Confidential is much more than just a word,...need proof ??....count the breaches of confidentiality in your case alone,...go ahead,...shock yerself,...no-one!...period!...has legal access...unless you give them permision,....the perps will assume permision....and so incriminate themselves,...send your wcb wherever you are,..a document reminding them that your informaition is confidential,and due to serious breaches of this law,...remove theor "permision...assumed or otherwise....for their access,...and more importently,...dissimination of your medical facts,especially to all and sundry,...and this will include:....every person who either does not have the right,or the appropriate permision,...to view and act on YOUR MEDICAL FACTS!,...they are yours...not "theirs'...the truth is its your right to say who gets to be your dr...no-one...and we do mean NO ONE! PERIOD!,...can assume that right and then act with the information,...its breaking one of our most important laws,..I have done this,...so can you!...yes the psycho,s will get angry,thats a flag,..anger,...so what,...keep yer cool and stick to the subject at hand,..namely,...removing the amateurs from your medical world,...prosecuting the worst...sending a message,...no secrets anymore,...we will find out about your dirty little schemes,...we WIll TELL THE WORLD!,...in seconds!!,...YOU BET!!,...and about the spam,...yes it can?? happen,..reset yer spam filters to over 50 percent,and that should clear them out,..I do not get very many,...only a few of the "nigerian" capers,..and I find them somewhat amusing,..as if...ha ha ha,...dont use direct deposit with any wcb...ever!!,..if at any time you discuss medicine on the net,...your security becomes paramount, ..report this to your isp,..and the rcmp,..mail tampering is a serious federal offence,...very serious indeed!!,...by providing the appropriate authorities with the evidence you are enabling them,...think about that for a minute,...you are giving evidence,...more evidence??...more arrests,...its an opportunity to be a small part of the big picture,...use it!!,
...and by hiding your name you are enabling the perps,...think about that,...if you really want to be part of the solution,you absolutly need to put your names up there for the world to see,...no-one will take Joe/Jane anonymous seriously,...after all you could be just another internet Lothario,...or worse one of the paid hacks that fake injries and then undertake to harrass the legitimate injured,...and you would not want that would you??...do this,...go to microsoft security/contact us...tell them this,..."please enable auto-reporting of cybercrime"....then go to hackerwatch.org[be sure you have this ip address,there are some fakers]...join up,...right now!!,....if any threats appear at any time,...forward to rcmp.grc.ca,...or better yet,..print and fax it to them,..[evidence],...the rcmp have my blessing to watch my comp at all times,...and we have busted more than a few perps,...international even....you will be somewhat surprised no doubt that this has gone international,...but think about it,..."ALL THAT CASH...BILLIONS $$$$$$....AND GET THIS,...NO-ONE IS WATCHING FOR CORRUPTION...NO ONE!!!,
...no bloody wonder the gangs are in it neck deep,...at least to many of us experienced types,...no wonder we injured get it up the gluteus maximus!,...screwing us is just the icing on the cake for these criminals,...and very serious criminals they are!!!,...yes its shocking,...get over it!...act!...talk is cheap people!,...so far we[my group] have destroyed wcb bc,and taken down many,many politico,s who were at the least accessories and at the worst accomplices to :threats,harrassment,fraud,collusion,attempted murder,etc etc,...NO SECRETS ANYMORE!,...the politico,s better pay attention...or else!...and itsa big,big "OR ELSE"!,...you bet!,...yers from the best coast [even if it is corruption capitol of Canada!] name : r.c.lawson @shaw.ca
.....how did this psychopathic murderer ever get to the point where this is fact for him,and for every other psycho in his "clubbe",???.....another quote,and this one I have recorded,..2003,..."I have control of your medical facts,so too bad for you...buddy,..you shoulda been more carefull"....same guy,...note how much time has passed,..he has control of my medical facts,...some incompetent boob with NO CREDENTIALS WHATSOEVER!...none....has control of my medical facts,...think about this,...how can he have control??...who in the medical world is colluding with this most serious criminal wcb employee??....well,...in my case it was my ex-G.P....note ///ex!.....between them they created the biggest case of id theft in canada,s history,...so far!....its a well known flag for psychopathology that these creatures crave power and control,....will go to exceptional lengths to get and keep control,...even kill if they can,...and yes he has tried, 5 times...so far,...2 times attempted murder by mountie[they are enraged,rightly so too!]2 times ahem...Mis-medicated...ahem...in 2 seperate hospitals,...one vehicular homicide,...,...ever doubt that your contacts at any wcb in this great land is corrupt to the extreme??....weeeeel,....LET ME RELIEVE YOU OF YOUR CONFUSION,...YOU [THE INJURED]...ARE TO HAVE ABSOLUTLY NO FAITH WHATSEVER,AT ANY TIME,WITH ANY WCB PSYCHOPATH/EMPLOYEE AT ANY TIME,ANY PLACE,FOR ANY REASON!,....until we are done rounding up the psychopaths,...learn to say no!...to these psycho,s...it will save your life,health,kids,wife,...home,drs,...etc etc,....yes its tough to stand up for your rights when being intimidated and threatened left right and center,[works doesnt it?]...but until you!..and yes we mean you!...actually do this,...well,...you will stay the prey of every psychopathic murderer in the land,...these are the "DOGS"...THAT WCB WILL THROW YOU TOO!!!,...yeah,..."le clubbe de psycho"....hey,if the name fits,...its serious criminal conspiracy/fraud on a national scale,..in a word....BIG "C" CORRUPTION!!!,
...we are working on tracing all the avenues that these nutbars use to gain access to OUR/YOUR ....CONFIDENTIAL MEDICAL INFORMATION,....Confidential is much more than just a word,...need proof ??....count the breaches of confidentiality in your case alone,...go ahead,...shock yerself,...no-one!...period!...has legal access...unless you give them permision,....the perps will assume permision....and so incriminate themselves,...send your wcb wherever you are,..a document reminding them that your informaition is confidential,and due to serious breaches of this law,...remove theor "permision...assumed or otherwise....for their access,...and more importently,...dissimination of your medical facts,especially to all and sundry,...and this will include:....every person who either does not have the right,or the appropriate permision,...to view and act on YOUR MEDICAL FACTS!,...they are yours...not "theirs'...the truth is its your right to say who gets to be your dr...no-one...and we do mean NO ONE! PERIOD!,...can assume that right and then act with the information,...its breaking one of our most important laws,..I have done this,...so can you!...yes the psycho,s will get angry,thats a flag,..anger,...so what,...keep yer cool and stick to the subject at hand,..namely,...removing the amateurs from your medical world,...prosecuting the worst...sending a message,...no secrets anymore,...we will find out about your dirty little schemes,...we WIll TELL THE WORLD!,...in seconds!!,...YOU BET!!,...and about the spam,...yes it can?? happen,..reset yer spam filters to over 50 percent,and that should clear them out,..I do not get very many,...only a few of the "nigerian" capers,..and I find them somewhat amusing,..as if...ha ha ha,...dont use direct deposit with any wcb...ever!!,..if at any time you discuss medicine on the net,...your security becomes paramount, ..report this to your isp,..and the rcmp,..mail tampering is a serious federal offence,...very serious indeed!!,...by providing the appropriate authorities with the evidence you are enabling them,...think about that for a minute,...you are giving evidence,...more evidence??...more arrests,...its an opportunity to be a small part of the big picture,...use it!!,
...and by hiding your name you are enabling the perps,...think about that,...if you really want to be part of the solution,you absolutly need to put your names up there for the world to see,...no-one will take Joe/Jane anonymous seriously,...after all you could be just another internet Lothario,...or worse one of the paid hacks that fake injries and then undertake to harrass the legitimate injured,...and you would not want that would you??...do this,...go to microsoft security/contact us...tell them this,..."please enable auto-reporting of cybercrime"....then go to hackerwatch.org[be sure you have this ip address,there are some fakers]...join up,...right now!!,....if any threats appear at any time,...forward to rcmp.grc.ca,...or better yet,..print and fax it to them,..[evidence],...the rcmp have my blessing to watch my comp at all times,...and we have busted more than a few perps,...international even....you will be somewhat surprised no doubt that this has gone international,...but think about it,..."ALL THAT CASH...BILLIONS $$$$$$....AND GET THIS,...NO-ONE IS WATCHING FOR CORRUPTION...NO ONE!!!,
...no bloody wonder the gangs are in it neck deep,...at least to many of us experienced types,...no wonder we injured get it up the gluteus maximus!,...screwing us is just the icing on the cake for these criminals,...and very serious criminals they are!!!,...yes its shocking,...get over it!...act!...talk is cheap people!,...so far we[my group] have destroyed wcb bc,and taken down many,many politico,s who were at the least accessories and at the worst accomplices to :threats,harrassment,fraud,collusion,attempted murder,etc etc,...NO SECRETS ANYMORE!,...the politico,s better pay attention...or else!...and itsa big,big "OR ELSE"!,...you bet!,...yers from the best coast [even if it is corruption capitol of Canada!] name : r.c.lawson @shaw.ca
April 23, 2008
Time has changed to 7:30 a.m. B.C. time. Monday/Apr.28th
"2008 Darrell Powell - Day of Mourning - Affirmative Action Special"
Reviewing the service and effect of Worker Compensation Schemes in Canada and Population Health
Dedicated to all those who have suffered and fallen due to workplace injury, disability and Worker Compensation schemes in Canada
"Wake Up With Co-Op!" with Charles Boylan, Host /Producer
A one and one half hour special show April 28th, 2008
7:30-9:00 a.m. PST // 10:30 - 12:00 EST Listen to 102.7 F.M. - CFRO -FM Vancouver BC, Can.
Live: www.coopradio.org [also BC Shaw Cable listings
Archived: www.wakeupwithcoop.org
Narrated and Co-produced by: Darrell Powell [Official Witness to the Senate Committee on Mental Health, testifying as an 'Individual- Person Disabled Due to Occupation and the WCB Process,' Darrell Powell has traveled and met extensively with leaders of NGOs in health, Mental & Physical Health providers , medical associations/ governing bodies of health, researchers and academics, representatives in both Federal and Provincial Governments, peer and advocacy groups, labour, legal community as well as individuals affected by disability and associative issues of health, acceptance and recovery. He has worked extensively during and after the Standing Senate Committee Social, Science and Technology - Mental Health hearings to raise awareness about the injustices disabled workers and their families experience and to make sure initiatives and developments in health and rights law include the disabled worker community. He is set to testify at the Senate Subcommittee on Population Health, presently underway.] ."2008 is a special year, as world leaders in health and social policy look to the causes of ill health in populations, WCBs in Canada and elsewhere are coming under scrutiny for methods that are representative of negative social structural determinants of health, creating barriers to health for the individual, increasing vulnerabilities to those disabled due to occupation. This is negatively impacting the population and it is time not only for a paradigm shift to health, disability and social policy occurs, but for the social agreement with Canadians is reviewed for the sake of Canadians. It is time for affirmative action." -Darrell Powell Moderator, Charles Boylan, Producer/Co-Host, Wake Up With Co-Op! http://www.wcbcanada.com/forums/viewforum.php?f=8
IW Family.
A one and one half hour special show April 28th, 2008
7:30-9:00 a.m. PST // 10:30 - 12:00 EST Listen to 102.7 F.M. - CFRO -FM Vancouver BC, Can.
Live: www.coopradio.org [also BC Shaw Cable listings
Archived: www.wakeupwithcoop.org
Narrated and Co-produced by: Darrell Powell [Official Witness to the Senate Committee on Mental Health, testifying as an 'Individual- Person Disabled Due to Occupation and the WCB Process,' Darrell Powell has traveled and met extensively with leaders of NGOs in health, Mental & Physical Health providers , medical associations/ governing bodies of health, researchers and academics, representatives in both Federal and Provincial Governments, peer and advocacy groups, labour, legal community as well as individuals affected by disability and associative issues of health, acceptance and recovery. He has worked extensively during and after the Standing Senate Committee Social, Science and Technology - Mental Health hearings to raise awareness about the injustices disabled workers and their families experience and to make sure initiatives and developments in health and rights law include the disabled worker community. He is set to testify at the Senate Subcommittee on Population Health, presently underway.] ."2008 is a special year, as world leaders in health and social policy look to the causes of ill health in populations, WCBs in Canada and elsewhere are coming under scrutiny for methods that are representative of negative social structural determinants of health, creating barriers to health for the individual, increasing vulnerabilities to those disabled due to occupation. This is negatively impacting the population and it is time not only for a paradigm shift to health, disability and social policy occurs, but for the social agreement with Canadians is reviewed for the sake of Canadians. It is time for affirmative action." -Darrell Powell Moderator, Charles Boylan, Producer/Co-Host, Wake Up With Co-Op! http://www.wcbcanada.com/forums/viewforum.php?f=8
IW Family.
April 23, 2008
I came across this today while reading. And I believe that the Government or individuals that work for, and within the Government are arbitrarily and have been arbitrarily depriving me of my life.
If you go through the International Covenants, that Canada is a signatory to, you will find that there are alot of issues that are not being dealt with and upheld to the standard that Canada claims to.
The plundering of the bond by PERSONS that are not beneficiaries of this bond needs to stop, and the "Real Parties in Interest" should be taken care of.
Print that in the Newspapers
The United Nations
INTERNATIONAL COVENANT ON CIVIL AND POLITICAL RIGHTS
PART III
Article 6
Every human being has the inherent right to life. This right shall be protected by law. No one shall be arbitrarily deprived of his life.
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Print that in the Newspapers
The United Nations
INTERNATIONAL COVENANT ON CIVIL AND POLITICAL RIGHTS
PART III
Article 6
Every human being has the inherent right to life. This right shall be protected by law. No one shall be arbitrarily deprived of his life.
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April 23, 2008
BARRON'S CANADIAN LAW DICTIONARY
CONVERSION -The tortious deprivation of another's property without his authorization. "An act of wilful interference, without lawful justification, with any chattel in a manner inconsistent with the right of another, whereby that other is deprived of use and possession of it,......
and there is more,
TORTIOUS - Unlawful; an adjective describing conduct that subject the acto(s) to tort liability
SECURITIES - Stock certificates, bonds or other evidence of a secured indebtedness of a right created in the holder to participate in profits or assets distribution of a profit-making enterprise ; more generally, written assurancesfor the return or payment of money ; instruments giving to their legal holders right to money or other property;.............................
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CONVERSION -The tortious deprivation of another's property without his authorization. "An act of wilful interference, without lawful justification, with any chattel in a manner inconsistent with the right of another, whereby that other is deprived of use and possession of it,......
and there is more,
TORTIOUS - Unlawful; an adjective describing conduct that subject the acto(s) to tort liability
SECURITIES - Stock certificates, bonds or other evidence of a secured indebtedness of a right created in the holder to participate in profits or assets distribution of a profit-making enterprise ; more generally, written assurancesfor the return or payment of money ; instruments giving to their legal holders right to money or other property;.............................
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April 23, 2008
Globe and Mail journalist Kate Hammer is still working on workers’ comp issues, but has now broadened her scope to include issues around experience rating, claims suppression, the foisting of comp costs onto the publicly-funded health system, etc. She would like to meet some “workers who were told not to make claims through WSIB, who pretended they were injured at home or went on sick leave rather than taking time off for an injury.” Some of the stories can be anonymous, they could be recounted by the rep, the worker could have their rep present when interviewed, etc. Also, Schedule 2 claims would be okay. It doesn’t have to be experience rated to be suppressed with the costs passed on to the worker and the public purse.
If you have a promising story, please e-mail me a short summary and your contact info, and I’ll forward it to Kate.
Thanks,
Dave Wilken - Staff Lawyer, IAVGO
If you have a promising story, please e-mail me a short summary and your contact info, and I’ll forward it to Kate.
Thanks,
Dave Wilken - Staff Lawyer, IAVGO
April 22, 2008
This is where they are doing the CONVERSION of YOUR SECURITY(bond). If they don't, keep it out in investments.
Workplace Safety and Insurance Board
Treasury Branch
200 Front Street West
Toronto ON M5V 3J1
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Workplace Safety and Insurance Board
Treasury Branch
200 Front Street West
Toronto ON M5V 3J1
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April 22, 2008
Here's a website's you might want to look at if you think you need a lawyer, ...http://www.canlii.org/
... simply go to the website, click on francias or english then click on your province, enter the words "workers compensation" and you will find cases about injured workers.. clicking your cursor on the top of the list, "FEDERAL" will take you to the Supreme Court of Canada, type in "workers compensation" and read about the Martin and Laseur CHRONIC PAIN VERDICT: Plainly stated, more WCB discrimination,:HOWEVER: they didn't get away with this one: Now here's something to think about you WCB CROOKS: either quit messing with my physicians reports and expidite some fricken tests so that I can get fixed, ASAP, I might not be able to go back to my old job, but in my condition I can't do jack shit, I KNOW that with MRI's my injury will be fully diagnosed, you can't be in this amount of pain from F/A.. Get me diagnosed, PROPERLY, get me the operation, and I'll gladly go back to work ANY JOB: I want a life TOO: Now for the last F'King time, quit writing stupid sh..t in my file, if you don't I'll drag your asses into court ASAP. Quit sending me to your puppy-mill doctors who say no reason for PAIN. YET DON'T DO ANY TESTS, I have already proved that they haven't done their job, my injury has been half-assed DIAGNOSED, NOW WERE IS THE HELP? Just get me fixed ASAP: OR you will pay forever, like it or not: The Supreme Court has Ruled on this one already: AND YES I WILL GO TO THE SUPREME COURT IF NEED BE: however any judge would be foolish to rule against the Supreme Court of Canada, so here is my conditions, like it or not: Your puppy-mill physiotherapy program has already put enough money into the pockets of these businesses who wouldn't listen to my concerns? WHY? because you bought and paid for their results "NO REASON FOR PAIN" the tests have been done, the injury is DOCUMENTED, WHY? will you not do the MRI and get me EXPIDITED into surgery so I can regain my health, and get on with my life: name : MAD AS HELL THEY WON'T DO THEIR JOB
... simply go to the website, click on francias or english then click on your province, enter the words "workers compensation" and you will find cases about injured workers.. clicking your cursor on the top of the list, "FEDERAL" will take you to the Supreme Court of Canada, type in "workers compensation" and read about the Martin and Laseur CHRONIC PAIN VERDICT: Plainly stated, more WCB discrimination,:HOWEVER: they didn't get away with this one: Now here's something to think about you WCB CROOKS: either quit messing with my physicians reports and expidite some fricken tests so that I can get fixed, ASAP, I might not be able to go back to my old job, but in my condition I can't do jack shit, I KNOW that with MRI's my injury will be fully diagnosed, you can't be in this amount of pain from F/A.. Get me diagnosed, PROPERLY, get me the operation, and I'll gladly go back to work ANY JOB: I want a life TOO: Now for the last F'King time, quit writing stupid sh..t in my file, if you don't I'll drag your asses into court ASAP. Quit sending me to your puppy-mill doctors who say no reason for PAIN. YET DON'T DO ANY TESTS, I have already proved that they haven't done their job, my injury has been half-assed DIAGNOSED, NOW WERE IS THE HELP? Just get me fixed ASAP: OR you will pay forever, like it or not: The Supreme Court has Ruled on this one already: AND YES I WILL GO TO THE SUPREME COURT IF NEED BE: however any judge would be foolish to rule against the Supreme Court of Canada, so here is my conditions, like it or not: Your puppy-mill physiotherapy program has already put enough money into the pockets of these businesses who wouldn't listen to my concerns? WHY? because you bought and paid for their results "NO REASON FOR PAIN" the tests have been done, the injury is DOCUMENTED, WHY? will you not do the MRI and get me EXPIDITED into surgery so I can regain my health, and get on with my life: name : MAD AS HELL THEY WON'T DO THEIR JOB
April 22, 2008
Governor General Site states that Canada is a de-facto state.
http://www.gg.ca/gg/rr/index_e.asp
Criminal Code section 15 is why they think they can get away with it. Obedience to de facto law 15. No person shall be convicted of an offence in respect of an act or omission in obedience to the laws for the time being made and enforced by persons in de facto possession of the sovereign power in and over the place where the act or omission occurs. R.S., c. C-34, s. 15. marks6365
Criminal Code section 15 is why they think they can get away with it. Obedience to de facto law 15. No person shall be convicted of an offence in respect of an act or omission in obedience to the laws for the time being made and enforced by persons in de facto possession of the sovereign power in and over the place where the act or omission occurs. R.S., c. C-34, s. 15. marks6365
April 21, 2008RE: Complicated INJURY" Injury's only become complicated because medcial tests-= MRI's, Cat Scan's, X-rays, don't always show the problem...and it is hard to even get an MRI, NOTE: MRI's should be administered with contrast as this clearly shows true pathology, HOWEVER it is rarely used as they know there is a good chance injury will not be properly diagnosed or the full extent of the injury will not be apparent: HENCE just 4 to 6 weeks of physio and your good as new? Here's PROOF..case file..injured worker sent for MRI shoulder, Specialist requested MRI with contrast,insurance company booked the Mri without contrast showed only possible injury,,Specialist requested another MRI with contrast, (was pissed that he didn't get the first MRI as he had wanted with contrast) next MRI with contrast showed full injury major tear in shoulder, Doctor operated, states will have to just live with it as did the best he could do under the circumstances,,,,MAJOR MAJOR, TEAR...All this took 3+ yrs.
If that is expidited medical testing, PEOPLE we are in real trouble, when having to deal with these insurance organizations....2nd Case File #2, Injured worker states suffered severe injury, in severe pain, goes to assessment, begs and pleads for MRI or any test to diagnose injury, sent for the 4 to 6 week physiotherapy program where physiotherapist has gravytrain of $$$$$$$ coming from insurance board,,,all complaints of pain to physiotherapist and physicians are discounted, worker sent back to work with BROKEN BACK..Suffers further injury due to previous injury, insurance board DENIES any HELP...worker goes to over thirty doctors till finally gets properly diagnosed,,,insurance board then states no reason for pain..I have literally investigated many injured workers files, throughout all EMPLOYER INSURANCE BOARDS as it should be called: and foundmany have broken TORT LAW after TORT LAW yet wants you to believe they cannot be taken to court, IT JUST AIN"T SO..they can be taken to court, HOWEVER finding a good lawyer is very difficult as most want nothing to do with the insurance board as they are GOVERNMENT CONNECTED..and injured workers don't have money so don't pay worth a shit...there is no way that they can get paid for all their work..That is the FACTS" When you get injured, you are at a unbelievable disadvantage...you are literally fighting the GOVERNMENT..who has the BIGGEST POCKETS and sure as hell isn't afraid of little ol' YOU.
HOWEVER: Multiple Lawsuits are needed ASAP to bring the plight of injured workers problems to the PUBLIC'S ATTENTION: Once this is done everything will be out in the OPEN: no more will COMP BULLSHIT, be in control of how they DENY injured workers claims: Things are slowly changing NOW but the big push is needed to cement changes::Do whatever you can to HELP this change occur: Look through your file: look for TORT LAWS that have been BROKEN, and file your lawsuit's NOW!..negligent duty of care/standarard of care:..BAD FAITH CLAIM PRACTICE:..negligence:..negligent and intentional infliction of emotional distress:..abuse of process:..Fraudulent Insurance claim practices:..Misfeasance:..Bias investigation of injury:..
THEIR ARE MANY MORE TORT LAWS THAT CAN COMMAND A LAWSUIT: Investigate your file look closely, if you need help this is what this website is all about: INJURED WORKERS HELPING INJURED WORKERS: Do not be afraid to ask for help, and do not let statute of limitations expire, as you will have no recourse through the justice system: DON'T LET THEM GET AWAY WITH THEIR QWACKERY ANY LONGER....and as the previous writer suggested when posting your email address get ready for spam mail by getting a GMAIL address through GOOGLE, spam mail is easily dealt with by g.mail, i get over a 100 spam messages a day but with the push of a button, their all gone, GUARD your personal address from spammers. Lawsuits will bring the comp boards malicious and nasty deeds out into the public's eyes for everyone to see just how bad things really are for disabled injured workers.
http://www.badfaithinsurance.org/definitions.html
http://www.ciws.ca/law_court_decisions_wcb.htm http://www.iijcan.net/en/info/about.html
name : time's ticken fixwcbcanada@gmail.com
http://www.ciws.ca/law_court_decisions_wcb.htm http://www.iijcan.net/en/info/about.html
name : time's ticken fixwcbcanada@gmail.com
April 21, 2008
Enjoy, and get creative
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marks6365
April 21, 2008
Doctors feel push to downplay injuries
by AMES ALEXANDER
A leading group of occupational doctors is taking the unusual step of speaking out publicly against pressure from companies to downplay workplace injuries.
To outline their concerns, the physicians have sent a letter to federal workplace safety regulators and held a conference session in New York City on Monday. They're also planning to testify before Congress.
If successful, their campaign could affect the treatment of injured workers and might help change how the government assesses workplace safety.
"Our members feel they are being methodically pressured ... to under-treat and mistreat," said Dr. Robert McLellan, president of the American College of Occupational and Environmental Medicine. "...This is a grave ethical concern for our members. It's a grave medical concern." http://www.charlotte.com/local/story/587539.html
by AMES ALEXANDER
A leading group of occupational doctors is taking the unusual step of speaking out publicly against pressure from companies to downplay workplace injuries.
To outline their concerns, the physicians have sent a letter to federal workplace safety regulators and held a conference session in New York City on Monday. They're also planning to testify before Congress.
If successful, their campaign could affect the treatment of injured workers and might help change how the government assesses workplace safety.
"Our members feel they are being methodically pressured ... to under-treat and mistreat," said Dr. Robert McLellan, president of the American College of Occupational and Environmental Medicine. "...This is a grave ethical concern for our members. It's a grave medical concern." http://www.charlotte.com/local/story/587539.html
April 21, 2008
Does anyone know how i can find a lawyer who deals with worker compensation appeals? Or can anyone recommend a lawyer in the Hamilton, Ontario area? Also does anyone know the costs associated with using a lawyer for an appeal?
name : iaminjured
name : iaminjured
April 21, 2008
HI
I had my appeal last week, 6 weeks for a decision as nothing could be decided as my employer failed to show. I know they still have the right to appeal any decison. The adjudicater for wsib told me that I have a really complicated case. I hurt my neck and right shoulder in 01 but worked till '06 when the pain got to be too much. I have 2 herniated discs in my neck and in '06 specialist said I have Cronic Pain Syndrome. Recommended I be classed as totally disabled for work. Went on Short Term Disblilty through work while awaiting ruling from wsib now on Long Term Disability and In May 07 I applied for CPP Disability because my health care worker from work's insurance company says that I may have to have a Function Ablity Test done but they don't pay for it, CPP does but surprise surprise in Jan'08 I qualify for CPP Disability without any hassle at all. Lawyer said this will work in my favour. Just wondering if anyone else has been in the same position and if it did work in favour of the injured worker.
name : hurt just want fixed.
name : hurt just want fixed.
April 21, 2008
Don't ever post your email up her, you won't believe the spam you'll get and it's all those ones where it some foreigner that has millions of dollars to share with you if you send him your banking information, lol.Don't they know that those emails can be traced back to the senders really easy :). Oh and I am also an injured worker that has been denied oh how did they put it ahh " those are non-compensatitale non-work related injuries" but they are and it's going to be proven :) trust me, wanna say I was unco-operative during my LMR even though I attended class passed some of the tests on my medication, in some serious pain, meet with the lady from Cascade Disability and told her what has been going on with me and my condition but they didn't wanna hear the truth,I can barely get around my house nevertheless work, who is going to help raise my kids when I go down AGAIN and have to be taken to the hospital WSIB nah..... so they cut my "pay" but I'm still kicking.
name : PedroPacas "fake name of course".
April 17, 2008
I've been having connection and computer problems today, therefore the reason for the late posting - if it goes through. My sincere apologies.
Never buy an HP COMPUTER !!!
Monika
April 17, 2008
Mark your calendars. April 28th, 2008 Day of Mourning. There will be a 1.5 hour Special on Co-op radio with host Boylan/Darrell Powell and Guests.
Details so far are - 7:00 a.m. B.C. time
The name of the show has not been finalized as of yet, but it will center around not only Day of Mourning but Affirmative Action. As soon as it has been named it will be posted. The guests will remain a surprise until day of and will not be posted. For more details as they emerge go to http://www.wcbcanada.com/forums/viewforum.php?f=8
and look under Media. IW Family.
and look under Media. IW Family.
April 17, 2008
You might think your just a case number to the WSIB.
But more importantly to them you are a security.
And that security is your property.
marks6365
But more importantly to them you are a security.
And that security is your property.
marks6365
April 17, 2008
This is the problem, everybody seems to think they need to wait until there appeals are done. The longer we wait to share our stories, the longer this abuse will take place.. I encourage all injured workers to read the Toronto Star,they have started the investigating, but they need more injured workers across Canada to share their workplace injury story (the employer and the WCB's across Canada have put our health and safety at risk). This is no joke, negligent employers have taken advantage of the WCB rebate system. So if you want to know why you keep losing your review and appeal. The negligent employers absolutely don't want you to win as this would effect how much rebates they will receive.. were talking millions of dollars in refunds to these negligent employers. If you the injured worker want to make a difference, I recommend contacting the Toronto Star as well as using your face book and you-tube to start circulating your stories.. this will open peoples eyes, these people who get this information are friends, families and all other injured workers who have or haven't felt the effect of this system yet!
April 16, 2008
I agree. We do need to do something about this NOW. I think the problem is that IW's are too scarred and the public doesn't believe us IW's.
I wish newly injured workers would take the advice of us IW's who have gone through all the BS and are cut off. Newly IW's need to buy recorders and record EVERYTHING so the truth can be exposed. If all newly IW's did that, it could help to change things. We need the proof before we're cut off. After we are cut off, adjudicators stop lying and really don't even talk to us anymore. I wish I had my adjudicator recorded because her lies were unbelievable when I finally figured out what she was doing.
I find that one of the biggest problems is that every day people who don't know anything about the WCB and WSIB system, think us injured workers are crazy with the stuff we say. I knew I was being followed by private investigators, but no one believed me until I got a copy of surveillance footage (which shows exactly what I say I can do and is edited like ya wouldn't believe). It just sounds too unreal to every day people. It sounds exaggerated and plan right crazy, but we are going through this and we are not lying.
We need proof. We need videos and voice recorders. We need to show all of Canada what all of us Injured workers go through. People won't believe us until they see it with their own eyes. Until they hear it with their own ears. If you have it recorded, let people hear it. Expose the truth. The more people you tell, the more people will know the truth. Spread the word.
All IW's. Please invest in voice recorders and cameras. Get as much information together as possible. We need to figure out how to expose the truth to the world. There is so much technology out there. There has got to be a way for us to do this. If anyone has any ideas of how we can do this, please share it with all of us.
After all my appeals are done (which might take years) and after I win my case, which I know I will, I plan on exposing the truth. I just can't do it YET.
All we are is a case number to WCB and WSIB. It's sad.
name : IW # ???
All we are is a case number to WCB and WSIB. It's sad.
name : IW # ???
April 16, 2008
WHEN COMPANIES GET REWARDED FOR MISTAKES !
by, JIM ROSS FOR THE TORONTO STAR
Brenda Bamford, whose brother Kim Warner died of heat stroke at a Weston Bakeries facility, says she feels her grief anew after hearing the company "could get such a payoff for my brother's death." Bonnie Heffern worked near the hospital in downtown Sudbury, so she was already in the emergency room when they brought in her husband. There had been an accident at the nickel refinery where Gordie worked. The 46-year-old shift foreman had shut off an oxygen line valve and reopened it without equalizing the pressure on both sides of the valve. Gas was moving fast through the pipes. To see these full stories, go to:
http://www.thestar.com/article/410545
BOARD SHIELDS UNSAFE JOB SITES
STAR INVESTIGATIONS
WORKPLACE VICTIMS (.PDF)
WORKING WOUNDED
The Star is investigating workplace injuries, death and illnesses in Ontario. Information in the series comes from interviews, court documents and various data sources, including Workplace Safety and Insurance Board data obtained after a lengthy freedom of information request. The Star's Andrew Bailey analyzed the data. Previous stories have highlighted loopholes that allow unsafe job sites to escape penalties, and the high rate of post-traumatic stress disorder among Toronto Transit Commission drivers. Flaw in worksite safety system allows big rebates even when a death occurs.
The reporters can be reached at (416) 869-4282 or dbruser@thestar.ca
by, JIM ROSS FOR THE TORONTO STAR
Brenda Bamford, whose brother Kim Warner died of heat stroke at a Weston Bakeries facility, says she feels her grief anew after hearing the company "could get such a payoff for my brother's death." Bonnie Heffern worked near the hospital in downtown Sudbury, so she was already in the emergency room when they brought in her husband. There had been an accident at the nickel refinery where Gordie worked. The 46-year-old shift foreman had shut off an oxygen line valve and reopened it without equalizing the pressure on both sides of the valve. Gas was moving fast through the pipes. To see these full stories, go to:
http://www.thestar.com/article/410545
BOARD SHIELDS UNSAFE JOB SITES
STAR INVESTIGATIONS
WORKPLACE VICTIMS (.PDF)
WORKING WOUNDED
The Star is investigating workplace injuries, death and illnesses in Ontario. Information in the series comes from interviews, court documents and various data sources, including Workplace Safety and Insurance Board data obtained after a lengthy freedom of information request. The Star's Andrew Bailey analyzed the data. Previous stories have highlighted loopholes that allow unsafe job sites to escape penalties, and the high rate of post-traumatic stress disorder among Toronto Transit Commission drivers. Flaw in worksite safety system allows big rebates even when a death occurs.
The reporters can be reached at (416) 869-4282 or dbruser@thestar.ca
April 16, 2008
To Injured Shoulder: I am going through the exact same thing. I have 100% evidence, but I too am cut off. I figured out that if WCB or your employer is sending you to a specialist, then it's for their benefit. If your doctor is sending you, then it's to actually help you.
I too was sent to a program that I thought would help me FINALLY. I was excited to go because they seemed so nice and helpful. Turns out they wrote a report that was full of lies. Unbelievable lies! Specialist who didn't even see me signed it. Their psychologist I saw, who I told everything too even signed the boogus report. It's unbelievable. WSIB and WCB must pay these facilities lots of money to do this.
Ask for a copy of your entire file from that "specialist". And get a lawyer. If a lawyer thinks you will win, they'll take your case. You said you have lots of evidence so they probably would. Put it all together, get a copy of your wcb file and go to a lawyer specialized in WCB.
This is a sick world we live in. It's all about money to everyone else, but we are the ones that live in pain everyday. I don't know how people do their jobs and how they can be so heartless.
To all Injured Workers. BUY A DIGITAL RECORDER!!!! Trust us IW who have gone through it. Record everything. Record all appointments and especially phone calls with WCB and WSIB. It will happen to you too. Do not trust your co-workers, your employer, WCB or any place WCB or your employer sends you to no matter how nice they are. Don't tell them anything about your personal life and keep your answers short. Also watch out for private investigators. Do not tell strangers personal information either because it could be a p.i. Your employer and WCB will do anything to get you cut off.
Remember, you are costing them money. They want to get rid of you. It's employer insurance.
A couple of years ago, I met an IW. He told me: CYA. Cover your A**! At all times. I didn't believe him at the time because WCB was so nice to me and I didn't think it could happen to me. Two years later I am cut off and close to going bankrupt. It all happens very quickly. Be careful. Keep all evidence no matter how small it may seem at the time and record record record!!!!!!!!!!
Good luck to all IW's!
name : Thank God I bought a recorder!
name : Thank God I bought a recorder!
April 16, 2008
"Nobody Is above the law" Listen-up injured workers, if you are being taken advantage of by the system, it is because the system wasn't designed for your benefit. YA sure, tell me something new. Okay how about this for starters, have you ever heard of due process. Look it up in WIKIPEDIA. Funny how in AMERICA they have backbones to stand up for their rights but here in Canada there are just a bunch of whiney spineless injured workers who cry on the internet and are afraid to ORGANIZE, to change this unjust system. WHO DO YOU THINK I'M TALKING ABOUT. YOU MY FRIEND. LOOK IN THE MIRROR, WHAT HAVE YOU DONE TO CHANGE THIS SPACE CADET ORGANIZATION WE ALL KNOW NEEDS A COMPLETE OVERHAUL...If they can build a house in seven days on TV. We sure as HELL can rip a HOUSE APART in a lot less time...MASS DEMONSTRATIONS...Together as a group. INJURED WORKERS 4 REAL CHANGE, not just LIP SERVICE,,,,,we must TAKE THIS FIGHT TO THEM..no more pussy foot'n around ...whatever it takes..GET HER DONE..so nobody else suffer's like we have..NO I'm not a meglomaniac..I"M THE REAL DEAL...I am here to tell you about injustice after injustice being flogged on the injured workers in CANADA...Ever kick somebody in the head when they were HURT laying on the ground....THAT"S HOW WE ARE BEING TREATED BY OUR GOVERNMENT IN CANADA...you don't even give a sh.. do you...your just another whiney chickensh.. who has stuck their head in the ground and left it up to someone else to do the job for you RIGHT..you just DON"T UNDERSTAND - NOTHING WILL CHANGE UNLESS you pull your head out of the sand and open your mouth and scream at the top of your lungs NO F'N WAY !! NO MORE B..S.. !! WE WANT JUSTICE !!
RIGHT F'N NOW !! NOT TOMORROW !! F'N NOW !! Make a list of every incompetent asshole that you have been mistreated by and TURF THEIR ASSES...I'm tired of seeing my friends suffer..They don't deserve the SHIT that is being dealt out to them by the CROOK, THIEVES, GANGSTERS at the so-called EMPLOYERS INSURANCE BOARD...That's right folks, the EIB, bought and paid for on the backs of the DEAD and INJURED workers...so start phoning your friends and making your lists because SHIT IS ABOUT TO HIT THE FAN.
name: REALLY BAD ATTITUDE
April 16, 2008
Workers compensation board employees help injured workers:
FAT CHANCE THIS IS THE MOST DISGUSTING STATEMENT EVER MADE:
"Just to let you know how bad things really are, my injury which I suffered at work has been made 10 Times worse by the B... who was supposed to be helping me." Every Fricken chance this gutless wonder had to do the right thing she did everything WRONG and prevented physicians from doing their jobs. If she thinks that I am HAPPY she is sadly mistaken. The bullshit that comes out of her mouth, could only be compared to, the movie the EXORCIST, When I was newly injured, and didn't know how this f'd up system really works, my fate was sealed to be DOOMED to SUFFER FURTHER SO SHE COULD LAUGH AT ME AND CAUSE ME FURTHER ANGUISH, You bunch of INSURANCE paper-pushers NOW WILL HAVE TO CONTEND WITH ME! YOUR NOT GOING TO LIKE THE TRUTH WHEN IT IS TOLD HOW YOU REALLY OPERATE! Your the worst scam artists on the face of this PLANET! If you think that I am going to lay down and let you squash me like everyone else. HEAR THIS, LOUD AND CLEAR. you might have gotten away with your HOKEY PLANS in the past. THINGS WILL BE CHANGING IN 2008 AND YOU WILL, BE MADE TO ANSWER FOR YOUR ACTIONS, you slimy, malicious, work of art with your, OH I KNOW EVERYTHING ATTITUDE, you KNOW SHIT! AND I PROMISE YOU THAT WHEN I AM FINISHED WITH YOU, you'll agree that you need a knew career so that you don't F' UP anybody ELSE.
NAME: BAD ATTITUDE
NAME: BAD ATTITUDE
April 15, 2008
Hi I am an Injured worker that had to fight for my WSIB back in June 2002 it took about two years before I won and a lot of money for a lawyer. I was put on an LMR program and was sent to school for four years. I was told to be in a program Manufacturing Engineering Technology. I did what I was told and drag my ass every day in fear of being cut-off I worked hard and passed all my courses and now I am done. I was put on a job search which was a joke for thirty days and then was cut right off after I was deemed to be able to make a certain wage. I have not been able to find work due to the fact I live in SW Ontario which Manufacturing is in the toilet and is getting really bad. I am coming up on my 72 months and they say I should be able to find work so I will not get any money. Right now I am getting about $50 every week for me and my family to live on I am not doing well and now with the stress I am even more pain due to the fact I am being screwed by WSIB.
I am lost; I don't know what to do. I have used up all my credit and am just about done financially so now I guess I go on welfare and live in poverty. I really wish I could get help does anyone know what to do if so e-mail me I would appreciate any help. I hope to get help soon I need some guidance before I snap.
Gary C garyganews@hotmail.com
I am lost; I don't know what to do. I have used up all my credit and am just about done financially so now I guess I go on welfare and live in poverty. I really wish I could get help does anyone know what to do if so e-mail me I would appreciate any help. I hope to get help soon I need some guidance before I snap.
Gary C garyganews@hotmail.com
April 15, 2008
3 hours sleep;
Have you had the sleep documented at a Sleep Clinic? Is there an independent specialist or pain clinic your doctor can send you to?
Have you had the sleep documented at a Sleep Clinic? Is there an independent specialist or pain clinic your doctor can send you to?
April 14, 2008I am driven to exhaustion. Who can function on 3 hrs. of sleep.. I went to my Doc and got sleeping pills, to try to get me back on a regular sleep cycle, However, I awake in pain from sleeping on my injured shoulder, I can't sleep on my back, due to injury. WCB has all the information proving disability. I recently was sent to a specialist by wcb, thinking I was finally going to get help, I didn't bring a witness, or tape the examination. What a BIG MISTAKE, I just read the report this specialist sent to my GP and it is full of lies. The specialist wrote in his report, so many lies it is unbelievable.....my GP looked at me funny when he showed me the report, it is written for the sole purpose of causing dissension. I truly fear losing the help of this hands-on practitioner. He's has truly helped me understand my injury and isn't afraid to try needle point injections for relief, however they are short lived some lasting three weeks, and some making no difference.
I have x-rays, radiologists, specialists, MRI'S, and ultrasound reports confirming disability going on 4 yrs. now, and WCB is still trying to DENY the injury...and has also asked for another test that is inferior in hopes that injury will not be identified, so they can say....NO REASON FOR PAIN....all this while DENYING me help for my other injuries that I suffered.....There is clear evidence of these injuries however WCB keeps going over and over the same injuries each time trying to get a different diagnose that supports termination of benefits..It's plain to see that they are acting with malicious intentions and only seek to DENY my claim for RECOVERY.
Something is truly wrong here, BAD FAITH is prevalent throughout my whole injury claim file, I have posted many times on CIWA as was always looking for info, to help me file my appeal, if it were not for the help of many of the injured workers who post here, I would not have won my appeal, yes the gates of HELL swung open in my favor this time and I did win my appeal.
THANKS TO OTHER INJURED WORKERS WHO POSTED ON CIWA AND PROVIDED THE MUCH NEEDED INFO, AS WELL AS THE WEBSITE CIWS.CA
(CANADIAN INJURED WORKERS SOCIETY)
It has finally dawned on me that it doesn't matter how much evidence of injury or medical reports or tests that you have received, you are only one step in the ladder from being cutoff benefits of medical care and wage replacement by EMPLOYER'S INSURANCE CORPORATION.
I would like to thank everyone here for making it crystal clear, what the disabled injured worker is up against when they suffer a workplace accident.
April 14, 2008
Just in WCB-BC #1
BC's IWs need to call in and tell what #1 is good at!
www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Mahoney
"He also said he is going to look at other provinces to see what works in their worker compensation systems, citing the British Columbia example that has merged the safety agency and the ministry of labour into one powerful body that creates and enforces its own regulations."
www.thestar.com/News/Ontario/article/413176
Wake up people now is the time boo these Masters of slaves when they speak from the back end. When we gather for our injured brothers and sisters boo, moan and groan fill there heads with the sound of are pain so at night it torments them as it does us. who's with me let the injured talk and the ones that speak through there back ends hear our pain.
BOO, MOAN and GROAN.
BC help Ontario understand how #1 is for an injured worker.
Why is it that storefront lerning centers are poping ever where now maybe wsib $$$ most of these lerning centers where sent by junk mail to get biz now they find a way to push crap learning to the injured same with pain centers just rember to deep breath. lol BOO, MOAN and Groan
name : Injured with out a dime
Wake up people now is the time boo these Masters of slaves when they speak from the back end. When we gather for our injured brothers and sisters boo, moan and groan fill there heads with the sound of are pain so at night it torments them as it does us. who's with me let the injured talk and the ones that speak through there back ends hear our pain.
BOO, MOAN and GROAN.
BC help Ontario understand how #1 is for an injured worker.
Why is it that storefront lerning centers are poping ever where now maybe wsib $$$ most of these lerning centers where sent by junk mail to get biz now they find a way to push crap learning to the injured same with pain centers just rember to deep breath. lol BOO, MOAN and Groan
name : Injured with out a dime
April 10, 2008
Landry, url doesn't work. For others try this
http://web.mac.com/denislandry/iWeb/www.ontarioworkersleague.org/Welcome.html
April 10, 2008
Re:corruption,...yes indeed,wcb,s are the worst case of corruption in Canadian history,of course!All that cash $$$$$ moving around and lo and behold,NO BODY...NO ONE AT ALL! is watching for employee corruption.Is it any wonder we injured have to battle our way through psychopath after psychopath to get anywhere at all??...well,...recent events have proven this corruption is far reaching and at times it seems that every psycho in canada has a finger in the wcb gravy pie.The amount of networking for culpable deniability is staggering!Ever wonder why "they" ahem,change "workers" as often as I change my underwear[daily],well this is why,..."oh that was not me"..I did not know"..I thought perhaps".."I was not sure"....how often do we hear this??...as things stand right now the legitimatly injured are thrown to the dogs,and then these psychopathic freaks go to town with the money intended for our care.They[wcb employee,s] actually fight amongst themselves for the richer claims,the worse the injury,the more you/we are "worth" to these creatures,and the more we are worth,the worse the abuse,hence the criminal actions and intent that escalates as the years go by until death is on the menu,although "they" would rather we stay marginalized if we get too close to the facts then yes indded,WE WILL BE KILLED FOR OUR KNOWLEDGE!,...it starts out as minor threats and then escalates to major ones,and if any of you seriously injured out there thought" this can not happen to me"...be assured...IT WILL!!!,...a while ago someone said this,"they always seem to be one step ahead of me"....yes,"they" will be!....of course!..."they"[wcb psychopath employee,s] have done this many,many times before,...its all worked out ahead of time,after all they know all about theft and murder,...done it many times before we came along,...wcb bc has admitted to murdering at the very least 18 people,they pay the fammilies a lifetime pension due to the breadwinner succumbing to the abuse,...suicide is the norm[and this I know about!]...but they would rather you stay alive so the abuse can continue,...cant steal from a dead person can ya??,....here,s a quote for ya,J.Hewitt aka J.Jewitt[supposedly dead but actually still alive]..."we have to take 2.5 to 3 million dollers out of the fund and invest it to pay your pension,you are not worth it so I have been given 500,000 dollers to screw with your life and care,and even if you do survive your very serious injuries,I will be given another 500,000 and I will hire some freak and have you killed,total cost,1 million,total savings,2 million,do the math,andgood luck...buddy... ha ha ha".endquote....ca.1986,...yes it has all happened,yes he did try to have me killed,yes it was only my awareness that enabled my survival,yes the effects have been traumatic,....what has been a surprise of sorts has been who and why has taken the money,....and also who knew and failed to act!!...as the law stands here in Canada,...if you know a serious crime is going to happen or is happening and you fail to act,YOU!...AND YES WE MEAN YOU!,immediatly become an accessory to the crime,.....500.000$$$$ is more than enough to attract the worst of the worst of the criminal world....for me the accessories include,the premier,the ag for bc,some drs,many many druggies,and get this,....some corrupt crime family back in quebec of all places,...think you are immune??....THINK AGAIN!!,...startling I know,...but hey,...facts is facts,...get used to it,...soooooo,...I have a question for Canada,my Canada!...and it is this,....WHAT EXACTLY! ARE YOU DOING ABOUT THIS??,....sticking your head in the sand is no sort of solution,...failing to act brings criminal charges,and be assured we will lay charges,...cowards run! itsa sure sign!,....the rcmp are on the case....big time!!,...and they for one do not want to hear your flakey excuses,heard em all before,...I mean,...eeeeeeuuuuuwwwwwww,....HOW UTTERLY DISGUSTING!!!,...ABUSING INJURED CANADIANS FOR GAIN!,...DO ANY OF YOU PERPS OUT THERE HAVE ANY CONCEPT AT ALL OF HOW DISGUSTING YOU ARE???...ANYONE???,....anyone willing to be a whistleblower for this??...it could save you...there is a law protecting such whistleblowers,...come clean and you will be ok,...lie and...well....just dont do it...OR ELSE!!,...sniveling cowardly disgusting in the extreme,psychopaths,...deserve to go to jail for this,...the stats say ten percent of you are normal,...the other 90 percent are accomplices,...and yes those are accurate numbers,...yeah,...cowards run alright,...yers Rob.ps...another quote,2007,..."we do not like you posting all that stuff on forums world wide"...end quote,...this from the guy who gave us the goods on the crime fammily,...and he was in Mexico,...hence the international part,...interpol has this guy,..a german in mexico,...hmmmm,...whats the motive??...hmmm???....anyone???....interpol also has his comp,...names,dates,addresses,everything,...not too smart for a psychopath,but then,...if anything they are predictable,..thanx bozo for the evidence,...ha ha,...bet yer "friends" ahem...are happy with you now??...ha ha,...we all knew there was gang activity,just needed the evidence,...now we have it all!!!,...microsoft is very interested,...using the net for the crime of the century,..you bet they are "interested"...thanx a million,...BIG BILL!,..smart guy,...can see the big picture!!....unlike so many here in bc[note no caps]/Canada....yep,..predictable does it,..every time,..ha ha,..R.
R.C.LAWSON @shaw.ca
R.C.LAWSON @shaw.ca
April 10, 2008
Healthcare got zapped they all get raises and not just a nickel or two ,, thousands extra a year . Some 25% of their original pay .>We as injured workers will never get what we deserve . Fight tilll the dying day or lie down and die !!! and they are the ones who own us and enslave us, 1 hard days work would hospitalizzze the whole lot and they fight like vultures over every penny as they sit and drink coffee the expensive kind while gleaming out their windows laughing and throwing pennies at homeless. Its a very sick world we live in and something has to be done, who is gonna do it? me?, you? friends its too late this system is so corrupt civil war is approaching,....... why do you think all these gun laws came in?WHERE ARE WE GOING TO BE LEFT? ALL BLEEPING SLAVES
April 9, 2008
Hello Injured Workers , maybe it is time we thought about setting up protests in front of the Canadian Federation of independent Small Business offices, Chamber of commerce offices , Medical Society and The Barristers Society offices.
These are the very organizations and Sociieties who own the WCB Funds, they are the very business organization who approve of the abusives practices of the verious WCB Boards. The Medical Society and the College of Physician are in a partnership with all WCB Boards across Canada, the Medical Society approved the WCB Offices to have their own Medical Board. The Barristers Society are the "governing body" over the Lawyers who serve these unethical boards, therefore they approve of the abuse.
It is time we demanded that our MP's bring our concerns to the floor of the House of Commons. And do not buy the excuse that the Federal Government cannot intervine, they can and must, the Federal Government IS A FULL PARTNER STAKEHOLDER in EVERY single WCB Board in Canada.
name : Wayne Coady wcoady@accesswave.ca
www.waynecoady.blogspot.com
name : Wayne Coady wcoady@accesswave.ca
www.waynecoady.blogspot.com
April 9, 2008
This is my website complete. There will be changes on an ongoing basis as things come up. If you have any stories of injustices by WSIB to you I would appreciate you go to the website and write your story. I want to have the board reviewed by Andre Marin the ombudsman for Ontario and he needs these stories. If at work you feel you may get reprisal for reporting unsafe activities you can write about that as well.
Write anything that concerns health and Safety. If you want Ontario Workers League to handle any unsafe condition at your workplace. email us with the problem, name of contact and or email address or phone number. We will do this for you anominiously. you need not worry about reprisal your name will never come up.
Dennis Landry
www.ontarioworkersleague.org
April 9, 2008
DENY,DENY,DENY, This Employers Insurance Corporation, AKA, (workers compensation) is the most horrific corporation on the face of this planet.. Worse than HITTLER, these baster-s have the Government Gangsters as their partners in CRIME. I pity the poor souls that suffer a disabling work injury, after everything that I have experienced it truly is a person's worst nightmare to have to try to get any HELP from these pricks. They are a bunch of THUGS.whose sole purpose in life is to DENY you help for your injury. They WILL Convolute the medical evidence so that they can further DENY you help..Here is what I have had to do...AVOID ALL PHONE CALLS...GET EVERYTHING IN WRITING...Plan on having to go to JUDICIAL REVIEW...because they are the WORST BAD FAITH INSURANCE CORP. ON THE FACE OF THIS PLANET...SELL EVERYTHING YOU OWN...GET A GOOD LAWYER..Even if they treat you respectfully at the start..it is only because they have not formulated their plan yet...AFTER a few months or weeks they will begin their attack on you, first comes the assault on your medical evidence, Their Medical Advisor will form a opinion, designed to discount the severity of your injury..Then comes the attack on your reputation, this is their way to make you out to be a LIAR..FAKER...MALINGERER .. Then comes the attack on your Physician, Letters will be drafted to these individuals seeking to get them to help DENY you TREATMENT for your work injury...ANYTHING and EVERYTHING that can be done to deny you help will be used against you..WATCH OUT for collusion between your Employer and COMPENSATION BOARD they seek to DENY you your rights..
If you are sent to a specialist for help...YOU MUST.get to a specialist that is not in collusion or you will be diagnosed...NO REASON FOR PAIN..this will result in termination of your benefits and HELP FOR YOUR INJURY..GET A COPY OF YOUR FILE IMMEDIATELY ASAP AFTER INJURY...If they state that you must appeal a decision before you can get a copy of your file, this should immediately tell you they are trying to hide something..Buy a mini-tape recorder preferably digital..tape all your conversations with everyone....Listen to Darrell Powell at Ciws.ca archived radio..Learn about your rights...before you get trampled into oblivion..Good luck and God Bless
name : BAD ATTITUDE
name : BAD ATTITUDE
April 9, 2008
There was another good article in the Toronto Saturday Star, front page, in the Working Wounded series by Moira Welsh. Experience rating is exposed for what it is. Here is the link:
http://www.thestar.com/article/410545
I sent a letter to the editor, and would encourage others to do the same. They need to know it is more than this, it encourages non-reporting and under reporting of accidents to the point where WSIB statistics tell you very little about accidents or safety.
John
I sent a letter to the editor, and would encourage others to do the same. They need to know it is more than this, it encourages non-reporting and under reporting of accidents to the point where WSIB statistics tell you very little about accidents or safety.
John
April 8, 2008
Follow up to Wayne Coady's post.
Go to the articles in the Toronto Star dated April 5 regarding the WSIB of Ontario's rebates to employers.
Also you can find the articles on the Canadian Injured Workers Society under their section News.
It's time that these Provincial Government departments and the appropriate Ministries start invoking Bill C 45 and hold the Employers liable.
Thanks.
April 8, 2008
I try to sleep but awake in pain, another pill, for another day. Stay positive and strong for my fold, but truly wonder if I'll grow old. You look at me and think that I'm a faker, my injuries can't be seen even when I'm naked.. The torment I suffer from the WCB, is driving me into a life of misery... Doc after Doc state their opinions, WCB don't listen they have their agenda's... No retraining here, just take some more pills, get your ass back to work. You see it's a new WORLD... Tylenol 3's, then,.. Oxycontin, and when that fails, here's some Morphine.Welcome to my HELL.. How long can I take all these pills, and continue to live in this world? Appeal this, Appeal that: When does it end: It's surely the truth when people say other's are worse off, but I fail to see what that has to do with me. Okay time has come to draw the line in the sand, TIME TO CALL HELLS ANGELS..and guess what,,,,your name is at the top of this list..
I hope I can make you understand. Employer's Insurance Corp, as it should be called, as the Meredith Principle is DEAD. Bullet through the HEAD. The Hearse used to haul the Historic Agreement has long ago been scrapped, and recycled into another WCB Medical Advisor's convoluted report. You want to deny,,,,,,well two can play that game...
April 8, 2008
Hello everyone. Back in Feb of this year I wrote and said my husband had a meeting with the tribunal it was the final. He appealed his case against the robbers WSIB, had his day with the tribunal it was a victory for my husband. In the beginning WSIB said he owed 39,000.00 dollars the tribunal was all in favor off my husband except for 3,800 dollars far scry of $39,000.00 thousand dollars F___Kin thieves, stealer's, liars - right now if I could say all thoughts, terrible words I would post it, if it were allowed.
Here is some advice. It's a long process but if you can appeal EVERYTHING you can. The tribunal works to your benefit we are a prime example. The gentlemen we had went, I believe, went above and beyond what he had to do when the meeting was done. We will see when we get this reply back from the tribunal. So the 3,800 hundred dollars my husband owes, we will see ther F----n ass in court! It's already with a lawyer and they also fined my husband with material change that had nothing at all to do with WSIB the tribunal said. See you in court you miserable pieces of garage that was ever created. Now you see why the crooks get rich and the poor get poorer.
My husband, I'm pretty proud of, BECAUSE he did not back down from these scumbags of the earth. And this did not cost us a penny he did the whole thing himself. Besides just giving the lawyer a fee.I hope and pray for all of you to go after them don't back down this is what comp does drags you to the ground. They're very good at that. And in ending, they have the balls to send and say how do you except to pay this when we have a lawyer, and they know this. A--HOLES In other words threating us, yah like I said see you in court.
April 7, 2008
Victor;
If you contact these people they may be able to offer some assistance:
Kitchener-Waterloo-Cambridge Injured Workers Group Inc.
Phone: 519-570-0781
Fax: 519-570-4558
If you contact these people they may be able to offer some assistance:
Kitchener-Waterloo-Cambridge Injured Workers Group Inc.
Phone: 519-570-0781
Fax: 519-570-4558
April 7, 2008
Injured workers ; Please go to my site click on the place it says click here to link; you will read a very discusting article where companies receive rebates from the death of injured workers. This story is from the Star . I have forwarded the story to MLA Graham Steel and MlA Estabrooks. I would hope that these two MLA's raise this in the legislature.
Wayne Coady
My question to Nova Scotia Workers Compensation Board CEO Nancy MacCready Williams , The Canadian Federation of Independent Small Business Vice President Leanne Hachey and the President of the Atlantic Chamber of Commerce Stephen Dempsey, are your members getting rebates when one of their employees is killed on the job, from the Workers Compensation Board?
Read More @: http://waynecoady.blogspot.com/
April 7, 2008
I had been injured at work in 2003, with 3 months of light duty (ha) BUT to be honest it was not doing my real job!
i was cleared (or so they say) that i was 100% recovered and went back to my heavy job.
I did not complain for about 2 years about my left knee bugging me as i figured due to my heavy job it was the luck of the draw to have such discomfort NOT real pain but just discomfort (something to live with) at 2005 i began to complain to my family Doctor in regards to the discomfort getting stronger all the while since the accident i kept up physiotherapy as it did seem to help with the un-easiness.
Finally in 2006 i got an M.R.I. on my left knee all the while the pain was increasing until the summer of 2007 it got to the point that i could not go to work and preform to my best ability without pain killers which in my line of work is NOT a real safe thng to do.
I finally got into to see a joint/bone specialist/surgeon after with my copy of the M.R.I. and his own x-ray they said there was nothing they could do to repair my knee it had to be replaced, so 2 weeks after due to the severity of the knee condition i was under the knife 2 weeks later NOT 6 months, I am now recovering BUT i am also very broke i have used up all om my savings(as much as anyone can muster to save in a year).
My question is or rather comment is i have seemed to fallen between the cracks with W.S.I.B. with my adjucator stating that "there is CONTINUITY in my claim"(declined now being appealed) ...because i did NOT complain all the while i guess about the pain.
Is there any one going through to this situation in Kitchener Ontario or near by that has had any success with the so called W.S.I.B that are suppose to be here for US the injured worker!
Thank you for reading my comments
My name is an alias as like many others, IF they read this they might use it against me in some fashion BUT none of it is a lie .....still!
Victor (alias)
April 3, 2008
re: are they trying to screw me?.....well,...no shit sherlock,...yes indeed "they" are giving you the goods,...rtw on drs orders[and your dr no one else]....ONLY!!!!,....take our word for it its not worth further injuries to play some foolish game with known psychopaths,...sorry for the abruptness,..but its best you get on track,,,ask for credentials,...no credentials? or the wrong ones?....NO OPINION...PERIOD!!!,...stand up for yourself or you and yours will be eaten alive and they will spit out the bones,...and they will start on your family and eat them right in front of your eyes,...yes its sick,...bet hey,....reality wins...hands down every time!!!,...wcb,s Canada wide are getting theirs right now as we speak,...dont let them use you for an excuse,...learn to say NO!!!,...yers Rob ps,...my usual reply to the perps is this:..'when we want medical advice of the readers digest variety...WE WILL ASK FOR IT!,...in the meantime,do yer job,pay yer bills...LOSERS!",...dont waste time being "nice"....be right,...nice guys get it up the yin-yang...if ya get my drift,...R.
name : r.c.lawson @shaw.ca
name : r.c.lawson @shaw.ca
April 1, 2008
999 talk to a lawyer experienced in WSIB or go to the Office of the Worker Advisor and have someone look at your file. Without seeing the file it is impossible to comment accurately on a problem, so take it somewhere where you can get a considered opinion.
Dave
Dave
March 31, 2008
I am very curious if anyone else is being screwed around like me.They cut me off WSIB nine years ago, suddenly they appear last summer talking about a labour market reentry program.Fine, I'll see if I can try it.They sent me a letter saying that they owed me from 2002 till still today for loss of income.And were going to pay me back.Ya right!So I started their labor market reentry program, and now they say that they cannot pay me from 2002 till 2005 beacuse they dont know I was on disability. Duh! You cut me off, I fought like hell to get a pension,and you wonder why.
What are they trying to do f---- up my disability income.Anyone else have this problem.Injured worker 999.
What are they trying to do f---- up my disability income.Anyone else have this problem.Injured worker 999.
March 31, 2008
For WSIB it's quite simple to find out what guidelines the Board follows, as it is laid out in their Operational Policy Manual section:
http://www.wsib.on.ca/wsib/wopm.nsf/home/opmhome
as well as in the Adjudication Support Documents section:
http://www.wsib.on.ca/wsib/wsibsite.nsf/public/AdjudicationSupportDocuments
Take a look and see how the documentation applies to your claim and craft your requests for reconsideration or appeals accordingly.
http://www.wsib.on.ca/wsib/wopm.nsf/home/opmhome
as well as in the Adjudication Support Documents section:
http://www.wsib.on.ca/wsib/wsibsite.nsf/public/AdjudicationSupportDocuments
Take a look and see how the documentation applies to your claim and craft your requests for reconsideration or appeals accordingly.
March 31, 2008
What do you do when you want to return to work, your @ MMR the employer and comp are holding you back?
signed frustrated
signed frustrated
March 31, 2008
All IW's. Check out these websites. I found WSIB/WCB handbooks on line. Ya gotta read this. My adjudicator did it step by step with my injury. I wish I read it earlier.
WCB Case management and return to work programs:
http://www.wcb.mb.ca/download/employers_return_to_work/SectionTwo.pdf Program of Care Acute Low Back Injuries:
http://www.ontla.on.ca/library/repository/mon/1000/10293361.pdf
Upper Extremeties Injuries:
http://www.wsib.on.ca/wsib/wsibsite.nsf/LookupFiles/DownloadableFileUEI_POC_Booklet/$File/UEI_POC_BOOKLET.pdf Lower Extremety Injuries:
http://www.wsib.on.ca/wsib/wsibobj.nsf/LookupFiles/POCLEI_Book/$File/LEI_POC_book.pdf Program of Care for Acute low back injuries - One year evaluation report:
http://www.wsib.on.ca/wsib/wsibsite.nsf/LookupFiles/DownloadableFileALBIEvaluationReport/$File/ALBIReport.pdf There are lots of WSIB/WCB handbooks on line. Just google "wsib employee handbooks" "wsib red yellow flags" wsib employee discharge" Lots of interesting information pops up that IW's should read and be aware of. I always felt like my adjudicator was just going by the book. Now I know why.
http://www.wcb.mb.ca/download/employers_return_to_work/SectionTwo.pdf Program of Care Acute Low Back Injuries:
http://www.ontla.on.ca/library/repository/mon/1000/10293361.pdf
Upper Extremeties Injuries:
http://www.wsib.on.ca/wsib/wsibsite.nsf/LookupFiles/DownloadableFileUEI_POC_Booklet/$File/UEI_POC_BOOKLET.pdf Lower Extremety Injuries:
http://www.wsib.on.ca/wsib/wsibobj.nsf/LookupFiles/POCLEI_Book/$File/LEI_POC_book.pdf Program of Care for Acute low back injuries - One year evaluation report:
http://www.wsib.on.ca/wsib/wsibsite.nsf/LookupFiles/DownloadableFileALBIEvaluationReport/$File/ALBIReport.pdf There are lots of WSIB/WCB handbooks on line. Just google "wsib employee handbooks" "wsib red yellow flags" wsib employee discharge" Lots of interesting information pops up that IW's should read and be aware of. I always felt like my adjudicator was just going by the book. Now I know why.
March 31, 2008
Hi,
Respect is non-existent in the WCB system. Injured workers groups and advocates are trying to put a bandaid on a gaping wound.
What every CITIZEN OF CANADA should be doing is fighting for our medical and legal rights to be restored.
All this nonsense about changing a clause or helping with appeals is bogus.
All these other organizations are part of the problem including the fair practices commission, human rights boards, etc.
How can a person get justice when his/her medical and legal rights are taken by government to ensure the company does not have to pay?
Any one with a grain of sense would NEVER IN A MILLION YEARS GIVE UP ANY RIGHTS KNOWINGLY!
WCB's and government deceive the workers of this country by telling them they give up the right to sue in exchange for compensation. THAT IS ALL THEY TELL US! Then once on comp we find out about these other rights being taken.
But what do they offer in return for this taking of medical and legal rights? NOTHING! It is the most abusive legislation in North America today.
I can completely understand and agree with exchanging a certain right for an equal benefit. I cannot understand why government finds it necessary to remove our most basic rights of being a Canadian citizen. There is no justification for this.
I know the WCB (as with other insurance companies) love this legislation. Of course they would because it holds them unaccountable in any way, legally or morally. They have free reign to abuse an injured worker as they see fit.
Another poster just wrote about a case that has so far taken eight years to resolve and it is STILL NOT RESOLVED. That is one of thousands. My own case, twenty-eight years, suffering total disability from labour work yet only receiving a small $200.00 per month pension and forced onto welfare with no chance to retrain. In other words, stealing a persons life.
Anyone in his or her right mind knows that if the injury is present then compensation is due. Medical evidence is always the key to determining the true nature and extent of a persons disability. The medical profession are well aware of these matters but for the most part will not advocate for an injured worker.
The only reason claims are not settled in a timely and efficient manner is as a direct result of WCB policies and procedures, and especially by Governments who allow this mistreatment of a person by removing medical and legal rights.
As an insurance company, they operate the same as any other insurance company (contrary to Steve Mahoney's remarks recently).
One of the principles ALL insurance companies use is the appeal process. They will purposely ignore overwhelming proof of disability and force the victim into an appeal. Their logic goes like this. "If an injured worker is really hurt then he will appeal." This decision of course being made in any case they choose. Mostly serious, long term claims, costing money.
Those insurance companies are regularly committing fraud and other crimes in order not to pay claims. They are being convicted in large numbers for their crimes. Unfortunately we have a discriminatory practice being committed against Canadian citizens because of these laws that remove our rights. So the crimes continue.
If any injured worker wants to fight, then let him fight the true perpetrators of these crimes, our own Federal and Provincial governments who permit this abuse of a person. WCB's are only doing their bidding. They are the henchmen of this corrupt government system.
Are you all so blind as to not see that and rally behind this cause? "RESTORE OUR RIGHTS!" should be the cry of all Canadian citizens, not just the injured workers. After all, you may be next.
Best Regards,
SuperNewf
c
March 31, 2008
To the person asking me who my lawyer is: I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. How about you share your story if you really are an IW.
Since I have no idea where you live, and you have no idea where I live, then there is no sense in giving you my lawyers name, is there?
Go to www.yellowpages.ca
and look for a lawyer in your area specialized in WCB.
Young IW
Since I have no idea where you live, and you have no idea where I live, then there is no sense in giving you my lawyers name, is there?
Go to www.yellowpages.ca
and look for a lawyer in your area specialized in WCB.
Young IW
March 27, 2008
re: "do they get a bonus"...oh...ha ha ha,....is a frogs ear waterproof??...are the Kennedy,s gunshy?...does a bear crap in the woods?....of course they are collecting for abusing you?...its called ..MOTIVE....its the cash $$$$$$ that drives this entirely criminal enterprise,...and a whole heck of a lot of cash$$$$,...for you newcomers here,....be sure and check out UBC DR HARE COMPENSATED PSYCHOPATHS/PSYCHO IN A SUIT,...how many have you met at wcb,s Canada wide??....stats say 90 percent,..hence..."LE CLUBBE DE PSYCHO",...I use Dr hare,s 20 pt list almost daily,...with staggering results....you who is asking,..."how can they this"...I could not"....this is ...'HOW"....They have a very serious head injury[see scientific american,archives,psychopathology]...AND THEY DO NOT KNOW IT!!!,....and thats the scary part,...no empathy!no remorse!no consequences!...no conscience whatsoever!!!,..some advice...be scared,....it will save your life!!,...well,...spring has sprung here in LOTUS LAND,...flowers are out, plum trees are bloomin, birds are singing again,...there is hope...hang in there,..we are not done Kicking gluteus maximus just yet!!,...time to don my size 9 caulk boots and do a wee bit of ass kicking/shredding,.."blatent error"...."error" my aunt fanny!!!,...I have a quaere in with the appropriate authorities,..."when does a "blatent error" become a crime???...will keep ya posted on this,...yers from the best coast,..Rob,..
name : r.c.lawson @shaw.ca
name : r.c.lawson @shaw.ca
March 27, 2008
To Young IW
I am serious , I need a lawyer can you tell who you recommend?
I am an IW also, looking for help that same as you.
I am serious , I need a lawyer can you tell who you recommend?
I am an IW also, looking for help that same as you.
March 26, 2008
Check out this website. It's about a wcb bonus system that rewards case managers/adjudicators for saving money and clearing cases by deadlines:
http://www.ciws.ca/articles_alberta_bonuses_wcb.htm
March 26, 2008
Oh yeah. I forgot something. Don't trust anyone outside your immediate family or very close friends. Don't even trust your neighbours and co-workers. It's amazing what people will do for money. Others can be just as heartless as your adjudicator.
I'm curious. How can adjudicators and private investigators sleep at night and know they are ruining so many innocent lives? I wish they could be in my shoes for just one day and feel the pain and frustration I feel. After that, there is no way they would continue their job. Does anyone know if adjudicators get paid extra to close files and cut off people? I would love to know the truth. There's gotta be something that makes them so heartless.
I too, am too scarred to sign my name.
name : Young IW
name : Young IW
March 26, 2008
very good!,..people at last seem to be getting a clearer understanding of who and what we are dealing with,...re:too scared to leave my name"....dont blame you or anyone for this, being targeted for elimination due to ones injuries can be a scary experience. my advice is this,...create a paper trail with any and all who will recieve your story,some are obligated by their prefesions,some are just people who know what honour is and means,...for the person who has been given the brush off,and had previously helpfull people turn on him/her,..yes this is what its all about,..he/she who controls the information can then control the situation,which is exactly what is happening to you,be ready for all the information you provided this person to become public knowledge,in a twisted way,and also be aware that now behind the scenes you are now one of the "CONTENTIOUS"[BC,S WORDS] cases,...
in bc they have this thing called "named requestor",...at the fipp level,at that point all your confidential info instantly comes up for grabs to anyone who can ...ahem..."deal with",...this "contentious person"[sp?]....and yes this means the criminal underworld as well as every psychopath in goverment employ,...and believe me when I say that goverment is awash in psychopathology,...at that point its time to take precautions for your survival,and more importantly the health and survival of your wife and kids,...psychopaths love to abuse children,when they can do it with impunity they will,and the attitude becomes this,..."quote"...wcb,..."if you are too stupid to look out for the psychoapths,too bad ,you "deserve" the abuse....endquote,..[j.hewitt aka j.jewitt,..wcb bc]...aka ...the dead guy,...we were told he was dead but then he appeared in the other name,..hewitt...jewitt???...brilliant no??...NOT!]...BUT very usual,..if your "dead"...then its tough to track you isnt it??...sooo,....back to named requestor,...
how do you find out if this is you?...ask yourself a few questions,..am I a wcb injury? have I requested anything document wise that could be misconstrued as contentious?Do you get this "dont know,cant help" attitude from the people who are actually paid to do a certain job?..."ombudsman"and other so called "helpers"...actually they will help only if you are not permenently injured,...if you are, then their job is to collect data on you for further prosecution,..these people invarioubly have and are the gang connections,..paid to side track you while your funds are being stripped and sent to every one who is willing to abuse you and yours,...and yes we have proof positive of this,..search...rcmp,hackers,gang,quebec,...see what comes up,...this was us by the way,...someone...ahem...had to be the "bait",...we needed hard evidence before we could act,...good lucky to all,..hope you understand that there are many of us in this war,and war it certainly is!,..and its not a game...follow the experienced peoples advice,...we have.."been there,done that,got the t-shirt"...so to speak,..
above all get rid of the illusion that any wcb employee,anywhere! in Canada[or aphghanada as a friend so rightly stated]...is there to "help" you!,...they are there for access to the biggest criminal gravy train in the world!!!,...not to help but to hinder,and to collect for hindering,..big time collect...$$$$$,...the worse the injuries??,the more its worth to screw you and yours,...sorry for this really,but hey,its best of all know who and what is going down,...get mad,be carefull,collect the evidence,hard evidence,..above all,...learn to say NO!,...its your right,and lot of brave Canadians gave their lives so you can do this,..respect that!...its important,...try this,..."the next time you are using all thats left of a nuclear submarine to scrape the hairs off your:face,pits,legs,...whatever!!!,...look in the mirror and practice saying NO!,..calmly,serene even,...but just do it!!,"....subs have excellent steel in their pressure hulls and a lot of razor blades as well,..all the best from the west...coast that is,..Rob.
name : r.c.lawson @shaw.ca
name : r.c.lawson @shaw.ca
March 26, 2008
Hello Injured Workers, Families, Friends... time and time again, reports of wrongdoing by the Employers Insurance Board surfaces here, it matters not what province the injured workers claim is made in, only how the insurance corp. has unjustly mistreated the worker. If you are reading this post, you probably are looking for a way to have your claim administered or accepted with the least amount of grief/stress/brain damage...
As we all know Employers Insurance Corp. will and do, subject Injured Workers to their brand of mistreatment which they feel works the best for them. Medical Consultants AKA. hired guns for comp boards are highly paid to arrive at conclusions that best suit their hidden agendas..(reducing the burden of commitment ) Employers Insurance Corp. has perfected their craft, after years of practice they know how to literally gun down the injured worker. Believe me, they are very, very efficient at their game, Remember this at all times, they make the rules, that you have to follow. So, from now on, make them play by their own rules.
This means, prompt medical diagnostic tests.. this may sound easy, but in truth is very hard to accomplish, IE: if two tests are available to diagnose the injury, EIC, (Employers Insurance Corp.) will offer the test that is least likely to show the injury, there is a big difference between MRI and Cat Scan, also the use of contrast to help with the diagnose is almost always avoided, (now why would that be?) Because contrast with a MRI has a big advantage in showing the true extent of damage of an injury.
Injuries that have been diagnosed by MRI and thought that physiotherapy might work, were later fully diagnosed with MRI with contrast and booked for surgery immediately due to the severity of the undiagnosed injury. I have seen physicians after physician who is terrified by the EIC, they just don't have the patience or the knowledge to fight for you. EIC, can and has, caused strife, bewilderment, and in severe cases, loss of medical practice. They are for the most part, extremely afraid to upset the Status Quo at EIC, hence all patients will suffer if they fight for one injured worker.
With all this being said, the next question that needs to be addressed is how can injured workers win their appeals, we are at a disadvantage from the very minute we are injured, if immediate diagnostic tests and the correct diagnose is not made, winning an appeal will be extremely frustrating, and recovery will be delayed. EIC, knows full well that some injuries are likely to cause long-term disability, these injured souls will have the hardest time, expense, retraining, pensions, add up to big bucks, this is costly for EIC and the fight for your rights will get extremely frustrating. Unless Armed with the knowledge of a trusted advocate, or Attorney that is competent in Workers Compensation lingo, the injured worker is left with literally no chance of winning an appeal. Occasionally the gates of Hell have swung open for an injured worker who has submitted their own appeal, However, these injured souls are either very competent in studying EIC Statutes and Acts and would win in a Court of Law if they were further denied. Most likely also seeking punitive damages for BAD FAITH on the part of EIC, for their Tort Law Crimes.
If you are an injured worker, that cannot return to your occupation due to your work injury, get ready for stress, mismanagement of your claim, and downright denial of your rights. Ciws.ca website and the archived radio program with Darrell Powell is a good place to start, 80% of what I have learned is from this website, the other 20% is from this website and listening to what other injured workers have been subjected to, I also suggest if you are appealing a decision to go to Can LII and read about other injured workers court cases and how they have won in Supreme Court, this is the highest court in Canada and Judges are bound by precedent when reaching a decision.
name :Too scared to leave my name!
March 25, 2008
SASK WCB have their own brand of "FAIR PRACTICE" soon after I got my hands on copies of my real file I was told about calverts newly implimented Fair Practice office. I contacted said office. Now how do I explain the comedy of screwups? First they agreed to look at it. Weeks went by then I recieved a call and yes they were definetely looking into irregularities in my file. Weeks went by I called them. My file was removed from the Fair Practice office and nobody could say where it went or who took it. Three weeks later I was informed that it would be returned but still no word as to why it went or where or who took it? In the end I was informed that they couldn't help. The fellow running the office explained that even though the WCB had broken the law "quite #:$#%"? badly in a couple of places" he stated, I had been run through, end of the line. I still had appeals I thought, but now that I had my file this too was denied. I tried to refer to reports in my file but apparently these had been removed from his upon return to his office. I offered to send him these copies from my WCB file. This is not allowed he tells me. We live in hell and gladly retire to hell where I will have my health back and it will be my turn.
SHOULDER AND SPINE EXPERIMENT
SHOULDER AND SPINE EXPERIMENT
March 25, 2008
To the person who is going for the FCE. Absolutely DO NOT take any medication before you go. Make yourself flared up and tired before the testing. The reason you should go flared up is because in reality if you do go back to work, you will have very bad days so get tested at your worst so they can see what you go through (make sense?) Take breaks when you need them because they won't offer them. Lay down if you need to, even if it's on the floor. Do what you need to do and listen to your body. They can not feel your pain.
Also, schedule a doctors appointment the day after your FCE or on the same day so your doctor can document your symptoms if you are flared up. Watch what you say at your FCE. Do not say anything bad about your employer or workers comp because they will tell them what you think. (I know someone who almost got fired because they told the FCE facility that their employer were a** holes) Also don't tell them too much about your personal life or your interests because that can come back to haunt you in the future.
I had a horrible experience with FCE. They had lots of test results, they said they would help me in so many wonderful ways. It sounded too good to be true because it was. They lied about everything. They roped me in for a RTW program, and then wrote false reports about me. Specialist who I never met signed the reports about me. They said I was exaggerating, aggressive, defiant, giving up, etc. (the total opposite of what I am and my other doctors back me up)
Make sure you bring a recorder with you to everything! Record the FCE! Wear a vest or jacket that you can hide it in. If WSIB/WCB or your work place fund it, then the FCE place will write in in their favour, not yours. WSIB/WCB keep those facilities in business so of course they will write what ever workers comp wants them too. KWIM?
You're at the stage where your file has been red flagged. This is where WSIB/WCB starts to turn everything around on you and will no longer be nice to you. This is when you start to jump hoops. Record everything. Record phone conversations as well because your adjudicator will start lying to you. Don't give them anything to work with. If they ask how you are, never say good. Always tell them exactly how you feel. Give them as little info as possible. I read my workers comp file, and it's unbelievable what my adjudicator wrote. You can say the most innocent thing, and they will take part of a sentence and totally turn it on you. Your adjudicator will also start pushing your buttons and will say ridiculous things to make you angry so they can say you are being non-compliant and cut you off. If they are pushing your buttons, continue to be polite and do not yell or swear. If you get upset, just tell them you are too upset to talk right now and hang up.
After my FCE, things went down hill very fast. Do not go back to work until you are ready. I went back because I thought I was at least being compliant, but trust me, that doesn't work. I tried my best, but I am still cut off everything. WSIB/WCB will cut you off at least once guaranteed, so start saving money. They have me listed as partially disabled, but I am cut off of everything except my meds because they think I can work full time even though my doctors say I can't.
A year ago I read this website and thought none of this could happen to me. My adjudicator was so nice to me and everything was going well. Now I am cut off, wrongfully fired from my job, and am appealing every decision WCB has made. I am extremely thankful that I bought a recorder. I plan on suing the facility that did my FCE and Workhardening , because I recorded everything and can prove that my report has been falsified.
You can buy a recorder for under a hundred dollars at Future Shop, and a $6 attachment for your phone. It's worth the investment! Trust me! PLEASE!
Good luck!
Young IW
Young IW
March 25, 2008
Just wondering if anyone's every lodged a complaint with the Fair Practices Commission of the Ontario WSIB? Check out their site:
http://www.fairpractices.on.ca/
Copied fromtheir site: "The Fair Practices Commission is the organizational ombudsman for the Workplace Safety and Insurance Board. The Commission provides an independent, neutral and confidential service for injured workers, employers and service providers with complaints about the service they receive at the WSIB. The Commission also tracks complaint trends, identifies systemic issues and recommends improvements to the WSIB." Copied from their site: "The Fair Practices Commission is the organizational ombudsman for the Workplace Safety and Insurance Board. The Commission provides an independent, neutral and confidential service for injured workers, employers and service providers with complaints about the service they receive at the WSIB. The Commission also tracks complaint trends, identifies systemic issues and recommends improvements to the WSIB." Monika
Copied fromtheir site: "The Fair Practices Commission is the organizational ombudsman for the Workplace Safety and Insurance Board. The Commission provides an independent, neutral and confidential service for injured workers, employers and service providers with complaints about the service they receive at the WSIB. The Commission also tracks complaint trends, identifies systemic issues and recommends improvements to the WSIB." Copied from their site: "The Fair Practices Commission is the organizational ombudsman for the Workplace Safety and Insurance Board. The Commission provides an independent, neutral and confidential service for injured workers, employers and service providers with complaints about the service they receive at the WSIB. The Commission also tracks complaint trends, identifies systemic issues and recommends improvements to the WSIB." Monika
March 25, 2008
FCE: Functional Capacity Evaluation; depending on the administrator/injuy the evaluation time will vary. FCE's are designed to determine your functional capabilities. Used for the following: there is difference of opinion between the treating practioners on the objective medical on your claim; is their is no objective medical to support your injuries/symptoms; to determine what you are capable of doing; if there are issues regarding RTW...etc.
Will most likely be the final medical opinion (in most cases).
FCE's are conducted by specialists: Kins; Docs of Sport Medicine; Occ Health Docs; etc. again depending on clinic and injury.
FCE's are usually full day tests; 8 hours in order to assess your capabilities throughout the day.
Just my opinion; why not wait to see results of recommended testing length; you have the option to appeal anything you do not agree with (i.e seek 2nd opinion)
Will most likely be the final medical opinion (in most cases).
FCE's are conducted by specialists: Kins; Docs of Sport Medicine; Occ Health Docs; etc. again depending on clinic and injury.
FCE's are usually full day tests; 8 hours in order to assess your capabilities throughout the day.
Just my opinion; why not wait to see results of recommended testing length; you have the option to appeal anything you do not agree with (i.e seek 2nd opinion)
March 20, 2008
Just wanted to say Thanks to all those people who shared their stories. Like you, I too have suffered an injury at work and the horror stories I have to tell could take forever, so I won't. Have patience, be calm, don't give up, etc. etc. are words spoken too many times to count. After suffering a complete emotional break down caused, in my opinion from the harrassament by wsib, their doctors etc, I have learnt one thing and only one thing.....WISB is an agency that has billions of surplus dollars solely because honest people like myself don't get compensated for work related injuries that can and most likely do change ones lifes. I will never be able to make plans to do something special with my kids as I don't know how I will feel/move on any given day. As to my employer, I work with special needs so you would think they would understand, LOL
We all need to fight together to make changes to this act so that no one else suffers like us. A permant back injury is only worth 12,000. what a joke!!!! Someone forgot to tell these idiots that without your back theres not much left. Try and do your job laying flat on your back, hey I guess if I was a lady of the night I could.
All the best to you all. From one who knows
March 19, 2008
i am glad to see that i am not alone in this...but wow, it breaks my heart to think of all these people suffering and not getting the support they need. i wont bore you the horrid details of my workplace injury but i am wondering if anyone out there knows about FCE evaluations. the back to work mediator told me at our last meeting that i would have a 2 day evaluation due to the nature of my injury it is the most accurate way to determine the actual impact on my body. now, my adjudicator has said that i will only have a one day evaluation (when earlier in the day the nurse case manager was discussing staying over night in the city so i would be rested for day 2) Can i pay myself for the 2nd day to ensure an accurate result? i read a bit on line today about the impact testing and its importance..
any wisdom would be greatly appreciated.
blessings to all of you who are dealing with disabilities and WSIB. may we will all be granted the gift of patience and the support we need to get through this journey. its time to make some changes...have faith, let go of anger and frustration...(thats what i am trying to do)
all the best
March 19, 2008
For those wondering why politicians wont help should look up the findings of a study done by the British Psychological Society. Leading British psychologist David Cook and graduate student Lisa Marshall conducted a three year study and found alarming similarities with politicians and psychopaths. I have the star phoenix report and would like the actual psychologists report that is if it is available to the public.Also, recent findings by curious psychologists seem to suggest that Canadian business and American businesses are recruiting psychopaths but we already know that. SHOULDER AND SPINE EXPERIMENT
March 18, 2008
Family of Deceased Injured Worker Shares Horror Story of WSIB Mistreatment
Re: Jeff Thompson - WSIB Claim XXX
On March 13/08, I had the opportunity to talk with Jeff Thompson's (deceased) family. Jeff died February 10, 2008 from what the coroner said was 1. BLEEDING ULCER - STRESS RELATED 2. moderate to high sugar 3. a slight case of influenza 4. a slight case of pneumonia. Jeff was 49 years old, single and living alone.
Jeff suffered a workplace injury in late Oct 2004. He was leaving a job after installing a satellite system. As he was getting into his van he twisted his right knee and fell off the step of the van. He was treated at University Hospital in London ON (Oct 28/04). The WSIB form seven states Jeff was employed full time, and his employer had no doubt of the facts of Jeff's workplace injury. There was no previous similar injury/disease, no one else was responsible and the injury was work related. Employers Form 7 submission Oct. 29 /04.
Too see the rest of the story, please visit: www.iwocac.ning.com
On a personal note, I too have had assigned, then had reassigned the same WSIB adjudicator as Jeff had. He has pulled the same unfair cruel tactics he seems to find works and closes, and reduces claim files for HIM. Should Jeff Thompson's family decide to seek legal recourse against the WSIB and the adjudicator from hell, I will be a witness to this exact same treatment happening to me by the same person. People like this adjudicator should not be employed by the WSIB. It goes completely against what the WSIB Chair the Hon Steven W Mahoney stated about his staff. There was no 'Dignity and Respect' shown for Jeff Thompson as there was none shown for me. When an adjudicator can cause a 'causal link' in the death of an IW all steps available and allowed by law should be taken to see that the WSIB, the adjudicator and the manager is not allowed to take another life or cause the mental/psychological terror they caused Jeff Thompson or my self.
Peter
March 17, 2008
Happy St. Paddy's Day to All: With that being said, everyone here knows or should know, when you suffer work injury, there just isn't any pot of gold at the end of the rainbow. Employer's and their provincial workers insurance corp., seem to think that when an injured worker reports injury, they really don't want medical care and just want benefits of wage replacement. With statistics reported of very low percentage of workers compensation fraudulent claims it seems that the message that we need medical diagnostic tests, EXPIDITED, to diagnose injury has again been discounted and withheld to prevent recovery. It truly boggles the mind that hundred's of thousands of dollars are spent giving physiotherapy treatments, yet expenses for diagnostic tests remain at an all-time low. My experience is that when in physiotherapy, and having problems with injury, the physiotherapist's turned their backs on my complaints, my complaints were not given credence, and I was returned to work were my injuries deteriorated and then was denied any HELP. This has led me to believe, yes there is a pot of gold at the end of the rainbow, and the rainbow ends at the workers insurance corp. building and the pot of gold can be found there, where it is used for purposes other than what it was intended for.
Thoughts of a injured, Leprechaun
Thoughts of a injured, Leprechaun
March 17, 2008
Thats right!!!...FIRE THEIR SORRY SICK EUGENIC USING ASSES!!!,.....GET RID OF THE ENTIRE CRIMINAL ELEMENT send those losers to the slammer where they belong!!!...AND START OVER FROM THE BEGINNING,...SCREEN EVERYONE!!!!...INVOLVED FOR PSYCHOPATHOLOGY...EVERYONE!!!....GET RID OF THE >>>"PSUEDO MEDICAL FAKE PROFFESIONALS"....THE GREAT UNCREDENTIALED BOOBLAND INHABITANTS,...ROB,...PS,..not bad.eh???..busted!busted!...aaaaand.....busted!!!....thats the last head for the chimaera,....legend has it the heads then consumed each other in a paroxym of rage!!,....fitting...Rob.
real rob lawson r.c.lawson@shaw.ca...
real rob lawson r.c.lawson@shaw.ca...
March 12, 2008
John, still waiting to hear from you.!!!!
Cricket' cricket' cricket'
Come now share your great WSIB workers with us so that we might get some good help.Thanks again .Harry
Cricket' cricket' cricket'
Come now share your great WSIB workers with us so that we might get some good help.Thanks again .Harry
March 11, 2008
Check out the following link. http://www.petitiononline.com/Lane/petition.html
Is there any reason why injured and disabled workers in Canada as well, could not petition the courts to overturn the historic agreement? Is there really any point in continuing to believe that the Government will change the system? My former MLA Richard Magnus had the right idea when he suggested that all of the present people involved in the system should be fired. Of course even that does not guarantee that anything would change. Gerry Miller
Is there any reason why injured and disabled workers in Canada as well, could not petition the courts to overturn the historic agreement? Is there really any point in continuing to believe that the Government will change the system? My former MLA Richard Magnus had the right idea when he suggested that all of the present people involved in the system should be fired. Of course even that does not guarantee that anything would change. Gerry Miller
March 11, 2008
Tried it all,three lawyers,one was a complete joke (missplaced my file for three months, asked me about points of law e.g. can they do that she asked me more than once} another wanted 300.00 just to tell me what he was going to charge. Another wanted thousands just to look at it. BUT THEY ALL AGREED I WAS SCREWED BY SASK WCB. I came up with a sure fire way to get at the wcb. Wont cost anything, not physically strenous and not illegal. Problem is you people cant believe something so simple could work. SHOULDER AND SPINE EXPERIMENT
March 10, 2008
For those of you lucky enough to have high speed internet connectivity, you will be able to see the videos on YouTube at the following address (which I don't and can't view), submitted by Wayne Coady from Nova Scotia.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TiPEJpnIz0
March 5, 2008
I just want to add to my last post regarding doctor appointments. Besides going in with a smile, NEVER take medication before any workers comp related appointment because it will just mask some of the pain. (I say some since we all know that pain meds never take all the pain away no matter how high the dose) Let them see all the pain you go through. Hope this advice will help some IW's.
name : Young IW disabled for life
March 5, 2008
Steve - Are you contacting lawyers who specialize in WSIB? I don't know why your Union status would have anything to do with why a lawyer wouldn't take your case. I am involved with both a lawyer and a union. My lawyer is specialized in worker comp cases and just takes 10% of what ever I get. He is also dealing with getting me a good LMR program (other wise WSIB will just give you horrible retraining). I don't live in your area so I can't help you find one unfortunately. I am surprised that no lawyer took your case since you are diagnosed with Chronic Pain Disorder (usually a struggle to get diagnosed with. I bet they didn't apply that to your NEL award)
I too had a low back injury, in my 20's and unable to work. I am cut off of course and have a low NEL which is also getting appealed. Some advice for you and anyone else. Make sure to appeal WSIB's decisions before the deadline with or without a lawyer, other wise it's too late. If you do appeal things on your own, make sure to put as much evidence together as you can. I wish you and your family much luck!
Some advice to all IW's. I have learned from experience that the more positive and happy I am at my appointments, the more serious the doctor takes me. They know all the symptoms to look for in pain regardless of your mood. Being angry will just frustrate the doctor. I can't imagine being a doctor dealing with all of us angry frustrated people in pain. If ya walk in with a smile, they tend to be more thorough and more willing to help. Doctors are only human. They too can get frustrated just like us.
Good luck to all IW's and their families! name : Young IW Disabled for Life
I too had a low back injury, in my 20's and unable to work. I am cut off of course and have a low NEL which is also getting appealed. Some advice for you and anyone else. Make sure to appeal WSIB's decisions before the deadline with or without a lawyer, other wise it's too late. If you do appeal things on your own, make sure to put as much evidence together as you can. I wish you and your family much luck!
Some advice to all IW's. I have learned from experience that the more positive and happy I am at my appointments, the more serious the doctor takes me. They know all the symptoms to look for in pain regardless of your mood. Being angry will just frustrate the doctor. I can't imagine being a doctor dealing with all of us angry frustrated people in pain. If ya walk in with a smile, they tend to be more thorough and more willing to help. Doctors are only human. They too can get frustrated just like us.
Good luck to all IW's and their families! name : Young IW Disabled for Life
March 5, 2008
Hi to all of u,
In my case i am still dealing with WSIB and getting more and more fustrated at them.In april 2005 i had a lower back injury at work.They send me to have physiotherapy and the pain was going and coming back.So i went back to work until the 25 of may 2006 when finally the pain got to me so hard that i could not take it anymore.Since that accident i've been to hospitals seen many doctors and went to rehab center.Was diagn with myofacial and after few weeks with fybromyalgia and the they told me due to all the symtomes you have we will used the term chronic pain syndrom,the chronic fatigue, two major depression and just got out of hospital 3 weeks ago for pain and for trying to take my own life so i would not need to deal with all the issues.I am so tired and out of energy that i do not know why at 31 years of age this had to happend.Now my problems seems to get worst with the wsib.They paid for the rehab center and psy that i had seen in 2007.Today they are telling me that they are only covering my lower back injury.Why do they don't cover the rest if they paid for everything even the medications.So now my questions are i am reprensented by a union but i feel that they are not giving me my help i need.I've call many Lawers in the ottawa region and they are all refusing to help me out because of my status with the union.So P.L.S. if someone knows a lawyer that could help me out that would be great.U see yes the wsib his giving me the chance to retraine in something that the third party imposed me not of my choice and yes they will give me a small amount until i am 65 but it's a joke when i was working i had benefits and was making over 2000$ monthly so their small amount and being imposed i can accept that.I have two boys one that's 7y old that have myopathie disorder and one that is 5y old and a lovely wife that's working alot more since i am sick.So yes alot of issues and that's why i am asking for help and references if someone has some to share.Sorry about my english i am french so hope you understand.
Thankx to all of u
Steve
jusced@hotmail.com
March 5, 2008
TO: (Life isn't always fair, but there is always a purpose for everything that happens.) Good Advice, I take it to heart everyday, I do try my best to hide the abuse that I have suffered from Physicians and Workers Insurance Corp. it surely isn't an easy challenge though as numerous wrongs have been perpetrated against me. I need closure; ASAP.. My story is all about workers insurance corp, DENIAL of help. This is extremely frustrating, and is like an open wound festering and demanding attention, yet is being denied intervention.
Awaking in pain on a daily basis has taken a huge toll on my psychic behavior. I have learned to control my RANTINGS (took a few 911 calls) but this has been accomplished, HOWEVER when somebody acts unreasonable and contradictory to avoid addressing the real merits of my situation. Dial 911 immediately because I really don't care anymore, and won't shut-up, BE WARNED get ready for the tongue lashing of your life. You see, I have vocal cords that can and do hit 190 decibels and the look on their faces shows their extreme displeasure.This helps me to vent my frustration and to reduce my pent-up desire to just smack them, believe me I feel they have earned it with their ignorance. (I really fantasize about just giving them just one haymaker, which would give them a well deserved attitude adjustment.) But of course would be wrong and wouldn't solve anything. Like everyone knows, two wrongs don't make a right, (but it sure feels good to unload my anger on them) I really like the saying ("sticks and stones can break the bones but words can never hurt them") but I bet it smarts and makes them uncomfortable and more than a little nervous.If this helps some poor other injured soul from having to listen to the irrational statements made by all involved.HURRAH.mission accomplished.it's downright sickening what injured workers have to put up with..I haven't seen it all.However what I have seen, is just the tip of the ice-berg. You see, after all I have been through, I have learned that Workers Insurance Corp. is definitely not acting in the interest of the injured worker but is a Quasi-Judicial system designed to avoid addressing the real merits of the case, time and time again I have seen other injured souls lives completely destroyed by these unjust corporations. Make NO mistake, they can and do make the most witless decisions and then run and hide behind their legislative acts and statutes. This serves no purpose and further delays the injured worker recovery and frequently exasperates a situation that is easy solved if properly addressed. This bureaucracy is designed to separate the fakers from the needy, but has turned into a fight for almost everyone involved. Severely Injured Workers are now bearing the brunt of a system designed to help them but which has gone awry from its intended purpose. Don't get me wrong, I know everyone is not subjected to this treatment and that some injured workers are treated very fair. However it seems that more and more disabled injured workers are having huge struggles due to the way that Workers Insurance Corp. is now dealing with claims, and this should concern everyone, as just like myself I never thought I would need their help, nor did I have any understanding of what awaited me. I just want some kind of life to go on to, whatever that may be, I am struggling to find that out, I cannot see the light at the end of the tunnel, and delaying me that right is taking it's toll, like I previously stated, I am becoming very cynical of the whole system, the red tape is prodigious and is designed to avoid a speedy recovery. So were do we go from here? Is anyone's guess, but from what I have seen and heard it will not be in the injured workers best interest, and the sooner this problem is addressed the better for all involved. PS. I still have a good sense of humor, although the laughter comes less frequently and I tend to be more concerned now than ever with the direction of my life. BAD ATTITUDE
Awaking in pain on a daily basis has taken a huge toll on my psychic behavior. I have learned to control my RANTINGS (took a few 911 calls) but this has been accomplished, HOWEVER when somebody acts unreasonable and contradictory to avoid addressing the real merits of my situation. Dial 911 immediately because I really don't care anymore, and won't shut-up, BE WARNED get ready for the tongue lashing of your life. You see, I have vocal cords that can and do hit 190 decibels and the look on their faces shows their extreme displeasure.This helps me to vent my frustration and to reduce my pent-up desire to just smack them, believe me I feel they have earned it with their ignorance. (I really fantasize about just giving them just one haymaker, which would give them a well deserved attitude adjustment.) But of course would be wrong and wouldn't solve anything. Like everyone knows, two wrongs don't make a right, (but it sure feels good to unload my anger on them) I really like the saying ("sticks and stones can break the bones but words can never hurt them") but I bet it smarts and makes them uncomfortable and more than a little nervous.If this helps some poor other injured soul from having to listen to the irrational statements made by all involved.HURRAH.mission accomplished.it's downright sickening what injured workers have to put up with..I haven't seen it all.However what I have seen, is just the tip of the ice-berg. You see, after all I have been through, I have learned that Workers Insurance Corp. is definitely not acting in the interest of the injured worker but is a Quasi-Judicial system designed to avoid addressing the real merits of the case, time and time again I have seen other injured souls lives completely destroyed by these unjust corporations. Make NO mistake, they can and do make the most witless decisions and then run and hide behind their legislative acts and statutes. This serves no purpose and further delays the injured worker recovery and frequently exasperates a situation that is easy solved if properly addressed. This bureaucracy is designed to separate the fakers from the needy, but has turned into a fight for almost everyone involved. Severely Injured Workers are now bearing the brunt of a system designed to help them but which has gone awry from its intended purpose. Don't get me wrong, I know everyone is not subjected to this treatment and that some injured workers are treated very fair. However it seems that more and more disabled injured workers are having huge struggles due to the way that Workers Insurance Corp. is now dealing with claims, and this should concern everyone, as just like myself I never thought I would need their help, nor did I have any understanding of what awaited me. I just want some kind of life to go on to, whatever that may be, I am struggling to find that out, I cannot see the light at the end of the tunnel, and delaying me that right is taking it's toll, like I previously stated, I am becoming very cynical of the whole system, the red tape is prodigious and is designed to avoid a speedy recovery. So were do we go from here? Is anyone's guess, but from what I have seen and heard it will not be in the injured workers best interest, and the sooner this problem is addressed the better for all involved. PS. I still have a good sense of humor, although the laughter comes less frequently and I tend to be more concerned now than ever with the direction of my life. BAD ATTITUDE
March 5, 2008
http://www.ciws.ca/petitionhome.htm
This is a link to a petition to help all injured workers accross Canada. Please take a moment to look through and sign it. We can change WCB, if we stick together.
name : Jacob
This is a link to a petition to help all injured workers accross Canada. Please take a moment to look through and sign it. We can change WCB, if we stick together.
name : Jacob
March 5, 2008
How is it that wcb can change policies to better themselves and the employers,and the injured wokers get thrown to the wolves????????? My life has changed drastically since my repeated injuries on the job as a sawmill worker. It seems with the new policies a permanent aggravation to a condition I was unaware for my whole working life can be bought off with a mere 2.5%, NO RE-TRAINING,GET FIRED!! from the employer, and all I get is sorry about your luck after they drag everything out for 5 years. To date I am still unable to work as defined by my doctor, the spinal surgeon also said we should try conservative therapy for now which got translated into there is nothing wrong by wcb and wcat.,I also have continued treatment. I suffer every day with dibilatating low back pain (which for most has a significant barier for mobility)I have not even been on pain meds nor have they been giving. I have grd 8 education cannot perform any physical labouring tasks but conveinently enough WCB says Ican go back to my pre injury job oh ya they said" had I not severd my employment ties Hmmm.seems that the powers that be all spoon togther in the same bed. medical evidence that is equally weighed or coflicting should favor the worker that is B.S. In may case a CT scan clearly showed a bulging disc contacting nerve root and gr 1 spondylothesis and facet dysfunction. how is it that for many years I could perform work duties without any problems and now after injuring my back I'm unable too, not to mention for over five years I haven't been able to do the things I love such a take my son fishing skiing hiking go for a 20 minute walk without complications.
It seems that a system put in place to protect injured workers has been thrown out the window for the profit margin. I have not had two pennies to rub together for five years not even welfare, but it is OK for wcb and employers to destroy lives of honest and hard working people. Did I mention I liked my job and my pay checks and my life style, I wish I had gone with a real lawyer instead of an advocate from the workers advisors, agian just another bias opinion and job creation. If I could re-live those years over I wouldn't have gave them 100% of hard working me because at the end of the day It cost me a meaningfull life . The sawmill that disciminated me still kicks me while I'm down.I wonder If that ever gets brought up in thier church?(hypocrits) Maybe B.C needs to Take a class action suit against wcb!!!! name : justanotherpeeon
It seems that a system put in place to protect injured workers has been thrown out the window for the profit margin. I have not had two pennies to rub together for five years not even welfare, but it is OK for wcb and employers to destroy lives of honest and hard working people. Did I mention I liked my job and my pay checks and my life style, I wish I had gone with a real lawyer instead of an advocate from the workers advisors, agian just another bias opinion and job creation. If I could re-live those years over I wouldn't have gave them 100% of hard working me because at the end of the day It cost me a meaningfull life . The sawmill that disciminated me still kicks me while I'm down.I wonder If that ever gets brought up in thier church?(hypocrits) Maybe B.C needs to Take a class action suit against wcb!!!! name : justanotherpeeon
March 4, 2008
Bad Attitude: I am glad that you are a fighter and won't quit. I know how you feel. I have been going through this for a few years and the process is extremely frustrating and painful.
I have learned though, losing my patience is not going to help me, and it isn't going to help anyone around me. No one will ever know what we feel like and the pain we go through every single minute. But, we also have to try to put ourselves in our loved one's shoes, and try to understand how hard it is to deal with all of this too. As hard as it is, I try to be thankful for one new thing every day that I have in my life. I have many terrible things, but I can't control that. I live once and I have absolutely no choice but to try to make the best of it. I have gone through all the stages.....anger, guilt, depression, anger again....but I have learned that being upset is not going to change the way they treat us. Don't let them get to you...or anyone who doesn't understand. Anger also won't help your pain. Anger is a stage we all need to go through, but don't get stuck at that stage. Try to smile and keep fighting them.
To all IW's and their families. I highly recommend a Psychologist. I went for a year and it helped me tremendously. I would still go, but of course WCB cut me off. The former me - no longer exists, and I am learning to accept the new me and making the best of it. It took a lot of work to get to this stage and it's still not easy.
Life isn't always fair, but there is always a purpose for everything that happens.
I have learned though, losing my patience is not going to help me, and it isn't going to help anyone around me. No one will ever know what we feel like and the pain we go through every single minute. But, we also have to try to put ourselves in our loved one's shoes, and try to understand how hard it is to deal with all of this too. As hard as it is, I try to be thankful for one new thing every day that I have in my life. I have many terrible things, but I can't control that. I live once and I have absolutely no choice but to try to make the best of it. I have gone through all the stages.....anger, guilt, depression, anger again....but I have learned that being upset is not going to change the way they treat us. Don't let them get to you...or anyone who doesn't understand. Anger also won't help your pain. Anger is a stage we all need to go through, but don't get stuck at that stage. Try to smile and keep fighting them.
To all IW's and their families. I highly recommend a Psychologist. I went for a year and it helped me tremendously. I would still go, but of course WCB cut me off. The former me - no longer exists, and I am learning to accept the new me and making the best of it. It took a lot of work to get to this stage and it's still not easy.
Life isn't always fair, but there is always a purpose for everything that happens.
March 4, 2008
I have a DREAM….In my dream I get treated like a human being, diagnostic tests are ordered up pronto…stat…everything that can humanly be done
to ease the pain and suffering is done with fever. I am wheeled into the operating room, and my 8 injuries are all diagnosed with lightning speed, I receive the best treatment that Canadian Physicians have to offer and I am treated with dignity and respect. Workers Insurance Corporation fully understands my injuries and designs a program for me to re-enter society as a disabled injured worker, not too my previous occupation that I can no longer do, but to a real job with a real future, a job that I can hold with my physical disabilities, a job that I can support my family, a job that will not injure me further, a job were I can hold my head up high and show everyone that I have something to contribute… In my new job, I gain self-esteem, my children are aware of my limitations, my family is reunited and life returns to some kind of normalcy…….
Then I wake up….in pain….struggling to understand what today will bring, will I freak out on someone, I have lost all patience with almost everyone, my friends have fallen to the wayside like the leaves that drop off the trees in the fall wind, my family tiptoes around me as they know I am hurting and in pain 24/7, the look on my face says it all…. Please kill me, put me out of my misery. Life would be better for you if I had the courage to end it right this minute. However, I am a fighter and will never ever quit, until my last breath I will continue to try and regain my former self.
I feel guilty that I have become self-centered, selfish, sarcastic and cynical, but what the hell, if the shoe fits,, wear it…and life goes on, though at a increasingly vengeful pace, for the ones who have stood in the way of my rehabilitation. I have developed a really BAD ATTITUDE towards anyone who stands in the way of my progress in search of healthcare or has contributed to my injuries knowingly or unknowingly, to me they will pay. I have NO qualms or hesitation in making their lives as miserable as they have made mine, When they turn a blind eye to my situation, I will remind them by any means possible, short of physical violence. If that means taking them to court.. so be it….get your Attorney ready…believe me you’ll need one…the gloves are off now…the many questions that I have,, need answers…the slanderous reports that you have sent to Workers Insurance Corporation in which you have libeled me are going to haunt you.
Why you would treat another human being like you have me, shocks and amazes me with your pretentious behavior, and like previously stated if the shoe fits, you will be made to wear it, like it or not.
BAD ATTITUDE
Then I wake up….in pain….struggling to understand what today will bring, will I freak out on someone, I have lost all patience with almost everyone, my friends have fallen to the wayside like the leaves that drop off the trees in the fall wind, my family tiptoes around me as they know I am hurting and in pain 24/7, the look on my face says it all…. Please kill me, put me out of my misery. Life would be better for you if I had the courage to end it right this minute. However, I am a fighter and will never ever quit, until my last breath I will continue to try and regain my former self.
I feel guilty that I have become self-centered, selfish, sarcastic and cynical, but what the hell, if the shoe fits,, wear it…and life goes on, though at a increasingly vengeful pace, for the ones who have stood in the way of my rehabilitation. I have developed a really BAD ATTITUDE towards anyone who stands in the way of my progress in search of healthcare or has contributed to my injuries knowingly or unknowingly, to me they will pay. I have NO qualms or hesitation in making their lives as miserable as they have made mine, When they turn a blind eye to my situation, I will remind them by any means possible, short of physical violence. If that means taking them to court.. so be it….get your Attorney ready…believe me you’ll need one…the gloves are off now…the many questions that I have,, need answers…the slanderous reports that you have sent to Workers Insurance Corporation in which you have libeled me are going to haunt you.
Why you would treat another human being like you have me, shocks and amazes me with your pretentious behavior, and like previously stated if the shoe fits, you will be made to wear it, like it or not.
BAD ATTITUDE
March 3, 2008
john, bless you if you have had the good fortune to be well advised and aided with your claim.
I know that there has been some internal problems at the board and maybe a few workers have come to the conclusion that they must do what is right.
Could you pass on their names and areas of expertice so that some of us can contact them for help.
It was such a releif that you found a decient worker that helped you.
We all wait with excitement to hear who it is we can contact for help.
Thank you for your braviory to bring this to our attention.
Look forward to hearing from you .Harry
I know that there has been some internal problems at the board and maybe a few workers have come to the conclusion that they must do what is right.
Could you pass on their names and areas of expertice so that some of us can contact them for help.
It was such a releif that you found a decient worker that helped you.
We all wait with excitement to hear who it is we can contact for help.
Thank you for your braviory to bring this to our attention.
Look forward to hearing from you .Harry
March 3, 2008
Maybe John would care to share what worked for him and what did not? I notice that there is no mention of his injury, nor what benefits, if any, he receives.
I am aware of several workers who are in receipt of full benefits until age 65. Few, if any, got the decision without a fair amount of trouble.
I doubt John is a WSIB spy, as he is too heavy handed with his post; more likely he is just your garden variety Troll.
As the famous cartoon put it; "ON the internet, no one knows you're a dog." http://www.unc.edu/depts/jomc/academics/dri/idog.html
I am aware of several workers who are in receipt of full benefits until age 65. Few, if any, got the decision without a fair amount of trouble.
I doubt John is a WSIB spy, as he is too heavy handed with his post; more likely he is just your garden variety Troll.
As the famous cartoon put it; "ON the internet, no one knows you're a dog." http://www.unc.edu/depts/jomc/academics/dri/idog.html
February 28, 2008
Fellow Injured Workers. My husband had his day on Feb 6 08. It was with the WSIAT the final decision. And he won his case to a extent. Now WSIB has 30 days to come back with the figure to my husband. My husbands case has been very long and complicated from day one. As I said before he had 3 issues. BUT WSIB picked the one where my husband owed them money, he only owes not even near to what WSIB says (YES) I was very happy with the decision. WSIAT even went above and beyond at the end to see why, the other 2 issues were not dealt with first. As he said he could only comment on the one issue which was the money owed to WSIB. WSIB put 2 appeals on the back burner from 2004 and took 2006,s appeal first make,s no sence to me. Now heres the good part, my husband was never in fault of reporting to WSIB of material change he received a fine. So heres where now I can hire a lawyer which already has his file. LOOK OUT WSIB here we come at you. I never thought WSIAT would amount to anything but they do. I,ve read all this mans cases he did, and they were in favor of the injured worker to an extent.They really do work for the injured. He told my husband he like,s to think he is a fair man. I think he was. Now WSIB has to deal with these,s issue,s no more BullS---t.It,s been very hard long frustrating tired dragged out ordeal. Now I hope we can close this chapter of our life's within this year. If back then when he got hurt (I) or as he says,if I only known what Ive known today, things would have been different.We still have a way to go, (BUT)I hope its done because as his wife I probably would have committed suicide a long tyme ago.See its hard on everyone. I hope for all you Injured workers you get the best of help needed to you all. Same on you WSIB.
February 28, 2008
NEW IW Site - http://iwocac.ning.com/ - IWAAC Injured Workers All Across Canada - Come one come all - Injured Workers or Injured Worker Family Members - Injured Workers Reps Welcome Bring Your Help And Expertise To Those Of Us Who Need You Help - All Sugestions And Help Welcome.
With Thanks TO CIWA. CHARLEE
February 28, 2008
Injured workers don,t get upset with this meathead John or a Wsib spy comment. Of course he is a WSIB monitering this site. There really hasn,t been action on here, so they the Spys of WSIB have to put one of there goons to spy. Relax this is what there all about work up your dander.Just keep up what youse are doing because John, must have smoked something or fell off of his spy chair LMAO.( Josee)John see I don,t even hide myself.
February 28, 2008
Friday, February 29th, 2008 is International RSI Awareness Day. Check your neighbourhood to see what events are planned. Take the opportunity to join them in promoting injury prevention and raising awareness about the prevalence of RSIs and their life altering effects.
Workers forced to do monotonous, repetitive jobs, who work too long or too fast without enough breaks, are affected by RSIs. Poor work organization (unnecessary overtime, cutbacks and layoffs, substandard equipment, lack of worker control) contributes to RSIs.
The first RSI Awareness Day was February 29, 2000. That day was selected because it was the only non-repetitive day of the year. The day is recognized on the 28th in non-leap years.
Workers forced to do monotonous, repetitive jobs, who work too long or too fast without enough breaks, are affected by RSIs. Poor work organization (unnecessary overtime, cutbacks and layoffs, substandard equipment, lack of worker control) contributes to RSIs.
The first RSI Awareness Day was February 29, 2000. That day was selected because it was the only non-repetitive day of the year. The day is recognized on the 28th in non-leap years.
February 28, 2008
Here is a link to the updates Appeal practices and procedures manual from the WSIB.
http://www.wsib.on.ca/wsib/wsibsite.nsf/LookupFiles/DownloadableFileAppealPP/$File/AppealsP&P.pdf
February 28, 2008
DEAR JOHN: Now isnt that special. Have you ever heard of divide and conquer? Of course they arent going to deny all claims. If your satisfied that is good,but why pray tell are you on this site. SHOULDER AND SPINE EXPERIMENT
February 28, 2008
John,
I'm sorry, but I don't believe you. Impossible! Workers comp agrees that my injury happened at work, they say I am disabled, yet I am cut of off everything. You're full of ...! Since 1998, eh? So, no appeals necessary? Your NEL is just perfect? Your LMR/RTW was just perfect? And your income has been perfect? Or did you just have simple injury unlike us who are disabled for life and truly can not return to work? Something does not sound right about your post. I bet you are a workers comp employee. If you are, it's disgusting that workers comp has turned into employers insurance over the years. Just absolutely disgusting. Many IW's are living in poverty. I may end up being one of them if this keeps up.
I'm sorry, but I don't believe you. Impossible! Workers comp agrees that my injury happened at work, they say I am disabled, yet I am cut of off everything. You're full of ...! Since 1998, eh? So, no appeals necessary? Your NEL is just perfect? Your LMR/RTW was just perfect? And your income has been perfect? Or did you just have simple injury unlike us who are disabled for life and truly can not return to work? Something does not sound right about your post. I bet you are a workers comp employee. If you are, it's disgusting that workers comp has turned into employers insurance over the years. Just absolutely disgusting. Many IW's are living in poverty. I may end up being one of them if this keeps up.
February 27, 2008
Hi my name is John. I have been involved with the WSIB since 1988. I have read these letters and am astonished with what I'm reading! WSIB has been absolutely fantastic with me and with my injuries. The WSIB are there for me whenever I need them. WSIB has enabled me to have a life again following my injuries. I appreciate all the hard, very supportive work and assistance the WSIB has given me.
I am truly thankful to the WSIB for all they have done and continue to do!! Thanks WSIB!!
John
I am truly thankful to the WSIB for all they have done and continue to do!! Thanks WSIB!!
John
February 25, 2008
There is a new injured worker site http://iwocac.ning.com/
for sharing stories and asking others with the experience and expertise in WCB matters for help. Hopefully some of the folks that come here and share will also go there and share and provide help to those with WCB questions and WCB 'Horror Stories' to find aswers. Come one came all.
for sharing stories and asking others with the experience and expertise in WCB matters for help. Hopefully some of the folks that come here and share will also go there and share and provide help to those with WCB questions and WCB 'Horror Stories' to find aswers. Come one came all.
February 21, 2008
Anything posted after today at 4.30 EST, will not go up until Monday morning.Thank you for your patience
February 21, 2008
To the Widow, of the "Blue Collar Worker" with the USWA - please contact our office - 1-877-787-7010 or send your email addy. I might have some info for you.
Thank You, Monika / CIWA
Thank You, Monika / CIWA
February 21, 2008
To all my brother and sister injured workers: Workers Compensation is and always will be an insurance program to protect employer's. I wish I would have just quit my job when things appeared dicey. I thought that by being extra careful, I could protect myself, therefore never needing workers compensation benefits. However in 1/100 of a second I suffered severe injury. What has happened since then is truly HORRIFIC. Multiple physician examinations, fighting for diagnostic tests, subjected to an insurance system designed to avoid helping me. This system SUCKS..
I just wanted to be recovered from my injury, so I could return to work, DUE to the way that workers compensation works..I was sent back to work undiagnosed in severe pain.
I suffered further injury, and am now in chronic pain.
My day consists of very little hope, if I try to go without the meds, it's literally unbearable. EVERY TIME workers compensation does something, it's to their benefit.
I have been treated like a piece of crap at EVERTHING that workers compensation has been involved in.
I wish I would have gotten a lawyer right at the start.
I just wanted to be recovered from my injury, so I could return to work, DUE to the way that workers compensation works..I was sent back to work undiagnosed in severe pain.
I suffered further injury, and am now in chronic pain.
My day consists of very little hope, if I try to go without the meds, it's literally unbearable. EVERY TIME workers compensation does something, it's to their benefit.
I have been treated like a piece of crap at EVERTHING that workers compensation has been involved in.
I wish I would have gotten a lawyer right at the start.
February 21, 2008
To all my brothers and sisters who have been injured on the job and are now paying dearly because of those grand maniulaters, the WSIB. I've just recently visited your web site for the first time and after read several Forms that are posted on this site, I can truly relate to what was said. I to am an injured worker and have been dealing with WSIB for the past, going on 7 years. I beleive I'm finally ready to proceed with all my appeals. I too am not fully convinced that the OWA has their best intentions in mind when it come to representing the injured worker.
I would truly appreciate if anyone could provide the name of a very good lawyer who handles work related inury claims.
name : Barnabuster
I would truly appreciate if anyone could provide the name of a very good lawyer who handles work related inury claims.
name : Barnabuster
February 21, 2008
Hi all.
Just to add to the post I sent and to other good information. For those who have been pushed to the edge or feel they cannot fight WSIB. Keep your claim updated, asks your doctor to send in his reports. They told my doctor to not send any more as they would not pay for them. That is one good way to close your claim. Anyways Keep you claim updated even when they say it is closed. Send letters and updates and keep copy's...
Keep watching on this and other Injured Worker web sights for people who have made some progress. This was the best help for me as I do not understand the policy and procedure that the board follows.
I only know what is true and what is not.
Harry
Just to add to the post I sent and to other good information. For those who have been pushed to the edge or feel they cannot fight WSIB. Keep your claim updated, asks your doctor to send in his reports. They told my doctor to not send any more as they would not pay for them. That is one good way to close your claim. Anyways Keep you claim updated even when they say it is closed. Send letters and updates and keep copy's...
Keep watching on this and other Injured Worker web sights for people who have made some progress. This was the best help for me as I do not understand the policy and procedure that the board follows.
I only know what is true and what is not.
Harry
February 21, 2008
Ontario workers may want to check out the Community Legal Education of Ontario WSIB related pages:
http://www.cleo.on.ca/english/pub/onpub/subject/compen.htm as well, there is an online version of the IAVGO/CLEO WSIB advocates manual at the link below: http://www.cleo.on.ca/english/wcManual/cover.htm An educated and informed injured worker, is a dangerous injured worker [at least as far as the system is concerned ;>) ]
http://www.cleo.on.ca/english/pub/onpub/subject/compen.htm as well, there is an online version of the IAVGO/CLEO WSIB advocates manual at the link below: http://www.cleo.on.ca/english/wcManual/cover.htm An educated and informed injured worker, is a dangerous injured worker [at least as far as the system is concerned ;>) ]
February 21, 2008
To Disabled but Determined;
Actually, I've known a couple of injured workers who started their own businesses and are doing fine; one does renovations and the other has a computer business. One went through LMR with the goal of starting a computer business and the first couple of years was rough; the renovation business worker opted for a settlement in order to end the BS. That's no longer a common option though.
You are unclear about your lawyer, are they paid directly by you, from a community clinic, legal aid or have they taken your case on contingency? Not all these options are open to workers across the province and there are often means tests involved, while contingency can eat up a significant portion of your benefits. To the best of my knowledge, WSIAT does not award costs or damages, so legal fees come out of benefits if the lawyer is working on contingency. Still x amount of something is better than nothing, if you can find a lawyer willing to go that route. For what it's worth, I agree that one should choose a lawyer who has experience with WCB as the amount of stonewalling can be daunting.
While I have seen it happen to others, if you are able to discuss it, I'm interested in knowing how the Board refuses to pay benefits while admitting you are disabled; did they claim nonco-operation? The issue is not whether or not the Board or employers read this site, but rather, that workers post as if they do; do not give someone the ammunition to fight their case against you. Workers sharing positive experiences as well as tips on what to do and what to avoid can only result in more positive decisions.
Good luck.
February 20, 2008
Harry: I agree with everything you said! I have learned the exact same things and I hope everyone reading will learn from what you wrote. My lawyer doesn't even use the copy of my file he got from workers comp. He just gets my files directly from my doctors because workers comp altered and omitted things from my file. I write down my symptoms every single day as well so that they can never say that in between specialist appointments etc that I was fine because I know they will try. I can't wait till they see all my evidence and my recordings. My lawyer said I will win because I have enough evidence. It's unbelievable what workers comp has done. There is no way an adjudicator can have a heart with the things they do. Maybe they are robots? lol Good luck with your surgery Harry! Just make sure you get the right opinions. After surgery I thought I would be fine, but I had failed back surgery and will be disabled for life now. Most surgeries go well though so I'm sure it will be fine, but make sure you look into all your options before you take that route. Good luck with everything!
I am also curious to know if anyone was sucessful with escaping workers comp by starting a business. I am young myself so my fear is that as time goes on, I will go down hill more and may not be successful. Once you cut yourself off, that is it. So make sure your plan is 100% flaw free before going ahead with it. 95% of businesses fail, so it's risky, but at the same time, how wonderful it would be to get rid of the stress of workers comp. My lawyer is fighting for a good LMR plan for me....maybe look into that route (with a lawyer, not the regular BS LMR workers comp pushes)? If that would fail, I still have my lawyer to help me with workers comp. I no longer deal with workers comp mail or phone calls. My lawyer deals with everything and life is so much more stress free! That's how I kinda escaped them.
To the person who wrote "can wsib pick and choose". Of course they can if they can get away with it. Is it right? No. So, keep fighting! Most people give up, that is why they do it and get away with it. They will make you jump hoops, but keep jumping because eventually you will win and it will be worth it. If you are able to and if the will accept your case, get a lawyer experienced in wsib cases (do not get a regular lawyer because you will have to pay a lot more up front) Good luck!
To the person who got fired. Never write "I did not have the knowledge or experience to do my job". If you write that, then you are agreeing with them even though you don't. Do you have a union you can go to regarding this issue? That would be your best bet. If you have a new interview, just say it didn't work out and try to redirect them to all your experience from your previous jobs.
To the widow....my heart goes out to you. Wsib is an unfair cruel system. We need to keep fighting and spread the word so this system can be more fair for the injured workers and their families. I don't know how I can help you, but I wish you all the best. Stay positive though, that's the most important thing.
As for me. I am disabled for life due to my work place injury. I am cut off everything even though worker comp says I am still disabled. I also got fired so I lost my health plan, life insurance, benefits, etc and will never qualify for new benefits. I am only in my 20s. This workers comp system is unfair and disgusting. I will keep fighting, and hopefully one day I can write on here too that I beat them because I am determined to win this. Thank you everyone for your advice and for sharing your experiences! It has helped me a lot. I don't care if workers comp employees want to read this site. Let them read about what we go through. Keep writing on here and spread the word!
name : Disabled, but determined to stay happy and win
I am also curious to know if anyone was sucessful with escaping workers comp by starting a business. I am young myself so my fear is that as time goes on, I will go down hill more and may not be successful. Once you cut yourself off, that is it. So make sure your plan is 100% flaw free before going ahead with it. 95% of businesses fail, so it's risky, but at the same time, how wonderful it would be to get rid of the stress of workers comp. My lawyer is fighting for a good LMR plan for me....maybe look into that route (with a lawyer, not the regular BS LMR workers comp pushes)? If that would fail, I still have my lawyer to help me with workers comp. I no longer deal with workers comp mail or phone calls. My lawyer deals with everything and life is so much more stress free! That's how I kinda escaped them.
To the person who wrote "can wsib pick and choose". Of course they can if they can get away with it. Is it right? No. So, keep fighting! Most people give up, that is why they do it and get away with it. They will make you jump hoops, but keep jumping because eventually you will win and it will be worth it. If you are able to and if the will accept your case, get a lawyer experienced in wsib cases (do not get a regular lawyer because you will have to pay a lot more up front) Good luck!
To the person who got fired. Never write "I did not have the knowledge or experience to do my job". If you write that, then you are agreeing with them even though you don't. Do you have a union you can go to regarding this issue? That would be your best bet. If you have a new interview, just say it didn't work out and try to redirect them to all your experience from your previous jobs.
To the widow....my heart goes out to you. Wsib is an unfair cruel system. We need to keep fighting and spread the word so this system can be more fair for the injured workers and their families. I don't know how I can help you, but I wish you all the best. Stay positive though, that's the most important thing.
As for me. I am disabled for life due to my work place injury. I am cut off everything even though worker comp says I am still disabled. I also got fired so I lost my health plan, life insurance, benefits, etc and will never qualify for new benefits. I am only in my 20s. This workers comp system is unfair and disgusting. I will keep fighting, and hopefully one day I can write on here too that I beat them because I am determined to win this. Thank you everyone for your advice and for sharing your experiences! It has helped me a lot. I don't care if workers comp employees want to read this site. Let them read about what we go through. Keep writing on here and spread the word!
name : Disabled, but determined to stay happy and win
February 20, 2008
Widowed:
Further to my last message I will also lose my Health Care Benefits that my late husband had thru the Employer Benefit Plan.
My son has Hogkins Disease.
It will cost me a fortune, I cannot afford.
And what has really ticked me off, is the United Steelworkers Of America has told ne to accept what the WSIB offers me as I am just another Blue Collars Workers Wife.
Bullshit.
My son has Hogkins Disease.
It will cost me a fortune, I cannot afford.
And what has really ticked me off, is the United Steelworkers Of America has told ne to accept what the WSIB offers me as I am just another Blue Collars Workers Wife.
Bullshit.
February 20, 2008
Discussded Widow.
My husband was killed in a work related accident.
I now receive 85% of my late husbands net average earnings. (and because of the limits imposed by the WSIB this is not even close to his take home pay after taxes).
When my youngest child turns 19 next year, my benefits will be reduced to 47% of my late husbands earnings.
I will lose everything we have and have built up over 25 years.
How can I live and pay all of the expenses and support for my children who will be going to college on 47% of my husbands net take home pay? ( WSIB limits imposed). I have just done a budget based on my expenses and I will incur a shortfall of over $2200.00 per month when the WSIB recalculates my survivor benefits in 2009.
What a F****** system.
I lost my husband and now I will lose everything else.
My husband was killed in a work related accident.
I now receive 85% of my late husbands net average earnings. (and because of the limits imposed by the WSIB this is not even close to his take home pay after taxes).
When my youngest child turns 19 next year, my benefits will be reduced to 47% of my late husbands earnings.
I will lose everything we have and have built up over 25 years.
How can I live and pay all of the expenses and support for my children who will be going to college on 47% of my husbands net take home pay? ( WSIB limits imposed). I have just done a budget based on my expenses and I will incur a shortfall of over $2200.00 per month when the WSIB recalculates my survivor benefits in 2009.
What a F****** system.
I lost my husband and now I will lose everything else.
February 20, 2008
Monday, November 19, 2007
On Tuesday November 13, 2007. I've made an incident report at work about pain to my right elbow and then went to see the doctor after work. The doctor filled out form 8 and FAF stating specified limitation no lifting, climbing for 7 days and also prescribed medication. I also didn't missed any time at work in regards to this.
On Friday November 16, 2007 at about 3:45 the plant manager called me to his office to let me know that I was terminated and the reason was that I didn't have the knowledge and experience to do the job and asked me to sign the letter which I refused.
I find it strange that after four and a half months without any verbal or written warning they just realized that I am not competent anymore specially that I've been working as a maintenance technician most of my life and I always had excellent reviews and references from my prior employers . I would like to send you a few attachments in regards of safety issues and concern for employees since I don't need to worry about loosing my job anymore. I've also heard that they hired a construction electrician to replace me on Monday November 16, 2007 who has no knowledge or experience about injection moulding. My other concern is how I am supposed to respond at an interview about the reason why I am not working for the prior company. Should I answer that I did not have the knowledge and experience to do my job.
Also if you looked into their WSIB file you will notice that there are a few incident reports lately.
I would like to file a complaint but since I've never had this kind of problems before I would like to get some advice from you in regards to this matter.
Please reply upon reception
Thank you drillpiko@yahoo.ca
On Tuesday November 13, 2007. I've made an incident report at work about pain to my right elbow and then went to see the doctor after work. The doctor filled out form 8 and FAF stating specified limitation no lifting, climbing for 7 days and also prescribed medication. I also didn't missed any time at work in regards to this.
On Friday November 16, 2007 at about 3:45 the plant manager called me to his office to let me know that I was terminated and the reason was that I didn't have the knowledge and experience to do the job and asked me to sign the letter which I refused.
I find it strange that after four and a half months without any verbal or written warning they just realized that I am not competent anymore specially that I've been working as a maintenance technician most of my life and I always had excellent reviews and references from my prior employers . I would like to send you a few attachments in regards of safety issues and concern for employees since I don't need to worry about loosing my job anymore. I've also heard that they hired a construction electrician to replace me on Monday November 16, 2007 who has no knowledge or experience about injection moulding. My other concern is how I am supposed to respond at an interview about the reason why I am not working for the prior company. Should I answer that I did not have the knowledge and experience to do my job.
Also if you looked into their WSIB file you will notice that there are a few incident reports lately.
I would like to file a complaint but since I've never had this kind of problems before I would like to get some advice from you in regards to this matter.
Please reply upon reception
Thank you drillpiko@yahoo.ca
February 20, 2008
I have a question if anyone has been in the same boat, with issues. Can WSIB pick and choice what they want if you have several appeals together. My husband had 3 appeals went into this meeting,thinking all 3 issues would be dealt with.(at the tribunal). Wrong the board passed and focused on one of the appeals how to get back the money he owes WSIB. Pushed the other two aside. Now he has to rewrite his issues again submit to her at WSIB, so she can give to the vice chairman of the tribunal, then they will submit there, (what ever back) to WSIB and they will contact my husband. If this is not a bunch of Bull S__t I,ve ever been thru and seen, I don,t know what is. Its like playing a game LETS SEE HOW TO SCREW HIM EVEN MORE.I am so F___ing Pissed off, god only know what I will do. I for one have had enough of there BS.Any one got any answers.
February 19, 2008
Sincere thanks to you for your efforts writing to the ombudsman. It has not gone without notice.
Your help in motivating others to do the same would create the impact that we need to move forward. i believe these letters alone will put the ombudsman in a position to help us. I am sure he knows of all these injustices we talk about but our letters are documented proof that he can act on. Verbal communication never has or never will be taken seriously.
Denis Landry, Ontario Workers League
408-2031 Merchants Gate, Oakville, Ontario, L6M 3J2 dlandry@ontarioworkersleague.org My email for conducting OWL's affairs is now dlandry@ontarioworkersleague.org
My website www.ontarioworkersleague.org
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Sunday, February 17, 2008 Hello everyone Subject: Media Resources It has been exactly one month since the original letter went out to the Ombudsman and he has acknowledged our plight. Please feel free to take a few minutes of your time to write your story about wrong doing by W.S.I.B and forward it to the media, ombudsman, your MPP etc. It has always been and will always be “ Your are only going to get what your are willing to fight for.” When we have accomplished our goals you will be able to take pride in the fact that you helped create history. Together we have created the winds for change ! For those of you that would like to take up the challenge and send a letter to the editor about reform of the WSIB/WCB, check out the link below to the OPSEU website with a list of email addresses to Ontario newspapers. This list has been provided by Bonita Ombudsman of Ontario: Andre Marin
Minister of Labour : Hon. Brad Duguid
Ontario Building Trades: Patrick Dillon
W.S.I.B. : Hon. Steven W. Mahoney
C.S.A.O.: R. B. O’ Rourke
http://www.opseu.org/media/emaileditor.htm
Thank you in advance for your due diligence in this vital matter.
Denis landry If one of you happens to see an injustice, you are no longer a spectator, you are a participant, and you have an obligation to do something. June Callwood 1924 - 2007
Example of a letter to the ombudsman:
To: Ombudsman of Ontario: Andre Marin (dmorra@ombudsman.on.ca)
Minister of Labour : Hon. Brad Duguid (bduguid.mpp.co@liberal.ola.org)
Ontario Building Trades: Patrick Dillon (patrick@ontariobuildingtrades.com)
W.S.I.B. : Hon. Steven W. Mahoney ( c/o christine_arnott@wsib.on.ca)
C.S.A.O.: R. B. O’ Rourke (info@csao.org)
The practices of WSIB must be investigated in several areas including:
1) Workers are working unsafely in fear of reprisals for application of the green book.
2) Employers are hiding workplace injuries to improve their premiums by way of having injured workers attend the workplace despite being unable to do work. Injured workers cannot rest and recuperate this way.
3) Employers are hiding workplace illnesses by convincing injured workers to go off work on Short/Long Term disability insurance instead of filing a WSIB claim.
4) WSIB are denying many claims quickly instead of giving them careful consideration which is forcing many injured workers to use up their RRSPs or go on welfare.
5) Many times it seems that WSIB is trying to bankrupt the worker with constant delays, hoping that their claim will go away! Often, the worker gives up. Injured workers should not be treated with such disrespect when all they want is to be healthy and fit to work again.
Before I became disabled by Multiple Chemical Sensitivities, I was the department safety coordinator at a chemical factory. It is a job most people hate because you are in a position of middleman between management and workers. Management doesn't like the extra expense and time required for all the safety training, requalification, equipment and improvements and employees balk at the recertification training required annually, doing all the safety audits, inspections etc.
I learned this valuable lesson during my years in this position: The attitude of upper management to the importance of the safety program defines how seriously it is accepted at all levels in the organization.
I have seen this first hand. When we had a plant manager that mandated and enforced that safety was everybody's number one priority, it became so. Safety was the first topic of discussion at every meeting, everybody, including management had to qualify and re-qualify on all safety training annually, everybody had to own a piece of the safety program (complete a monthly audit, inspection, do a safety meeting etc.) repairs or improvements for safety reasons were always completed on a top priority basis etc. It all changed when the upper management changed!
Perhaps the MOL and WSIB need to work on changing the attitudes of upper management so that the effects will trickle down to all levels.
I sincerely hope you will consider the points I have made and work to improve these areas so that we can really make Ontario a safer place to live and work, instead of just having it appear so.
Bonita Poulin, Quadeville, Ont.
Canadian Coordinator, GLOBAL RECOGNITION CAMPAIGN
Multiple Chemical Sensitivity and other Chemically Induced Illnesses, Diseases & Injury affecting civilians and military personnel
More coordinators needed!
www.mcs-global.org
Denis Landry, Ontario Workers League
408-2031 Merchants Gate, Oakville, Ontario, L6M 3J2 dlandry@ontarioworkersleague.org My email for conducting OWL's affairs is now dlandry@ontarioworkersleague.org
My website www.ontarioworkersleague.org
is under construction
Sunday, February 17, 2008 Hello everyone Subject: Media Resources It has been exactly one month since the original letter went out to the Ombudsman and he has acknowledged our plight. Please feel free to take a few minutes of your time to write your story about wrong doing by W.S.I.B and forward it to the media, ombudsman, your MPP etc. It has always been and will always be “ Your are only going to get what your are willing to fight for.” When we have accomplished our goals you will be able to take pride in the fact that you helped create history. Together we have created the winds for change ! For those of you that would like to take up the challenge and send a letter to the editor about reform of the WSIB/WCB, check out the link below to the OPSEU website with a list of email addresses to Ontario newspapers. This list has been provided by Bonita Ombudsman of Ontario: Andre Marin
Minister of Labour : Hon. Brad Duguid
Ontario Building Trades: Patrick Dillon
W.S.I.B. : Hon. Steven W. Mahoney
C.S.A.O.: R. B. O’ Rourke
http://www.opseu.org/media/emaileditor.htm
Thank you in advance for your due diligence in this vital matter.
Denis landry If one of you happens to see an injustice, you are no longer a spectator, you are a participant, and you have an obligation to do something. June Callwood 1924 - 2007
Example of a letter to the ombudsman:
To: Ombudsman of Ontario: Andre Marin (dmorra@ombudsman.on.ca)
Minister of Labour : Hon. Brad Duguid (bduguid.mpp.co@liberal.ola.org)
Ontario Building Trades: Patrick Dillon (patrick@ontariobuildingtrades.com)
W.S.I.B. : Hon. Steven W. Mahoney ( c/o christine_arnott@wsib.on.ca)
C.S.A.O.: R. B. O’ Rourke (info@csao.org)
The practices of WSIB must be investigated in several areas including:
1) Workers are working unsafely in fear of reprisals for application of the green book.
2) Employers are hiding workplace injuries to improve their premiums by way of having injured workers attend the workplace despite being unable to do work. Injured workers cannot rest and recuperate this way.
3) Employers are hiding workplace illnesses by convincing injured workers to go off work on Short/Long Term disability insurance instead of filing a WSIB claim.
4) WSIB are denying many claims quickly instead of giving them careful consideration which is forcing many injured workers to use up their RRSPs or go on welfare.
5) Many times it seems that WSIB is trying to bankrupt the worker with constant delays, hoping that their claim will go away! Often, the worker gives up. Injured workers should not be treated with such disrespect when all they want is to be healthy and fit to work again.
Before I became disabled by Multiple Chemical Sensitivities, I was the department safety coordinator at a chemical factory. It is a job most people hate because you are in a position of middleman between management and workers. Management doesn't like the extra expense and time required for all the safety training, requalification, equipment and improvements and employees balk at the recertification training required annually, doing all the safety audits, inspections etc.
I learned this valuable lesson during my years in this position: The attitude of upper management to the importance of the safety program defines how seriously it is accepted at all levels in the organization.
I have seen this first hand. When we had a plant manager that mandated and enforced that safety was everybody's number one priority, it became so. Safety was the first topic of discussion at every meeting, everybody, including management had to qualify and re-qualify on all safety training annually, everybody had to own a piece of the safety program (complete a monthly audit, inspection, do a safety meeting etc.) repairs or improvements for safety reasons were always completed on a top priority basis etc. It all changed when the upper management changed!
Perhaps the MOL and WSIB need to work on changing the attitudes of upper management so that the effects will trickle down to all levels.
I sincerely hope you will consider the points I have made and work to improve these areas so that we can really make Ontario a safer place to live and work, instead of just having it appear so.
Bonita Poulin, Quadeville, Ont.
Canadian Coordinator, GLOBAL RECOGNITION CAMPAIGN
Multiple Chemical Sensitivity and other Chemically Induced Illnesses, Diseases & Injury affecting civilians and military personnel
More coordinators needed!
www.mcs-global.org
February 19, 2008
running interferance for the wcb again by not printing myletter about gas station attendents figures i bet this site answers to the director of wcb.
CIWA NOTE: I had the day off for Family Day - my apologies sir!
name : drywallrocker
CIWA NOTE: I had the day off for Family Day - my apologies sir!
name : drywallrocker
February 19, 2008
well raise your glass to another act of terrorizism commited against the workers of bc by the WCB. talking to my friend Rob About this new law about paying for your gas before you fill up he was bitching at this kid who was working on the full serve pump he asked if he could take money and the young fellow said they were not allowed to take money but he stated that they were not happy either.Guess why because all the people who worked full service were given their notice no more job thanks wcb.All because the employer will not tell their employee's that a tankfull of gas is not worth dying for and that they should only get the licsence number and report it to police because they won't do anything about it they are nothing but a bunch of donut eating tax collector's thanks to our crimnal's come first court system. I would name the gas station in coquitlam but these people will not print it anyways
name : drywallrocker
name : drywallrocker
February 19, 2008I was wondering has anyone managed to escape WSIB by starting a business and if so how did WSIB react? I am thinking that I may have no other option. I feel I would be safer doing something geared to my disability instead of doing what WSIB trained me for, considering the training crippled me right up. What would a job in that field do? I have been applying for the type of work they specify which is pretty well none existant where I live. The few interviews I have had seem to go well but as soon as they hear I have to use my own furniture they go on to the next applicant. Looking to escape WSIB.
February 19, 2008
re:class action,see,Johnson v wcb bc[attorney general]...yes it can be done,yes you may win,...just dont expect it to happen overnight,there are a lot of legal precedents happening right now and the "powers that be"[read perps] are scared shitless that they will "stuck with a huge bill".....and yes those are exclamation marks,...yers Rob.
February 19, 2008
Lost your email when my computer (disk ruptured). I am still in the bull fight with the clones at wsib.Have won a little only because of their errors in details.Everyone watch your details.when you recieve any information from the board expecialy doctors reports or MRI , xrays whatever make sure you get a copy from your doctor and staple them together and mark the differnces .The reports on my file from several mri's ct scans and exrays as well as doctors reports were just altered enough to make them seem like my injury was not to bad.Read the memos on your files there are quick hand written notes on mine they tried but failed to block that said the opposit of what they reported to me.
Any one who has been subjected to the type of tratment the fellow had from the quack doctor,get ahold of the complaints division of the board,tell them how very badly it has upset your family,that he shared your personel and private information with people you did not consent to,as well as anyone who may have overheard him.Say you would like the boards copy of his letter because you want to sue him!!!! This opens eyes send a copy of this letter by fax if you can to every head manager in the office,list them all at the top so one knows who all is getting this information.Send the last copy to the board member who actually accepted it and used it against you.If you send it by fax you get a receipt for every number you sent it to and they know it.Some of my information was shared with family members and it cost them.It was hush money not because of my injury but because they screwed up and everyone in the chain of commaned knew it.
If you google workers advocay in B.C there is a link to a big celebratin where they were paid bonuses for cutting back claims for the board.
The last disclosure I got was cd.Papoer is better but this is the third one I have recieved over the last 16 years.two were paper and I have kept them all and boy it pays to study and compare.They take simple phone conversations and use parts against you.when they ask how you are doing don't ever say fine thankyou.If you can record every phone call.I did and again man it got me fifty thousand hush money.
Check time lines.because you could not get into a specilist for three months and have no choice but to wait your file will indicate you reported no problems during this time.
When they have you in for a check up emidiatley go home go to the college of physicians and surgeons web site and do a search for the doctor.I have had 47 diferent MD or Doctors write medical opinions that stalled my claim some I never even saw only a couple had a medical degree and licsence.Adjudicatores have no medical training.
When they say to you at an evaluation rate your pain between one and ten don't make the same mistake as I did,being so used to pain I forgot that I was already and always around a five so given the travel and what ever they asked you to do of course it was higher.
Rember these clones are all programed to ask and say the same thing,they have no hearts only computer chips.You have to be very carefull in how you answer a question because they take only what they can use out of the answer.
I have recieved other peoples file pages too.The last disclousre I got they actually sent a dvd with a confrence cal;l with all of the heads from each province and some workers advocates all complaining how the system is not working.
I have had an excelant doctor who just retired but managed to get me into a specialist who is very good he said my back is a mess and sent me to another specialist who wants to operate as soon as they can he said the old mri amd ct scans prove that my lower disc's have disintergrated from having two and a half removed so I am on the waiting list for an operation.
When I got home I called to thank him for his last push to try to get me the help I needed.He laughed and said after the operation tell the doctors you have an accepted wcb claim as they are both WSIB consulting speacialists so ha ha how will the deny it then.
Sorry to rambel but I know the hurt and frustration you are all going through all accross Canada
Rob was an excellent help and inspiration to me to not give up and just keep on trying. For that I thank you my friend.
Harry
February 13, 2008
HERE'S THE EMAIL ADDRESS FOR ANYONE INTERESTED, OR WANTING FURTHER INFORMATION IN JOINING THE CLASS ACTION LAWSUIT AGAINST THE SASKATCHEWAN WCB:...
wcbclassaction@fastmail.fm
February 12, 2008
SASKATCHEWAN INJURED WORKERS COMPENSATION CLASS ACTION LAWSUIT; I sent an email to the advertisement on kijiji that was looking for injured workers who wanted to join in on the class action lawsuit, and it was explained to me that this is only for injured Saskatchewan Workers who have suffered a work injury and have had Saskatchewan WCB administer their injury claims. NO OTHER INJURED WORKERS FROM OUT SIDE OF SASKATCHEWAN CAN RESPOND: It was explained to me that, the class action lawsuit definition is going to be very narrow. One class action will be actioned in court for each VIOLATION OF THE INJURED WORKERS RIGHT. So as the previous writer stated it looks like there might be 20 or so class actions registered in court. I am joining the class action, under several of the remedy's that is available for injured workers. HOPEFULLY with all the class actions going at the same time, WCB will change their attitudes toward how they mistreat injured workers. EXPIDITED MEDICAL TESTS not in my lifetime. 30 months for MRI.....this system is all about abusing the injured worker..paying huge fees to everybody to avoid diagnosing the injury..and keeping the appeals process going so WCB Board members can get rich...what a fricken mess this WCB system is...Go figure Mister Politician, time for passing the buck is about to blow up in your face..Let's see how you operate at ARM'S LENGTH with this one.....
February 12, 2008
This is advise for anyone recently injured and getting ready to trust your case file or files to another party.
You will not be able to get another copy so I advise you to make sure you have a full complete copy to send. Keep your original copy in a safe place. I almost trusted my case files to someone I thought I could trust to find that they treated me as bad as WSIB. I was lucky I had heard of files being misplaced or pages missing. I kept my original. Be careful this is proof of your injury. WSIB may choose to ignore you but eventually enough case files in whole and in print are very hard to ignore!
name : iampms
name : iampms
February 11, 2008
Subject: FRONTLINE: a dangerous business revisited | PBS
Quite a story! http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/mcwane/
Quite a story! http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/mcwane/
February 11, 2008
Pardon me it was wednesday when my husband had his meeting, for his appeals.Called the lady at WSIB on wednesday not tuesday. Today is Monday and she is out of her office till tuesday Feb 12. How convenient. Play some more games is what they are good at.AND THIS WAS LAST WEEK.
February 11, 2008
finally received some more of my file: (I guess this is the way WCB prevents injured workers from getting treatment) I took this info to my doctor, he stated that he would immediately make an appointment with a neurosurgeon. I wonder what else they are hiding, so they can avoid helping an injured worker. Delay,Deny,Defend.
I recently also happened on a website blog: That is looking for injured workers to join a class action lawsuit; Here's the link:It appears that due to the complication of filing class actions, that more than one class action will be needed, for each violation against injured workers, what happens if there are 20 differient class action catergories,HHHHH-MMMMMMMM ! Interesting!!! http://regina.kijiji.ca/f-community-blogs-W0QQCatIdZ88
I recently also happened on a website blog: That is looking for injured workers to join a class action lawsuit; Here's the link:It appears that due to the complication of filing class actions, that more than one class action will be needed, for each violation against injured workers, what happens if there are 20 differient class action catergories,HHHHH-MMMMMMMM ! Interesting!!! http://regina.kijiji.ca/f-community-blogs-W0QQCatIdZ88
February 11, 2008
Iampms;
Sorry to hear about the grief coming in from WSIB; here are a few resources that may help you to understand and navigate the WSIB system a little better:
http://linda.injuredworkerssupport.googlepages.com/home
http://www.odiwg.com/
Hope this helps.
Sorry to hear about the grief coming in from WSIB; here are a few resources that may help you to understand and navigate the WSIB system a little better:
http://linda.injuredworkerssupport.googlepages.com/home
http://www.odiwg.com/
Hope this helps.
February 11, 2008
Hello everyone. My husband had his meeting with whats called a final can,t go no further this guy,makes a final decision on my husband what he was appealing. Quess what he had 3 appeals as I said before it was about wages, not even F____ing close to what this meeting was about.The guy said he could only comment on what was in front off him. Called the lady at WSIB (Tuesday) today is Saturday and still waiting for her call back. See so one hand does not know what the other hand is doing. Why do you think people in government are hired.I,ll sum it up pretty quick, there like politicans there hired to make a mess (not clean it up or help anyone but themselfs). So your tax dollars are a waste of everyones money and tyme. It,s like a circus were animals and there training us for the long haul. Seems to me thats all we are. A++HOLES that they are.
February 11, 2008
To the person with an NEL of 25%. i bet a lawyer will take your case with that %. my % is slightly lower, i too am getting no LOE even though i am partially disabled, and now my lawyer is fighting if for me and just taking 10% of what ever wcb gives me. if you do get a lawyer (or to anyone else) make sure they are specialized in workers comp injuries.
i also watched marketplace about the bank insurance. unbelievable!!! i wonder if that show would do a story about what we all go through with wcb and wsib???? has anyone tried contacting them about this BS we go through?
February 07, 2008
Anyone that has dealt with WSIB understands the frustrations and the over-whelming stress that WSIB inflicts on an already stressful and frightening situation.
They do not care! They have a pay check at the end of the week. If they have to work so does everyone else! The last adjudicator I spoke with told me in no uncertain terms that people can not expect to live off of WSIB, I can't afford to live on it! I had contacted him in hopes he could help me secure employment! Then I recieved notice he wanted a doctors report, ok, guess what I have a new adjudicator now it starts all over again. I'm going to write a book!
name : iampms
They do not care! They have a pay check at the end of the week. If they have to work so does everyone else! The last adjudicator I spoke with told me in no uncertain terms that people can not expect to live off of WSIB, I can't afford to live on it! I had contacted him in hopes he could help me secure employment! Then I recieved notice he wanted a doctors report, ok, guess what I have a new adjudicator now it starts all over again. I'm going to write a book!
name : iampms
February 07, 2008
RE: SASKATCHEWAN WORKER COMPENSATION ABUSE! Last night my wife took my son to the Doctor as he is sick. When they arrived at the medical walk-in clinic and realized that the physician on staff was the same physician who had submitted false reports to Sask WCB about me, (stated that I was trying to abuse the system for free money) even though I had 3 undiagnosed injuries, they left without treatment as they do not trust this so-called physician.
This physician stated to my son who is 14 years old that he will not see me because I am abusive..Okay so I suffered the misfortune of getting injured at work, then I suffered the misfortune of not having a family physician.
Then I suffered the misfortune of getting slandered by this useless QWACK physician who wrote libelous reports to WCB without doing a fricken test to diagnose my injury.
NOW MY FAMILY HAS TO PAY FOR ME GETTING INJURED! Just what the sam hell is going on in this system....I say no fricken more of this bullshit. My blood is boiling I am so MAD...My son had nothing to do with my accident, why is this physician stating to him that I am abusive. I was not abusive, after my injuries were half-assed diagnosed, and this prick physician realized he had ****ed up bigtime he then slanders me to my family.....What a prick..
This physician stated to my son who is 14 years old that he will not see me because I am abusive..Okay so I suffered the misfortune of getting injured at work, then I suffered the misfortune of not having a family physician.
Then I suffered the misfortune of getting slandered by this useless QWACK physician who wrote libelous reports to WCB without doing a fricken test to diagnose my injury.
NOW MY FAMILY HAS TO PAY FOR ME GETTING INJURED! Just what the sam hell is going on in this system....I say no fricken more of this bullshit. My blood is boiling I am so MAD...My son had nothing to do with my accident, why is this physician stating to him that I am abusive. I was not abusive, after my injuries were half-assed diagnosed, and this prick physician realized he had ****ed up bigtime he then slanders me to my family.....What a prick..
February 07, 2008
hello to every one in pain. I hurt myself at work in 92 and have had nothing but a battle with WSIB ever since. I have a worker at the office of the worker adviser, who never returns my calls,forgets parts of my file and seems to do more work for WSIB then for me. She went to a meeting with me to try and have my benefits re-enstated,but did very little to help me,she had less of my file then I did and on several occasions asked me more questions then the guy from WSIB.At the end of this meeting I asked the WSIB guy how long I would have to wait for his answer to my appeal and he told me about six weeks.I received my rejection about nine days later, so when you take into account the time Canada Post had this letter, you can see that this guy really did his job and reviewed my file and had his decision made in about three days. thanks for the effort and having your mind made up before I had my appeal Can you see my frustration.WSIB gave me a Nel of 25%,pay for my travel to see my pain speacialist,have told me I have a permanent impairment, but refuse to pay me any benefits.And my representative from the O.W.A. has the nerve to tell me to wait and not contact her until she hears anything further from WSIB and at that point she will contact me. HELP NOT DEALING WITH FRUSTRATION VERY WELL.
February 07, 2008
Hello everyone. Did anyone watch the Marketplace CBC. Wednesday night 8pm.If you have a mortgage with the TD bank and took insurance apparently if one was to die,it means nothing your screwed. Well I can see why WSIB has there noses into that bank( NO WONDER.) If you are with this bank I,d be checking into this. Go to Marketpplace CBC.ca.So sad what insurance companies are doing to people.
February 07, 2008
jan 31 don,t trust anyone don,t trust your doctor either they will sell you out because they fear the wcb.
name : drywallrocker
name : drywallrocker
February 07, 2008
Feel for those tired of doctors and WSIB, found out today there is evidence that supports my claim! Will they care? NOT! I am always looking for work and get excited when an interview goes well, but still unemployed and living on next to nothing. I asked my MD if I should just say screw it and was told not to let them off the hook. I do not need anymore stress from WSIB. I just recieved a letter threatening what little benefits I have and that my adjudicator with no longer help me! I got lost in his flawless filing system because he has been absolutly no help to me what so ever. 4 YEARS of BULL CRAP and STILL COUNTING.
name : iampms
name : iampms
February 07, 2008
RE:To Bruce: Got some ideas for you, please put up your web address. Thanks! :OKAY here it is.....junknjunk@sasktel.net
February 05, 2008
Hi friends
This is a project I have been active on for a couple of months now and have sent letters to the non interested parties in search for justice for injured workers.
I would appreciate if you could forward this to your entire mailing lists to union or non union people. We are all the same just trying to survive the best we know how and don't need the suppression bestowed on us by WSIB. I welcome emails from you and all your friends with horror stories of WSIB treatment.
Thanks in advance for your support, Denis Landry
CIWA Note: If you are interested in receiving a copy of these documents, they are available by email from: Denis Landry
CIWA or Gerry Landry
This is a project I have been active on for a couple of months now and have sent letters to the non interested parties in search for justice for injured workers.
I would appreciate if you could forward this to your entire mailing lists to union or non union people. We are all the same just trying to survive the best we know how and don't need the suppression bestowed on us by WSIB. I welcome emails from you and all your friends with horror stories of WSIB treatment.
Thanks in advance for your support, Denis Landry
CIWA Note: If you are interested in receiving a copy of these documents, they are available by email from: Denis Landry
CIWA or Gerry Landry
February 05, 2008
Bruce
I received someone else's wcb information too! And apparently my information was also sent to someone else!
How sad is that!!!?? Wcb and wsib are terrible as it is, but now they are sending our private and confidential information to strangers as well!? I wonder how many people they have done this to.
I received someone else's wcb information too! And apparently my information was also sent to someone else!
How sad is that!!!?? Wcb and wsib are terrible as it is, but now they are sending our private and confidential information to strangers as well!? I wonder how many people they have done this to.
February 05, 2008
To: Angela Macdougall in Saskatchewan, I just received your file information with my file update, this weekend.
Maybe you should give Saskatchewan WCB a call to see why they are sending me parts of your file. I have contacted them advising of their error.
Bruce
Maybe you should give Saskatchewan WCB a call to see why they are sending me parts of your file. I have contacted them advising of their error.
Bruce
February 04, 2008
Anyone interested in taking part in picketing, and peaceful but LOUD demonstation: To alert Saskatchewan Citizens, Employers, Government of the ways that Workers Compensation really works in Saskatchewan, please send a email to arrange a date and time. Saskatoon and Regina
saskatchewaninjuredworkers@yahoo.ca
February 04, 2008
My husband has a meeting this Wednesday its a final last meeting cannot go any further for his wages.In other words Wsib screwed him out of his wages years ago. Anyone ever been this far in challenging them. I,m sure they already have found a way to screw him. No doubt in my mind, but I have to also think positive. He is not backing down from them. They say he owes them money and he basically,is waiting for them to take him to court. Anyone similar situation. Thanxs Also my husband is not on Wsib (THANK GOD) cause we be living in a BFI box.
January 31, 2008
A year ago I was reading this site, and I thought that it could never happen to me. There was no way wcb would cut me off. I have a very serious injury and they were being so nice to me.
Today I am cut off. It's unbelievable! It all happened very fast! Never ever trust a wcb employee EVER!!!! Also don't ever trust employees at work hardening programs and don't give them anything to work with. Don't tell them anything about your personal life or your family. If wcb or wsib funded the program and suggested it, do not trust the people involved no matter how nice they seem at first. They are just as evil as wcb employees. If your doctor recommended it, then I would trust it, but never trust anything recommended by wcb or your work place.
When you give wcb an update on those forms regarding your symptoms, give them your symptoms in full detail. Also, don't trust your work place if you are seriously injured and probably won't be returning to work any time soon. They can be just as evil, or maybe worse then wcb is. I am disabled for life due to this injury, very young, I can't work and they do not care. Thankfully I listened to injured workers on this site that have gone through this BS and I have kept everything for evidence and I now have a lawyer and a strong case. Newly injured workers, please please listen to our advice!
Today I am cut off. It's unbelievable! It all happened very fast! Never ever trust a wcb employee EVER!!!! Also don't ever trust employees at work hardening programs and don't give them anything to work with. Don't tell them anything about your personal life or your family. If wcb or wsib funded the program and suggested it, do not trust the people involved no matter how nice they seem at first. They are just as evil as wcb employees. If your doctor recommended it, then I would trust it, but never trust anything recommended by wcb or your work place.
When you give wcb an update on those forms regarding your symptoms, give them your symptoms in full detail. Also, don't trust your work place if you are seriously injured and probably won't be returning to work any time soon. They can be just as evil, or maybe worse then wcb is. I am disabled for life due to this injury, very young, I can't work and they do not care. Thankfully I listened to injured workers on this site that have gone through this BS and I have kept everything for evidence and I now have a lawyer and a strong case. Newly injured workers, please please listen to our advice!
January 30, 2008
re"it will happen to all of us"....yes indeed!..."it" ahem,....will surely happen,I know its very hard for the newly injured,especialy those with serious injuries,to accept that wcb,s Canada wide are such seriously criminal orginizations,we all want to have at least some faith,at least at first,...but as the previous poster has said,...take some advice from those who have been there,done that,[not quite a quote but the message is the same]...YOU!....and yes we mean you....are to have no faith whatsoever in any wcb employee, regardless of past actions,...NONE!,...these creatures will"lie,cheat,steal,....MURDER IF THEY THINK THEY CAN GET AWAY WITH IT!",...
and rest assured until recently that is exactly what was happening.....THEY WERE "GETTING AWAY WITH IT"!....yes its a scary situation,yes you are vulnerable,yes they WILL ATTACK YOUR FAMILY FIRST!,...best you know this,...its for your own and your kids and wife,s protection we are saying these things,.....I am going to say this again and again until every one gets the message,...use Dr R Hare,s 20 pt psychopathology checklist,...
the previous posters experience with the guy with the beady eye,s,...this is the first flag,...if such actions make your psychological antenae,s twitch,...pay attention,...I would have chopped that meeting short,and would make them understand exactly why...yes,these psychopaths will get very angry[another flag]...but my creedo at this time is this,....DO THE CRIME???..DO THE TIME!,...and dont come whining at us when you get tagged with the gang laws and dissapear into the super max prisons where you belong,....we dont want to hear it!,....but really,...watch the eye,s...psychopaths have the "thousand yard stare"...they are "not there"...at the time,...they are off in their own private world,....re" dr Hares list,...use it!,...score,s 3 to 5,...be very wary,5 to 10,take serious precautions,10 to 15,..be scared,very scared!,...15 to 20[and I know a bunch of these,all work for wcb bc]...be very very scared,take action right away,inform the rcmp...again...right away!,...in fact anyone scoring more than ten??....do the former,again...right away,dont wait for him/her to screw you over some more,...get these creature,s out of your medical care,and out of your life,...be assertive,not agressive...but just do it!,....if I can do this,so can you,..I aint no oracle...as the law stands at this time,its your right as a Canadian to do these things,its your right to decide who gets in to your medical world and more important,...WHO DOES NOT!,...by asserting your rights as a CANADIAN,you bring some serious laws into play,and I can assure you all,...THE CONSEQUENCES OF BREAKING THESE LAWS IS VERY,VERY,SEVERE!,...Millions of Canadians have died so we the living can have these rights,...DO NOT! GIVE THEM AWAY TO SOME INCOMPETANT BOOB WITH NO CREDENTIALS WHATSEVER!,...i CALL THEM sib,s[some incompetant boob]...ask them for credentials,no credentials?or the wrong ones?,...NO "OPINION".....PERIOD!,...and yes,no means no...its a monosylable,no further explanation is required,...and it would not hurt to remind these creature,s,....RESPONSIBILITY IS MORE THAN JUST A WORD!....ala the Gomery "enquiry"...ahem...remember this:you are dealing with a criminal orginization that has had 100 years[almost] to perfect their crimes,and so what if they have written "rules" that seem to absolve them of their responsibility,...as the case:Authorson V Canada[attorney general]docket #C41232 Ontario, clearly states,...even the federal goverment does not have any right to over ride the CHARTER.....and this is the case where the feds were stealing from Vets of all wars,delaying until the litigant dies, ...and most of all...STEALING THEIR FUNDS!,...the court found for the veterans to the tune of 4.6 BILLION $$$$$$$......well done CANADA!....its about bloody time!....this case is dated july 4,2007,...and think about this,....if these disgusting creatures are willing to steal from those who have laid their life on the line for all of us?...what are they doing to you???....hmmmm????,...food for thought.indeed!....yers from the best coast of Canada[also home to the biggest gang related criminal orginization in this great land],wcb,aka worksafe bc aka,LE CLUBBE DE PSYCHO,...Rob.ps,also check out "BLATENT ERROR",...yers R.
name : r.c.lawson @shaw.ca
and rest assured until recently that is exactly what was happening.....THEY WERE "GETTING AWAY WITH IT"!....yes its a scary situation,yes you are vulnerable,yes they WILL ATTACK YOUR FAMILY FIRST!,...best you know this,...its for your own and your kids and wife,s protection we are saying these things,.....I am going to say this again and again until every one gets the message,...use Dr R Hare,s 20 pt psychopathology checklist,...
the previous posters experience with the guy with the beady eye,s,...this is the first flag,...if such actions make your psychological antenae,s twitch,...pay attention,...I would have chopped that meeting short,and would make them understand exactly why...yes,these psychopaths will get very angry[another flag]...but my creedo at this time is this,....DO THE CRIME???..DO THE TIME!,...and dont come whining at us when you get tagged with the gang laws and dissapear into the super max prisons where you belong,....we dont want to hear it!,....but really,...watch the eye,s...psychopaths have the "thousand yard stare"...they are "not there"...at the time,...they are off in their own private world,....re" dr Hares list,...use it!,...score,s 3 to 5,...be very wary,5 to 10,take serious precautions,10 to 15,..be scared,very scared!,...15 to 20[and I know a bunch of these,all work for wcb bc]...be very very scared,take action right away,inform the rcmp...again...right away!,...in fact anyone scoring more than ten??....do the former,again...right away,dont wait for him/her to screw you over some more,...get these creature,s out of your medical care,and out of your life,...be assertive,not agressive...but just do it!,....if I can do this,so can you,..I aint no oracle...as the law stands at this time,its your right as a Canadian to do these things,its your right to decide who gets in to your medical world and more important,...WHO DOES NOT!,...by asserting your rights as a CANADIAN,you bring some serious laws into play,and I can assure you all,...THE CONSEQUENCES OF BREAKING THESE LAWS IS VERY,VERY,SEVERE!,...Millions of Canadians have died so we the living can have these rights,...DO NOT! GIVE THEM AWAY TO SOME INCOMPETANT BOOB WITH NO CREDENTIALS WHATSEVER!,...i CALL THEM sib,s[some incompetant boob]...ask them for credentials,no credentials?or the wrong ones?,...NO "OPINION".....PERIOD!,...and yes,no means no...its a monosylable,no further explanation is required,...and it would not hurt to remind these creature,s,....RESPONSIBILITY IS MORE THAN JUST A WORD!....ala the Gomery "enquiry"...ahem...remember this:you are dealing with a criminal orginization that has had 100 years[almost] to perfect their crimes,and so what if they have written "rules" that seem to absolve them of their responsibility,...as the case:Authorson V Canada[attorney general]docket #C41232 Ontario, clearly states,...even the federal goverment does not have any right to over ride the CHARTER.....and this is the case where the feds were stealing from Vets of all wars,delaying until the litigant dies, ...and most of all...STEALING THEIR FUNDS!,...the court found for the veterans to the tune of 4.6 BILLION $$$$$$$......well done CANADA!....its about bloody time!....this case is dated july 4,2007,...and think about this,....if these disgusting creatures are willing to steal from those who have laid their life on the line for all of us?...what are they doing to you???....hmmmm????,...food for thought.indeed!....yers from the best coast of Canada[also home to the biggest gang related criminal orginization in this great land],wcb,aka worksafe bc aka,LE CLUBBE DE PSYCHO,...Rob.ps,also check out "BLATENT ERROR",...yers R.
name : r.c.lawson @shaw.ca
January 30, 2008
To: can not be "mentally prepared for the evil that awaits" I totally agree with that statement. I can't believe the sick, heartless and disgusting people who work for wcb! A year ago they were friendly and nice, but today I am cut off everything yet they still say I am partially disabled! How does that make any sense????
My suggestion for everyone who is still in the early stages with your claim, keep every single piece of evidence, get a lawyer right away, tape every conversation, keep every letter, write your symptoms down every single day, write everything on the calendar and build your case today. Ask for a copy of your wcb file and then get the files from your doctors! Guarantee that there will be information missing from your wcb file!!!! If they have surveillance video on you, do not say anything without a lawyer present. Say as little as possible, and ask for a copy of everything. If a stranger approaches you on the street and asks you questions about your injury, don't tell them anything (could be a private investigator...it happened to me) Record your phone conversations as well and be cautious of suspicious phone calls where people ask your name because it is probably a private investigator checking to see if you are home. Don't give information to co-workers either. It's amazing what people will do for money. Be careful with leaving a paper trail. Wcb will twist every thing and anything they can. Don't give them anything to work with. Also, go to a psychologist if you can. It will not only help you with your pain and stress, but it will also help build a case for you. Good luck to all IW's! Build a case, because they are. Don't wait 'till it's too late.
Learn from us IW's that have already gone through it and are going through it because it will happen to all of us. We need to beat the system and keep fighting! Don't let them win!
name : Young and disabled for life due to workplace injury
My suggestion for everyone who is still in the early stages with your claim, keep every single piece of evidence, get a lawyer right away, tape every conversation, keep every letter, write your symptoms down every single day, write everything on the calendar and build your case today. Ask for a copy of your wcb file and then get the files from your doctors! Guarantee that there will be information missing from your wcb file!!!! If they have surveillance video on you, do not say anything without a lawyer present. Say as little as possible, and ask for a copy of everything. If a stranger approaches you on the street and asks you questions about your injury, don't tell them anything (could be a private investigator...it happened to me) Record your phone conversations as well and be cautious of suspicious phone calls where people ask your name because it is probably a private investigator checking to see if you are home. Don't give information to co-workers either. It's amazing what people will do for money. Be careful with leaving a paper trail. Wcb will twist every thing and anything they can. Don't give them anything to work with. Also, go to a psychologist if you can. It will not only help you with your pain and stress, but it will also help build a case for you. Good luck to all IW's! Build a case, because they are. Don't wait 'till it's too late.
Learn from us IW's that have already gone through it and are going through it because it will happen to all of us. We need to beat the system and keep fighting! Don't let them win!
name : Young and disabled for life due to workplace injury
January 29, 2008
I applied for the sask wcb "board level appeal"(lawyers idea not mine) Make sure you have at least one witness and one taperecorder at the inquisition. At my "TRIAL" I was told to "SHUT MY MOUTH I WAS THERE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS NOT TO ASK QUESTIONS" There were three of them two tried to bully me while this peculiar looking runt sat at the end of a large conference table with his chin on his thumbs, eyes moving from "THEM" to me. He later turned out to be one of the sickest human beings you would never want to encounter. The leader has recently being given a cushy position with the "BRICK" Wall sask government. If I had it to do over again I seriously believe that I would be looking for a tall building.If you have to go then at least take your "REAL" file. The way its set up is they tie your hands knock you around and ask you to throw a punch.I can tell you you will not be mentally prepaired for the evil that awaits. SASK WCB SHOULDER AND SPINE EXPERIMENT
January 29, 2008
Saskatchewan: Board Members Appeal. Submitted Last Week.
Does anybody have any Idea how long it will take to get a decision, DENIAL? OR ACCEPTANCE? Please reply asap?
January 28, 2008
sooo,b.ustard c.riminal wcb is advertising again! for employee,s,every time this happens we get more facts,..."rewarding careers"...yeah..."rewarding" all right,...on the right of this half page add is a row of so called "awards" won by these creatures,..."psychologicaly healthy workplace awards",.....tops the list!...under that, bc,s top 40 employers,...2008,....here we are in the first month of this year and already these nutbars have "won" awards????....psychologicaly healthy???...say what?..."healthy" only if you are one of the statisticaly rare compensated psychopaths/sociopath!,[not rare at all at wcb bc 90 percent!...woo hoo}...another statement,..."gaining ground...for worker safety"....gaining ground??....is that why loggers and construction workers are dying like flies??...especialy the loggers/fallers/drivers....sure ...office safety is part of the stats,...in the high risk categories the stats prove wcb is not only not doing its job,but is lieing....AGAIN!!!...about the stats,...or is it still???...whatever! more smoke and mirrors!!!,...message to prospective employee,s,...due to me,...wcb bc is now screened for psychopathic behaviour,every one of them!....if you want a job you can be proud of and tell your kids you are a part of the solution,....DONT GO TO WORK FOR THESE PEOPLE!,...at least until we are done "cleaning house".....yeah they "need" new people,...wonder why???.....because we have had hundreds of their "employee,s"[read hired killers] arrested and charged,hundreds more are under investigation for fraud,collusion,conspiracy to defraud,breach of trust/faith,attempted murder by mountie,harrassment,threats,[criminal and otherwise],...and at this time the list goes on and on,and on and on,...bc is by far the worst place in this great country to be an injured working canadian,...its far more dangerous to be injured than it is to be a faller,one of the very high risk proffesions,...we dont call this criminal corruption corperation..."LE CLUBBE DE PSYCHO"...for nothing!,....oh,and here,s a wee nugget of info,...all those who have "left" wcb bc recently have all reiceved BONUS,ES,...for past deeds of darkness,.A money trail!,well done! we needed that!..message for "worksafe bc" formerly wcb bc,aka "le clubbe de psycho"....ITS NOT GOING TO WORK!...WE WILL NOT STOP UNTILL ALL OF YOU ARE IN JAIL WHERE YOU BELONG!...WITH THE BABY KILLERS AND SKIN CRIMINALS,...AGAIN...WHERE YOU BELONG!,...crazy psycho,nutbars that you are!,...we are coming for you!!!,...yers Rob.ps,good lucky telling willies to the rcmp,thatsa gonna work,....NOT!!!....HA HA HA,...morons!...predictable morons,they will always go for it,..every time,...usefull when we need evidence,very usefull,...ha ha,...
name : r.c.lawson
@shaw.ca
January 28, 2008
I applied for CPP(D) a year ago April, then I was turned down in July/07. I asked for a reconsideration and submitted new medical documentation (proof of prolonged & severe). I called CPP around the start of Dec/07 and was told my CPP claim had been put on hold until CPP(D) received information from WSIB. I asked what information they were waiting for specifically, and was told by whoever I was talking to they did not know.
During the month of Dec I attended an LMR assessment and I was deemed not employable because of my physical and psychological disabilities related to my original workplace injury. The LMR provider submitted a report stating this and I later received a call from my adjudicator stating I would not be provided an LMR for cost effective reasons coupled along with lack of my physical abilities and my age. I was told that my LOE would be extended until I reach age 65 or get employment.
The Dr (psychologist) that did the Re-vocational assesment on me stated in his report (sic) "if I was provided with treatment for clinical depression and chronic pain, I would then be a good candidate for a college program teaching me either to become a drug addiction counsellor or a para-legal". This was not mentioned in the WSIB decision. Instead the WSIB focused on my NEL whole body impairment of 18%, then told the CPP(D)(sic) with such a small percentage of "Disability" it was their impression that I should be able to do some sort of employment.
The WSIB indicated Impairment = Disability and were the same. My Dr's and functional abilitiy evaluator know that not to be true. My total "Disability" was rated at 65% because of my impairment and on going psychological problems. Since CPP(D) received this biased report that favors a CPP(D) denial by questioning the severity and prolongedness of my condition, I now must secure a representitive to appeal the CPP(D) decision.
I'm almost positive (according to my rep) I will get my CPP(D) but it just turns my stomach at how low down and dirty the WSIB can be. One of the big problems I found out yesterday from my Dr is, my CPP(D) claim is for two conditions, one WSIB and the other not. The noncompensable injury is rated by my MD's to be in the neighborhood of about a 25% impairment rating. That would mean the WSIB would have to apportion my CPP(D) between the two injuries, thereby not being able to off set my LOE by 100% of my CPP(D)benefits.
That would mean I would receive a portion of my CPP(D) which would put me above what the WSIB has 'DEEMED' I receive in weekly benefits. I have jumped through the WSIB hoops, but it still doesn't end. It would seem the WSIB #1 mandate is to keep all claiments with permanent disability resulting from a workplace injury, in poverty no matter what tactics they must use to achieve that mandate. I am so sad that I have found out what many of my disabled predessors have gone through before me, but I will fight back.
During the month of Dec I attended an LMR assessment and I was deemed not employable because of my physical and psychological disabilities related to my original workplace injury. The LMR provider submitted a report stating this and I later received a call from my adjudicator stating I would not be provided an LMR for cost effective reasons coupled along with lack of my physical abilities and my age. I was told that my LOE would be extended until I reach age 65 or get employment.
The Dr (psychologist) that did the Re-vocational assesment on me stated in his report (sic) "if I was provided with treatment for clinical depression and chronic pain, I would then be a good candidate for a college program teaching me either to become a drug addiction counsellor or a para-legal". This was not mentioned in the WSIB decision. Instead the WSIB focused on my NEL whole body impairment of 18%, then told the CPP(D)(sic) with such a small percentage of "Disability" it was their impression that I should be able to do some sort of employment.
The WSIB indicated Impairment = Disability and were the same. My Dr's and functional abilitiy evaluator know that not to be true. My total "Disability" was rated at 65% because of my impairment and on going psychological problems. Since CPP(D) received this biased report that favors a CPP(D) denial by questioning the severity and prolongedness of my condition, I now must secure a representitive to appeal the CPP(D) decision.
I'm almost positive (according to my rep) I will get my CPP(D) but it just turns my stomach at how low down and dirty the WSIB can be. One of the big problems I found out yesterday from my Dr is, my CPP(D) claim is for two conditions, one WSIB and the other not. The noncompensable injury is rated by my MD's to be in the neighborhood of about a 25% impairment rating. That would mean the WSIB would have to apportion my CPP(D) between the two injuries, thereby not being able to off set my LOE by 100% of my CPP(D)benefits.
That would mean I would receive a portion of my CPP(D) which would put me above what the WSIB has 'DEEMED' I receive in weekly benefits. I have jumped through the WSIB hoops, but it still doesn't end. It would seem the WSIB #1 mandate is to keep all claiments with permanent disability resulting from a workplace injury, in poverty no matter what tactics they must use to achieve that mandate. I am so sad that I have found out what many of my disabled predessors have gone through before me, but I will fight back.
January 24, 2008
Bruce,
Wow! 50 doctors. I take my advice back as you obviously have gone to many. I'm not sure how to help you, but I wanted to tell you that I am sorry you are going through so much BS.
I too am going through A LOT of BS with WCB. I am cut off everything for no reason. I finally decided to get a lawyer to help me, but I don't know if that will help you or not.
All I know is that all of us IW's can never ever give up the fight. The whole system is BS and it's a shame this can even happen in Canada. We can't let them get to us. I am a full believer that pain is 50% physical and 50% psychological. When I get stressed, my pain increases drastically right away.
Even though we are going through BS, try to stay strong. Keep on fighting. Be thankful for all the good things in life no matter how small. I am permanently disabled for life. I watch people zoom past me every day and most days it's frustrating that I can't walk as fast, but other days I am thankful I move slower because I notice the smaller things in life now. I see more and rely on my other senses more which makes me appreciate things more. There are always positives in every negative. I appreciate the people I still have in my life more now too (I'm sure we all know who are true friends are now after our injuries. It's amazing how many people disappear) Bruce, as hard as it is, try not to live angry. Continue fighting, but don't let workers comp get to you. That's what they want. I am angry too. VERY angry. It makes me loose sleep and it increases my pain and I can never stop thinking about it. I just hope that one day all of IW's can win this disgusting battle we have with WCB and WSIB. If I can think of any solution to help you, I will write again.
Good luck Bruce! We are all here for you on this site. I hope you find some answers that will help you.
Another Frustrated IW cut off LOE
Wow! 50 doctors. I take my advice back as you obviously have gone to many. I'm not sure how to help you, but I wanted to tell you that I am sorry you are going through so much BS.
I too am going through A LOT of BS with WCB. I am cut off everything for no reason. I finally decided to get a lawyer to help me, but I don't know if that will help you or not.
All I know is that all of us IW's can never ever give up the fight. The whole system is BS and it's a shame this can even happen in Canada. We can't let them get to us. I am a full believer that pain is 50% physical and 50% psychological. When I get stressed, my pain increases drastically right away.
Even though we are going through BS, try to stay strong. Keep on fighting. Be thankful for all the good things in life no matter how small. I am permanently disabled for life. I watch people zoom past me every day and most days it's frustrating that I can't walk as fast, but other days I am thankful I move slower because I notice the smaller things in life now. I see more and rely on my other senses more which makes me appreciate things more. There are always positives in every negative. I appreciate the people I still have in my life more now too (I'm sure we all know who are true friends are now after our injuries. It's amazing how many people disappear) Bruce, as hard as it is, try not to live angry. Continue fighting, but don't let workers comp get to you. That's what they want. I am angry too. VERY angry. It makes me loose sleep and it increases my pain and I can never stop thinking about it. I just hope that one day all of IW's can win this disgusting battle we have with WCB and WSIB. If I can think of any solution to help you, I will write again.
Good luck Bruce! We are all here for you on this site. I hope you find some answers that will help you.
Another Frustrated IW cut off LOE
January 23, 2008
RE: KEEP GOING TO DOCTORS, 50 Doctors and counting, Saskatchewan Workers Compensation; For crying out loud, Why should I have to keep going to different Doctors; I'm tired of getting kicked around like a football:
I have explained to Doctors and Specialists my symptoms, but nothing gets accomplished: Physician # 28 finally diagnosed my spinal injury; I thought I was finally on track to getting help, the next appointment was with a neurosurgeon, and he made 10 recommendations for my rehabilitation. Saskatchewan WCB gave me F/ALL; they fraudulently denied me any of the recommendations-(they told me at this point I needed to find a new Doctor and my case manager even suggested what medications I should be taking, all this with no medical degree) Doctor # 43 diagnosed the injury that the neurosurgeon suspected: Saskatchewan WCB has stated that this is not a work injury-(IT IS SO) it happened at work but my employer wouldn't file a report.
Early in my injury I was sent for assessment by the HIGHLY PAID WCB TEAM, ($2000) I begged and pleaded for a MRI to diagnose my injury, I suggested, (when you are driving your car, and it isn't running right, and you take it to a mechanic does he say don't worry just keep driving, it' will get better.(STUPIDITY) or does he do some diagnostic tests) these highly paid WCB HACK DOCTORS wouldn't listen and again just returned me to work undiagnosed (with a spinal injury)where again I suffered further injury. After all this bullshit, and all the needless suffering they have caused me, I was sent to a WCB psychologist, after $1000's of treatment's and a $500 personality test designed to prove I was faking, the test proved that I wasn't faking injury so the psychologist wrote lies in my file that state that I threatned to cause harm to other people. WHAT A CROCK OF BULLSH*T.
At every turn in the road, SASKATCHEWAN WCB has purposely placed blatant lies in my file to discredit my injuries and have written to my treating physicians to create a bias to prevent me from getting support HELP. When I finally received a copy of my file, SASKATCHEWAN WCB purposely left out parts of my file that would support my injury. My case manager at WCB has spewed lies about me, and about conversations that have taken place. I have asked for file information, but am being DENIED my rights under section 171.1 and 172 of the WCB ACT. How can I file appeal when I don't have al